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Pauls72
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Eyepiece upgrade? new
      #5532523 - 11/21/12 03:46 PM

I'm looking to either upgrade an eyepiece or fill a void and am struggling with what to do and how to do it. What I'm primarily looking at is the 9-13mm range.

In this range I currently have:
Orion Sirius Plossl 9mm (couple of them)
Orion ED-2 9.5mm
Badder Hyperion Mark-III Zoom 8-24mm

I also have a Badder Hyperion 17mm, I do not have any Explorer Scientific, but have looked through some larger ones.

I'm kind of torn between an Explorer Scientific 82° 11mm or a Badder Hyperion 10mm. Secondary choices are Hyperion 13mm, ES 82° 8.8mm or ES 82° 14mm.

I would like to stay under $150, but could go as high as $200. I am very happy with both of my Hyperion's, so to add on seems like the logical choice, plus they have the dual format of 2" & 1.25" and I could have one in my hands in just a few days. I have heard almost nothing but good things about about the ES eyepieces other than their lack of availability. On the down side they are all 1.25" format and I would have to wait until who knows when to get them. On the plus side with the ES being on sale for $99 I could order 2 maybe a 14mm and 8.8mm.

I'm open to other suggestions too.

My favorite scope is my C11, but my most used one is the 102mm MAK. So high real magnification eyepieces are not what I'm looking for, cause I just won't be able to use them all that often.


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csrlice12
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Re: Eyepiece upgrade? new [Re: Pauls72]
      #5532536 - 11/21/12 03:51 PM

Go for the ES82 11mm--best of the ES82 1.25" line. The 8.8 is good, but has flaring issues (kind of hit or miss) with bright objects (moon, jupiter); one in view though, the views are great. The 14mm I have is also great, but some people have notice some coma with it. Given the choice--go for the 11mm; it also barlows well.

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kkokkolis
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Re: Eyepiece upgrade? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5532588 - 11/21/12 04:23 PM

I had most Hyperions (31, 24, 17, 13, 10 and 8, Zoom also) and now I got some ES (100 20 & 9, 82 6.7 & 4.7 and 68 24). For your SCT and Mak Hyperions are great options. They have good transmission, eye relief and they come to focus at both formats. ES are better for a f/5 Newtonian.

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Starman81
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Re: Eyepiece upgrade? [Re: kkokkolis]
      #5533086 - 11/21/12 10:51 PM

I would not recommend the Hyperion 10mm if you have the Hyperion Zoom already. The Zoom @10mm is better IMO with a mostly sharp field stop and roughly 65 deg AFOV--just a nicer 'presentation' overall.

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thomas68
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Re: Eyepiece upgrade? new [Re: Starman81]
      #5533517 - 11/22/12 08:28 AM

The ES 8.8,11,14 work great in my C8,also have two ES 68 16,20 very nice eyepieces for the money.

Tom


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howard929
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Re: Eyepiece upgrade? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5533572 - 11/22/12 09:14 AM

Quote:

Go for the ES82 11mm--best of the ES82 1.25" line.




+1

At anywhere near that magnification, if it doesn't look sharp with that eyepiece then seeing is really bad or my telescope is broken.


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Pauls72
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Re: Eyepiece upgrade? new [Re: howard929]
      #5540400 - 11/26/12 02:19 PM

I believe I can predict the weather in the Chicago area for the next few days or maybe even weeks.



Some one came calling today...



No not Santa, it was just the mail lady and look what she brought me.



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Warren914
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Re: Eyepiece upgrade? new [Re: Pauls72]
      #5540414 - 11/26/12 02:26 PM

What about the Baader Hyperion 2.25x barlow for their 8-24mm zoom? It would create a 3.7-10.7mm zoom.

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csrlice12
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Re: Eyepiece upgrade? new [Re: Pauls72]
      #5540423 - 11/26/12 02:32 PM

A big brown box! You could store a scope in it!

Comeon, show us what's IN the box.....


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Pauls72
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Re: Eyepiece upgrade? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5540446 - 11/26/12 02:46 PM

It's actually a belated birthday present from my wife. I still haven't figured out what I want for Xmas yet. With 4 of my own scopes and the clubs trust tube DOB all residing here I wouldn't dare to even suggest another scope. I already get harassed when they are not all put away.

And yes it is gray and overcast here today.


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SeattleScott
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Re: Eyepiece upgrade? new [Re: Pauls72]
      #5541207 - 11/26/12 10:36 PM

I agree that there is little point in getting a 10mm Hyperion when you already have the Hyperion zoom. The ES will at least give you a different option with a wider FOV. And I don't know that Hyperions are better for SCT/Maks and ES are better for F5 reflectors. From what I have heard, the ES are better in fast scopes like F5 reflectors than the Hyperions, but that wouldn't make the ES any worse than the Hyperions in F10-F15 scopes. It really comes down to whether you want more eye relief or a wider FOV.

FWIW I have ES but not Hyperion so I may not be the best qualified to judge them comparatively.


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Pauls72
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Re: Eyepiece upgrade? new [Re: SeattleScott]
      #5541339 - 11/26/12 11:41 PM

I like wide views and a fair amount of eye relief. I have an F4.7 - 8" reflector and F5.0 - 80mm Short Tube refactor too. I bought the eyepieces used off of Astromart as a set for a reasonable price. I figured that if didn't like them I could always sell them and get a couple of Hyperions or something else.

Now all I have to do is wait for the clouds to part...


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