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Rob E
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Generator instead of Batteries
      #5534332 - 11/22/12 07:02 PM

I'm considering trying to get a small portable generator for use in the field.. Who else has already gone down this path and what were your experiences?

Looking at the smaller Honeywell, Yamaha, Generac or Honda products.. I'd like some recommendations.

My requirements are simply to run a mount or two and dew management. I'd really like a low noise unit to minimize disturbing others..

Your experiences please???


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starrancher
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: Rob E]
      #5534347 - 11/22/12 07:21 PM

Quote:

I'm considering trying to get a small portable generator for use in the field.. Who else has already gone down this path and what were your experiences?

Looking at the smaller Honeywell, Yamaha, Generac or Honda products.. I'd like some recommendations.

My requirements are simply to run a mount or two and dew management. I'd really like a low noise unit to minimize disturbing others..

Your experiences please???




IMHO , the use of a generator in a private setting is all fine and dandy but in a star party setting , even a low noise unit would be a desturbance and therefor inconsiderate to others aside from the exhaust fumes being emitted .


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kfiscus
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: starrancher]
      #5534396 - 11/22/12 08:12 PM

I would think you'd have an extreme excess of power.

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Charlie B
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: Rob E]
      #5534407 - 11/22/12 08:21 PM

Most star parties do not allow generators run at night. Some don't allow generators at all. I have a very quiet Honda 1KW, which I use to charge batteries during the day, when allowed.

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Charlie B


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bardo
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: Charlie B]
      #5534671 - 11/23/12 12:33 AM

It would be like hauling an 8" dob with an eighteen wheeler.

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omahaastro
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: bardo]
      #5534692 - 11/23/12 12:53 AM

I use a Honda EU2000 all the time when I'm not at star parties... allows me to run a space heater in the trailer, along with powering everything else... it's almost like having a 15 amp wall outlet in the field.

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Rob E
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: omahaastro]
      #5534931 - 11/23/12 07:11 AM

Quote:

I use a Honda EU2000 all the time when I'm not at star parties... allows me to run a space heater in the trailer, along with powering everything else... it's almost like having a 15 amp wall outlet in the field.




That's one of the models I'm looking at. My intent is to put it a small distance away and supply outlets for a few people.


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Rob E
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: bardo]
      #5534934 - 11/23/12 07:13 AM

Quote:

It would be like hauling an 8" dob with an eighteen wheeler.




So it balances out since I used to haul my 16 in a MINI Cooper.


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edwincjones
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: Rob E]
      #5534936 - 11/23/12 07:15 AM

would work, in private, if noise and fumes not an issue for you,
but it seems like overkill, both power and cost

edj

If I used one, I would want to place it off and down wind,
and have a radio to drown out the noise

I have a Honda 2000 and not real loud, but noticeable

Edited by edwincjones (11/23/12 07:18 AM)


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tomharri
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: Rob E]
      #5534938 - 11/23/12 07:18 AM

Get yourself a Honda, very quiet BUT you still have the exhaust stink. Kinda like those motorcycles with the under seat exhausts, you get wrapped up in exhaust fumes.

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Jarad
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: tomharri]
      #5534980 - 11/23/12 08:07 AM

There was a long thread about generators and solar panels here that you may want to look over.

Jarad


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omahaastro
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: Jarad]
      #5534996 - 11/23/12 08:25 AM

I've found that a long extension cord solves fume issue.

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Don Trinko
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: omahaastro]
      #5535054 - 11/23/12 09:02 AM

as above: overkill unless you want to run a lot of stuff.
All IMO; Don T.


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Charlie B
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: bardo]
      #5535293 - 11/23/12 11:27 AM

Quote:

It would be like hauling an 8" dob with an eighteen wheeler.



It's still handy to have. I carry 3 batteries: 1) 110 aH deep cycle that handles my mount and dew heaters, 2) a 17 aH battery for my laptop and 3) a 17 aH spare to star parties. After a long night, charging takes hours. It saves me from having to carry all the batteries to a charging station and waiting for a free outlet.

BTW the generator is the Honda EU1000 and is rated as the quietest on the market. I use a 25 foot power cable to keep the generator at a distance when running, and at that distance, the sound is hardly heard.

Also, when I lost power for 3 days after a storm, this generator powered 2 refridgators in 100+ temps. I lost no food.

Regards,

Charlie B


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Phil Sherman
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: Charlie B]
      #5535601 - 11/23/12 02:15 PM

The Honda generators are the quietest, easiest to start, and the most expensive in their class. One problem with almost all small generators is the need to carry cans of gasoline around. Sams Club sells one for less than half the cost of a Honda that runs on propane. This one has much less smell than a gasoline powered one and propane can be stored for long periods of time without going bad.

Harbor Freight has an 800W two cycle (50:1 gas/oil mix) that's currently available for less than $100. Lots more pollution than straight gasoline and now you need to carry mixed fuel that also goes bad with age.

There's at least two other 2kw generators similar to the Honda available from different vendors. Both cost lost less than the Honda but, like most things today, you get what you pay for. Make sure you check reviews before making any purchase.

Phil


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Rob E
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: Phil Sherman]
      #5535748 - 11/23/12 03:36 PM

Definitely..

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Charlie B
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: Phil Sherman]
      #5535830 - 11/23/12 04:27 PM

Quote:

The Honda generators are the quietest, easiest to start, and the most expensive in their class. One problem with almost all small generators is the need to carry cans of gasoline around. Sams Club sells one for less than half the cost of a Honda that runs on propane. This one has much less smell than a gasoline powered one and propane can be stored for long periods of time without going bad.





Yes, but.. The propane generator weighs 105 lbs and is 10 times noiser (68 dB vice 57 dB). You also have to carry propane (about 2 hours of running per lb of propane).

The honda is small and portable (I can carry it easily with one hand) and runs for a very long time (10-16 hours) on a gallon of gas.

Regards,
Charlie


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stmguy
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Reged: 10/11/12

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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: Charlie B]
      #5536988 - 11/24/12 10:34 AM

You might look at the Lifan invertor generators, we bought one for the boat and are very happy with it. It is quiet and half the cost of the Honda's
Norm


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ahopp
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Re: Generator instead of Batteries new [Re: stmguy]
      #5552191 - 12/03/12 02:46 PM

I have the Honda EU3000is, it runs my mobile observatory. Absolutely the best...

Tony


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