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kbastro
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Best grease possible for a mount
      #5497039 - 10/30/12 10:51 PM

any recommendations on a good grease for the re-do of greasing a mount?

I am looking for something that can handle +30C/86F to -10C/14F?

what is better lithium (white) or teflon based like duralube?

Kev b


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Midnight Dan
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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: kbastro]
      #5497049 - 10/30/12 10:57 PM

Superlube.

-Dan


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: Midnight Dan]
      #5497050 - 10/30/12 10:59 PM

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Superlube.
Yep...

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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: kbastro]
      #5497067 - 10/30/12 11:20 PM

Another Superlube

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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: FaronD]
      #5497114 - 10/31/12 12:13 AM

I used superlube on the sliding (plane) bearings on my AP600 and it was too sticky.

AP and Bisque both recommend lubri-plate 105. since I couldn't find that i used white lithium grease. which is not recommended, but it certainly performs better than superlube for me.

the ball bearings on my CGEM though i use superlube.


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: orlyandico]
      #5497417 - 10/31/12 08:32 AM

I used SuperLube on my iEQ45 and didn't see any problems. I reduced my PE so assuming it at least didn't hinder things Rated temperature range from -40F to +450F.

Wow, looked up lubri-plate on Amazon. Not cheap, worth the price?
http://www.amazon.com/Lubriplate-C105-03492-293-L0034-092...

Edited by Phillip Easton (10/31/12 08:33 AM)


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: Phillip Easton]
      #5497426 - 10/31/12 08:42 AM

Er..Phil...that's the price for 12 tubes. So, about 5-6 bucks a tube?

Paul


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: Astronewb]
      #5497430 - 10/31/12 08:47 AM

all of the China mounts I've seen use ball bearings on both of the axes.

while my AP600 and my old Vixen GP both used plane bearings, which don't have balls or rollers. I guess a less charitable word for these would be "bushings" or "sleeve bearings."

i suspect these sleeve-type bearings aren't too amenable to thicker lubricants, hence my lack of success with superlube.


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: Astronewb]
      #5497433 - 10/31/12 08:50 AM

I use Lubriplate No.105 for my Paramount ME.

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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: Astronewb]
      #5497514 - 10/31/12 09:59 AM

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Er..Phil...that's the price for 12 tubes. So, about 5-6 bucks a tube?

Paul




LOL Thanks Paul, guess I shouldn't be so quick to reply.

Cheers!


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: Phillip Easton]
      #5497566 - 10/31/12 10:47 AM

SuperLube.

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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: kbastro]
      #5497614 - 10/31/12 11:23 AM

For ball bearings "Superlube"
For Bushings (metal to metal surfaces sliding against each other)"Lubriplate No.105"


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: Midnight Dan]
      #5497635 - 10/31/12 11:42 AM

Quote:

Superlube.

-Dan






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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: TxStars]
      #5497789 - 10/31/12 01:35 PM

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For ball bearings "Superlube"
For Bushings (metal to metal surfaces sliding against each other)"Lubriplate No.105"




What about for gear surfaces? Lubriplate 105 is marketed as an "engine assembly" lubricant, and they sell other lubricants that are targeted at gears. Would one of them be better?

-Dan


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: Midnight Dan]
      #5498288 - 10/31/12 07:08 PM

it seems that superlube is a good choice,,,, the part I was talking about re-lubing is the worm and gear assembly,,, not the whole mount!!

Kevin b


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: kbastro]
      #5498336 - 10/31/12 07:36 PM

I use SuperLube for HyperTuning and have no problems with it at all, hot or cold, wet or dry. But it must be used sparingly. A very thin coat is all that is needed. Like most grease, too much is not a good thing, especially for slow moving parts like these. It's not an automobile, so you don't grease it like one.

Locally, Superlube is often available at Harbor Frieght and sometimes at Ace Hardware. Otherwise it is easily available on line. A 3 oz. tube is enough for many mounts. You can actually get by with a 1/2 oz. tube just fine.


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: EFT]
      #5498380 - 10/31/12 08:07 PM

Oh and superlube is food safe. Smells pleasant too. I expect that means you can chomp on it without dying.

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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: Midnight Dan]
      #5498478 - 10/31/12 09:16 PM

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What about for gear surfaces? Lubriplate 105 is marketed as an "engine assembly" lubricant, and they sell other lubricants that are targeted at gears. Would one of them be better?

-Dan




The Lubriplate No.105 works good for gears that are low speed (under 100 rpm) low heat (under 200deg).


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: TxStars]
      #5498508 - 10/31/12 09:42 PM

Probably going to get flamed for this but their is more rubbish talked about mount grease than just about any other thing,I worked as an industrial mechanic for years and also on cars, aircraft etc, any good quality light grease will be fine, the secret is to use it sparingly not slap it about willy nilly and stuff the whole tube into the mount then wonder why its running all over the place in hotter weather.One place I worked for had a large number of pick and place assembly robots running at high speed, using a steel worm and bronze worm wheel, they got checked maybe once a year and a dab of grease on the worm was enough to keep them in good shape and running sweet, again use sparingly, grease everywhere just attracts dirt and dust,DA.

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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: Binojunky]
      #5498569 - 10/31/12 10:14 PM

Different opionions and experiences is what makes this forum so good. Tech info for Astronomy based on real world experience.

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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: johntrob]
      #5498637 - 10/31/12 10:53 PM

Harbor Freight carries Super Lube for $5 a tube.
That's what I used on my LXD-55.


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: orlyandico]
      #5498679 - 10/31/12 11:23 PM

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Oh and superlube is food safe. Smells pleasant too. I expect that means you can chomp on it without dying.




The fact that I am always getting it all over my hands makes this a plus for me.


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: Binojunky]
      #5498686 - 10/31/12 11:25 PM

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Probably going to get flamed for this but their is more rubbish talked about mount grease than just about any other thing,I worked as an industrial mechanic for years and also on cars, aircraft etc, any good quality light grease will be fine, the secret is to use it sparingly not slap it about willy nilly and stuff the whole tube into the mount then wonder why its running all over the place in hotter weather.One place I worked for had a large number of pick and place assembly robots running at high speed, using a steel worm and bronze worm wheel, they got checked maybe once a year and a dab of grease on the worm was enough to keep them in good shape and running sweet, again use sparingly, grease everywhere just attracts dirt and dust,DA.




My point exactly. Some greases may be better than others, but any grease overused is no good. I've seen it done and cleaned it and the dirt out of pleanty of mounts. The only stuff I really hate to see in mounts is white lithium. OK at first but like clay later on.


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: EFT]
      #5498755 - 11/01/12 12:06 AM

Another lube I use for worms is Magic Lube. It is used in pool pumps where the ceramic bearing is contacting the pump housing. It is mostly silicone. Vixen recommends a "gel-type silicone" for their worm assemblies. Me? I use Superlube for bearings and the Magic Lube for the worm. Both are synthetic and remain soft in cold weather, but don't run in warm weather. One tube of Superlube will last a lifetime.

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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: Ranger Tim]
      #5498769 - 11/01/12 12:14 AM

I use Slick-50 grease, works well, cost is marginal but comes in a regular lube gun tube. Losmandy recomended this grease and I have used it on every mount for years. It sticks to the part, does not separate or run.
Blueman


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: orlyandico]
      #5499212 - 11/01/12 11:07 AM

Quote:

all of the China mounts I've seen use ball bearings on both of the axes.

while my AP600 and my old Vixen GP both used plane bearings, which don't have balls or rollers. I guess a less charitable word for these would be "bushings" or "sleeve bearings."

i suspect these sleeve-type bearings aren't too amenable to thicker lubricants, hence my lack of success with superlube.




A very tight fit on metal bushings like those could be more problematic with a thicker grease.


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Re: Best grease possible for a mount new [Re: EFT]
      #5499822 - 11/01/12 07:54 PM

The Superlube seems to get the most thumbs up, have to be fair years back I had a car that went through wheel bearings,used Superlube and it solved the problem,my local auto store has toothpaste sized tubes for about $5, looks like it would be good stuff for fishing reels etc,as Ed stated stay clear of the white lithium, its ok for around the home but will degrade over time.DA.

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