Kiwi Nick
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
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#5519756 - 11/14/12 04:08 PM
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Hahahhaha excellent post Golgo.
Compared to monster reflectors, even the most lovely 6 inch refractor is but a toy. A nice toy for sure but still a pea stick compared to those scary monster reflectors.
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Mark Costello
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: Doug Culbertson]
#5519825 - 11/14/12 05:16 PM
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I wonder what he does when his Dob is pointed almost straight up?
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jrbarnett
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: snommisbor]
#5519831 - 11/14/12 05:20 PM
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"I liken it to if you order unsweet tea and they bring you sweet tea and you take a big drink and it takes a few seconds to sink in you are not drinking what you thought."
That's just the taste of "aperture is king" flavored kool-aid.
- Jim
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Sky Captain
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: jrbarnett]
#5520324 - 11/14/12 11:14 PM
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No, but it looks as if I came here by mistake... 
Better get back to the  forum... 
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stevew
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: Sky Captain]
#5520352 - 11/14/12 11:36 PM
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I wandered over there once, but they weren't talking about telescopes, just some sort of arachnid.
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snommisbor
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: Sky Captain]
#5520374 - 11/14/12 11:58 PM
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No, but it looks as if I came here by mistake...
Better get back to the forum...
 Well played.
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chboss
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: snommisbor]
#5520448 - 11/15/12 01:17 AM
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LOL this thread should be made sticky!
regards
Chris
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hottr6
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: stevew]
#5520736 - 11/15/12 08:31 AM
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I wandered over there once, but they weren't talking about telescopes, just some sort of arachnid.
If y'all really want to get lost in a jargon-filled forum, visit the APers!
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David Pavlich
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: hottr6]
#5520755 - 11/15/12 08:53 AM
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I just goto the Reflector section to see what NGC891 looks like from a light polluted backyard. 
David
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Andy Taylor
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: David Pavlich]
#5521174 - 11/15/12 12:49 PM
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Ever visited the eyepiece forum? - nutters!
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saemark30
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: Andy Taylor]
#5521204 - 11/15/12 01:12 PM
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You didn't also go into the CATs and Cass. did ya?
At least with Newts you can get great optics, SCT's now that's wishful thinking!
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Bill Cowles
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: snommisbor]
#5521394 - 11/15/12 03:06 PM
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Too many times. 
Bill
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Andy Taylor
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: saemark30]
#5521537 - 11/15/12 04:33 PM
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You didn't also go into the CATs and Cass. did ya?
At least with Newts you can get great optics, SCT's now that's wishful thinking!
Sorry - I own two... 
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Andy Taylor
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: Andy Taylor]
#5521554 - 11/15/12 04:43 PM
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You didn't also go into the CATs and Cass. did ya?
At least with Newts you can get great optics, SCT's now that's wishful thinking!
Sorry - I own two...
Well, one is a Mak - at least it's spherical...
No fruity correcter plate. 
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Meadeball
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: Andy Taylor]
#5521610 - 11/15/12 05:32 PM
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Actually the two boards are very similar. Both groups spend an enormous amount of time turning knobs. With us, they're called "focusing knobs." With them, they're called "collimation screws."
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Astrojensen
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: Meadeball]
#5521622 - 11/15/12 05:42 PM
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Actually the two boards are very similar. Both groups spend an enormous amount of time turning knobs. With us, they're called "focusing knobs." With them, they're called "collimation screws."
That was true with my C8. It always seemed to drift around and it took forever to get it just right, because the design is so sensitive. My 12" dob? It takes three minutes, tops, and is very easy. The rest of the evening, the only knob touched is the one on the focuser!
But it is true that one of the strengths of the refractor is that it stays in collimation. Usually, at least.
Clear skies!
Thomas, Denmark
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mikey cee
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: Astrojensen]
#5522112 - 11/15/12 11:23 PM
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Not if I can help it!! Us refractor owners are more "sharp focused" when it comes to that. Mike
Edited by mikey cee (11/15/12 11:28 PM)
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Jon Isaacs
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: Astrojensen]
#5522322 - 11/16/12 06:35 AM
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But it is true that one of the strengths of the refractor is that it stays in collimation. Usually, at least.
The reason refractors stay in collimation is that they have to, otherwise they would be unusable. Newtonians have very lax collimation tolerances because there is only one curved surface so they can be collimated by the owner in the field in a moment are two. Refractors are touchier is this regard. Some apo's require centering of the elements to within a few microns. No one sends a Newtonian to the factory to be collimated, it happens with refractors all the time...
Jon
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RGM
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: Jon Isaacs]
#5522330 - 11/16/12 06:54 AM
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I wander around CN because of my various scopes, but I consider this forum as home, followed by EPs.
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csrlice12
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Re: You ever go to the Reflector forum by mistake?
[Re: Jon Isaacs]
#5523073 - 11/16/12 03:33 PM
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But it is true that one of the strengths of the refractor is that it stays in collimation. Usually, at least.
The reason refractors stay in collimation is that they have to, otherwise they would be unusable. Newtonians have very lax collimation tolerances because there is only one curved surface so they can be collimated by the owner in the field in a moment are two. Refractors are touchier is this regard. Some apo's require centering of the elements to within a few microns. No one sends a Newtonian to the factory to be collimated, it happens with refractors all the time...
Jon
Yes, but you can easily collimate a Dob. Collimating a refractor...good luck with that; maybe if you start now, you'll be ready by tonight....
that being said; I'm going to S&S Optica soon to purchase my Xmas Present, and Omni 102XLT; luckily it'll come collimated. Not that I wouldn't do it myself, its all part of the learning process and responsibility that comes with a scope. Just like I've never used an EQ mount; but I'll learn,of that I have no doubt. I love my 10XTi, at a dark site, I'm a happy camper. Here in town though (white zone, my front yard is boardered by skyscrapers (Denver Tech Center). I mostly want the refractor for planetary and lunar. I don't think of a reflector as any better or worse then a refractor; they're actually very complementory to each other. I propably will end up using the refractor more, just because its an hours drive to a dark site. I have no doubt I'll love both of them.
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