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Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less
      #5548739 - 12/01/12 12:44 PM Attachment (266 downloads)

Hi folks,

Jupiter reaches opposition this weekend and it won't get any better than this. I would love to see what folks with smaller aperture scopes can do while we have this great opportunity. Here is The King on Friday morning, taken with my SW100ED (4") at f/36. Seeing conditions were only average/fair, but the small refractor still gave a good account of itself. Interested in giving it a go? Good luck!

Clear Skies,
Brian


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5548764 - 12/01/12 01:00 PM

Dang, that's impressive for a 4" scope!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: AlanL]
      #5549054 - 12/01/12 04:28 PM

Great job with the small bore Brian! I've got a question about imaging Jupiter with a refractor; I was trying to use a 3x barlow on my 92mm TMB-92L refractor but I couldn't get enough back focus to accomplish that. Do you increase the effective focal length of your refractor with a barlow or with eyepiece projection? How high can you increase the effective focal length of your system?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5549160 - 12/01/12 05:53 PM

Beautiful shot!
What camera?

Edited by rg55 (12/01/12 05:53 PM)


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: AlanL]
      #5549399 - 12/01/12 09:04 PM

Thanks Alan, Pete, and Richard! Pete - With the SW100ED I use a Barlow to boost the focal length from f/9 to f/27 through f/45...this shot used a Siebert 4x Barlow for f/36. In order to reach focus with your refractor you may need a tube extension - I do. I prefer the ones from Stellarvue.
Richard - This image was taken with an Imaging Source DBK21AU618 (a one shot color camera) and a Baader UV/IR cut filter.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5549582 - 12/01/12 11:39 PM Attachment (129 downloads)

I'm still very, very new at imaging. Really green. But, this is one I took on Thanksgiving with a Questar 3.5, no barlow, and re-sized.

V/R

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: TerryWood]
      #5549589 - 12/01/12 11:42 PM Attachment (91 downloads)

And one more.

V/R

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5549647 - 12/02/12 12:23 AM Attachment (109 downloads)

Here's my humble contribution:

Edited by rg55 (12/02/12 12:26 AM)


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: rg55]
      #5549780 - 12/02/12 03:38 AM

Nice job Terry and Richard Ya'll coaxed some nice detail out of those images, let's see what else we can get...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5549802 - 12/02/12 04:33 AM Attachment (100 downloads)

Here's my contribution. I used a 130 mm F/11.5 Schmidt-Cassegrain telescope and a 3x barlow to capture this image on the 14th of November. The camera is a DBK21 and I used about 1700 frames. Stacking was done with Autostakkert!2, wavelets with Registax 6 and further processing with Photoshop CS2.
Conditions were fair to good that night.
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5550159 - 12/02/12 11:19 AM

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In order to reach focus with your refractor you may need a tube extension - I do...




Thanks Brian. How do you calculate the required extension tube length for your barlow/refractor combination? Is there a formula for doing that?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: lcd1080]
      #5550196 - 12/02/12 11:42 AM

Hi Pete,

I am mortally certain there is a formula but I have no idea what it is and did not use it myself. The operational way to tell is to plug in your planet cam and keep racking the focuser in and out until you score focus or see an out-of-focus blob at maximum in or out travel. If you get the blob (most likely at maximum extension) you need a tube extender. You can get them from Orion, TV, AP, Stellarvue and elsewhere; I like the ET3 model from SV: http://www.stellarvue.com/adapters.html, you are looking for something that gives you about 2" extra travel. You will need a 1.25" adapter to receive your nosepiece, I find this centering adapter from Orion does a great job keeping everything tight and properly aligned: http://www.optcorp.com/product.aspx?pid=15747&kw=centering%20adapter&... Hope this helps!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: rik ter horst]
      #5550202 - 12/02/12 11:45 AM

Great job Rik! Very nice image with lots of good detail; personally I would down scale it by about 25% to 35% for presentation...that is just a personal preference. Thanks for posting

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5550333 - 12/02/12 01:19 PM

Thanks again Brian, I rummaged through my box full of accessories and found an extension tube and two adapters, one for a DBK camera and one for a DSLR. Thanks for your detailed answer and for motivating me to look through my accessory box!

Pete





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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: lcd1080]
      #5550458 - 12/02/12 02:32 PM

Your welcome, looks like you have what you need there. Good shooting!

Clear Skies,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5550883 - 12/02/12 07:27 PM

You guys with your small aperture and hidef images are astounding. Times this is some great work.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: azure1961p]
      #5556822 - 12/06/12 02:41 AM Attachment (79 downloads)

Well after seeing this thread, and since I was not having much luck with the C14, I took up the challenge tonight and got a nice widefield shot with 90mm Apex Mak-Cass. Hope you enjoy.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5556830 - 12/06/12 02:49 AM

Nice Paul - not sure what exactly defines "small bore" but I was going to set up the 5" apo with the ASI120MC colour cam to see how that fared on Jupiter on a night when/if old Jove cooperates..!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #5556833 - 12/06/12 02:50 AM

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Nice Paul - not sure what exactly defines "small bore" but I was going to set up the 5" apo with the ASI120MC colour cam to see how that fared on Jupiter on a night when/if old Jove cooperates..!




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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #5556837 - 12/06/12 02:59 AM

Your APO qualifies, Darryl. I'd like to see what the new cam does on some other scopes, too.

I've ordered DMK21AU618 before I saw your stunning pics with the new cam. I just couldn't make the old DMK31 work on the C14. I want to try a color CMOS later and see if I can get away from mono everything. Thanks.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5557103 - 12/06/12 09:05 AM

A couple of pics from earlier this week, both taken with my IS DBK618 cam. Captured with IC Capture, cropped/centered in Castrator, stacked in AS!2 and wavelets in R6; no further processing done.

C6SGT at f/30 (4500mm):


AT72ED at f/36 (2580mm):


The scopes share a dual saddle on my CG5 mount so getting shots thru both was fairly quick and painless.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: kbev]
      #5558843 - 12/07/12 08:42 AM Attachment (43 downloads)

This thread inspired me to use a Takahashi TS-40 afocally with a 7mm ep. I got about a hundred frames stacked in AviStack2 and no additional processing. Nearly broke my neck trying to point the thing almost straight up while lying on the grass. I think one can see a hint of something.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5559919 - 12/07/12 08:26 PM

Captured with celestron 5i and canon 3T stacked in registax6

My best so far but still trying.
Be Well
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Edited by Greyhaven (12/07/12 08:30 PM)


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Greyhaven]
      #5563247 - 12/09/12 10:19 PM

This thread and Mert's photo had me going back through the captures I did with my 6" newt and webcam. I knew I had some pretty decent images, but couldnt remember if they could compare with anything I get with my 8" now. Went back through my Flickr account and I did have some really good images with my 6", and although it isn't from this year, I have to say it is some of my best.

This is from August of 2010 with my C6-N + SPC900NC:


Jupiter 8/7/10 8:20UT by zAmb0ni, on Flickr

Also, here is a link to an animation from the same night.

I'm pretty sure that I did the stacking in registax, going to see if I still have the videos on my hard drive and try stacking them in AS2! to see if there is any improvement.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: zAmbonii]
      #5563739 - 12/10/12 08:46 AM

Hi zAmbonii,

Great image you uploaded here, that 6" of you sure
performs great!
Maybe I just got lucky with the result posted in my
other thread, I'll do some more avi's maybe tonight when
I get home and post an image in this thread as well!


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Mert]
      #5563841 - 12/10/12 09:47 AM

This is I guess my best Jupiter from 2011 when I used to have a 6" Meade (LS6 ACF).



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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5564824 - 12/10/12 08:18 PM

Great shot Paul, love that composition! What's the focal ratio on that scope?

Clear Skies,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #5564829 - 12/10/12 08:21 PM

Dive on in Darryl, the water's fine! I'd like to see what your 5" and new CMOS cam could do...

Clear Skies,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: kbev]
      #5564835 - 12/10/12 08:23 PM

Super shot from that C6SGT Kevin

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: flava]
      #5564839 - 12/10/12 08:25 PM

What a bunch of cool pix you folks are posting! Big kudos to zA and flava...magnificent work there

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5564853 - 12/10/12 08:33 PM Attachment (43 downloads)

Too much fun to not play, especially since I'm still socked in. Here is another from 10 November 2012 at 07-50-43 UT with the SW100ED at f/36 (Siebert 4x Barlow) with the DBK21AU618...

Clear Skies,
Brian

Edited by BKBrown (12/10/12 08:34 PM)


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5564859 - 12/10/12 08:37 PM

Very nice Brian! On a side note if you don't mind, how would you rate the Siebert 4X barlow? I've heard some good things about the Siebert optics, they appear anyway to be good bargains.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5565350 - 12/11/12 02:45 AM

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What a bunch of cool pix you folks are posting! Big kudos to zA and flava...magnificent work there




Thx! I went back and I still did have the .avi from that capture and tried restacking it and didn't get anything better. Guess my processing hasn't really changed much in 2 yrs! .

Funny thing about the video is that I have no clue just how I nailed focus. There really wasn't a feature big enough to really focus on. At least with my 8" I can find *something* to use as a reference to try and get focus. I think that is one of the problems with getting a really good image from a small bore scope on planets, it is tough to get the right focus because the target is usually too small. I did have the advantage of a dual speed crayford on my reflector.

I should have a dual crayford her by Friday at least for my 8". I really hope that it will help on that scope. Not sure when my new camera will arrive though.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: zAmbonii]
      #5565357 - 12/11/12 03:07 AM Attachment (36 downloads)

Here's my attempt tonight...MN61 with a Klee 2.8x and ToUcam Pro.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ricky]
      #5565649 - 12/11/12 10:07 AM

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Great shot Paul, love that composition! What's the focal ratio on that scope?




Orion Apex, f13, 90mm x 1250mm, 1.5x piggy back barlow...Thanks, Brian

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5566120 - 12/11/12 03:11 PM

Another one from 2011 with the 6" Meade LS6. Good seeing.



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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: DesertRat]
      #5566337 - 12/11/12 05:28 PM

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Very nice Brian! On a side note if you don't mind, how would you rate the Siebert 4X barlow? I've heard some good things about the Siebert optics, they appear anyway to be good bargains.

Glenn




Thanks Glenn! I really like Harry Siebert's gear, it's well made and has some of the nicest glass I have ever seen. Not everyone cares for the minimalist feel of his Barlows and eyepieces; his stuff is very light in weight compared to other equipment, but I like it. My imaging case currently has the 1.75x, 4x, and Multi-1.5x to 3.5x Barlows from Siebert, and they get a lot of use...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ricky]
      #5566341 - 12/11/12 05:31 PM

Very nice Ricky, you caught some cool detail. Any chance you could lighten it up a bit? It is very dark on my screen...thanks

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5566351 - 12/11/12 05:35 PM

Thanks Brian! I just posted a more "seeable" version of this image in a separate thread.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ricky]
      #5566408 - 12/11/12 06:26 PM Attachment (40 downloads)

All published so far are great images, hat off for all
of you!

Here is my attempt as promised, eventhough my laptop
crashed and I lost nearly 27 avi's.
Here is 1 I could save from that drive, stacked with AS!2
wavelets with Registax, nothing more.
Taken with my 6" MAk, TV x2 barlow and the DFK21 @15fps
at aprox. 4200mm FL.
Too bad all my avi's are gone, now restoring my laptop.
BTW, due to filelimit size this is a jpg version, the
other version 390kB is much nicer.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Mert]
      #5566456 - 12/11/12 07:05 PM

That is a sweet image Mert, very well done

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5570504 - 12/14/12 09:14 AM Attachment (48 downloads)

Jupiter through my new 6-inch SCT on a night of so-so seeing. Taken with a Celestron NexImage.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: joelimite]
      #5570608 - 12/14/12 10:31 AM Attachment (32 downloads)

I dont have anything new so I had to dig this one out from years ago.
Taken with an 80mm Stellarvue NHNG on July 6th, 2007.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: tboss70]
      #5570828 - 12/14/12 01:02 PM Attachment (38 downloads)

..and I'll include this one from Dec 10, 2012. Avg seeing with the Skywatcher Pro 100ED and SPC900 webcam.

Edited by tboss70 (12/14/12 02:08 PM)


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: tboss70]
      #5573387 - 12/15/12 11:04 PM Attachment (38 downloads)

And even more coolness from flava, Mert, Joel and Todd Great work guys, I finally got my TEC 140 out the other night and bagged a ton of good data. I am still going through it, but here are a couple of shots...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5573392 - 12/15/12 11:05 PM Attachment (39 downloads)

And here is a transit shot from the evening of 13 December...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5573401 - 12/15/12 11:12 PM

These last 2 images are very nice indeed Brian..!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #5573424 - 12/15/12 11:33 PM

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These last 2 images are very nice indeed Brian..!




Yup! Better than the image I got with my 8" taken at the same time!


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5573794 - 12/16/12 09:31 AM

Brian,

Extremely impressive!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Sunspot]
      #5573937 - 12/16/12 10:59 AM

Nice images, Gentlemen.

I took 5 images from the earlier session and made an animation. Not only is Ganymede making a transit, Europa is at its max elongation and making a direction change from our perspective. Callisto is emerging from Jupiter's shadow.

Widefield Animation of Jupiter and Moons


You can visit Astrobin for the GIF. Thanks.

Paul

BTW: does anyone think the faint object moving between Io and Europa is anything other than an artifact? Starry Night did not show a smaller moon in that position. And it seems to follow an orbital path...not of a Jovian moon though...more like a comet. But, I don't think it is a comet. Weird?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5574116 - 12/16/12 12:50 PM

Really nice going to all, and Brian that TEC 140, I've been hoping that somebody would post a really nice image from that scope some day, and that day is here, very nice!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5574125 - 12/16/12 12:54 PM

Hi Paul, nice, and I looked at the GIF, I was at first thrilled at the angle it was coming in, but then I thought that perhaps it's a hot pixel (my cameras have a number of those), the orbital path being the periodic error of your mount?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Jason H.]
      #5574322 - 12/16/12 03:13 PM

I was thinking along those same lines, Jason. I have had some hot pixels showing up, especially at higher gain settings. The artifact is noticeable in red channel.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #5574335 - 12/16/12 03:21 PM

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These last 2 images are very nice indeed Brian..!




Thanks Darryl! Did you ever get a chance to image with your 5"? Just curious

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5574340 - 12/16/12 03:25 PM

Thanks zA, Paul & Paul, and Jason I promised myself that after opposition and before Jupiter started shrinking that I would do some imaging with the 5.5", it's a lot of fun! And here is a link to an animation I made using 20 images from the 13th, sorry it gets twitchy in the middle but I had a 16 minute break that broke my stride...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/62745990@N05/

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5574360 - 12/16/12 03:37 PM

These two images taken with your TAK140 are most impacting!
Very crisp and detailed, excellent Brian, well done!


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5574663 - 12/16/12 07:21 PM

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These last 2 images are very nice indeed Brian..!




Thanks Darryl! Did you ever get a chance to image with your 5"? Just curious

Clear Skies,
Brian




My "Jupiter campaign" was just too demanding with only one scope unfortunately Brian.....and I'm still processing stuff from them 5 days after we got back - hope to post a compilation of all the good images/animations in a few days but for sure I'll do some 5" imaging on Saturn, the season of which starts very soon down here..!


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5574686 - 12/16/12 07:46 PM

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I was thinking along those same lines, Jason. I have had some hot pixels showing up, especially at higher gain settings. The artifact is noticeable in red channel.
Paul




Hi Paul, I used to crop the hot pixel trails out when possible so that I didn't have to push the black down too much or copy paste unnatural blocks of space that can be seen because their noise/gradients don't match, but I really like a bigger outer space as a backdrop, so I finally recently started using the clone tool with a small draw tip sampling the very nearby background space, which will pretty much match any background gradient, for very natural erasing of hot pixel trails no matter how long they are. If you or anyone have any questions about that, you can PM me.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Jason H.]
      #5575379 - 12/17/12 08:56 AM

I reprocessed mine in an attempt to improve the color correction. Processing is hard...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tychosnose/8278780047/in/photostream


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5576781 - 12/18/12 03:22 AM Attachment (24 downloads)

This is only my second attempt with this camera, and fourth overall, so I'm at the very beginning of planetary photography.
I used: 150/750 Newtonian scope, 2x No Name Barlow, DMK21.AU04.AS camera, Registax6 for processing.

Aditional data: Night of 12.17.2012, GRS visible, Visible Moons Io and Europa


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ricky]
      #5576795 - 12/18/12 04:06 AM Attachment (41 downloads)

Here's your image Ricky with a small levels adjustment in CS3

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Jason H.]
      #5581614 - 12/20/12 10:53 PM

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Really nice going to all, and Brian that TEC 140, I've been hoping that somebody would post a really nice image from that scope some day, and that day is here, very nice!

Jason W. Higley




Thanks Jason

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: joelimite]
      #5581620 - 12/20/12 10:56 PM

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I reprocessed mine in an attempt to improve the color correction. Processing is hard...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tychosnose/8278780047/in/photostream




Good job on the reprocess, looks like you teased some more detail out in there...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: MrMxyzptlk]
      #5581624 - 12/20/12 10:58 PM

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This is only my second attempt with this camera, and fourth overall, so I'm at the very beginning of planetary photography.
I used: 150/750 Newtonian scope, 2x No Name Barlow, DMK21.AU04.AS camera, Registax6 for processing.

Aditional data: Night of 12.17.2012, GRS visible, Visible Moons Io and Europa





That's a solid effort, looks like you are getting the hang of that new camera

Clear Skies,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5581916 - 12/21/12 05:50 AM Attachment (35 downloads)

Carton 100mm F13.
Rotten seeing.
SharpCap
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Wavelets in Registax 6
Colour balance in Fitswork


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Andy Taylor]
      #5582199 - 12/21/12 10:08 AM Attachment (33 downloads)

I think I shot a bull's eye

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5590038 - 12/26/12 05:33 PM Attachment (36 downloads)

Hi! -Long time, no see....


This one was truly a picture to die for... -almost!!

I have been trying to grab some good images this autumn and winter.. -but with no greater luck, due to the extremely bad weather we have been experiencing here. I have gotten some "kind of -ok" shots with both the C8 and C9,25, but nothing with the quality that I expected to get, when Jupiter was at about 55 degrees elevation. Well, I shot this image of Jupiter and Io, tonight from my balcony. As we have milder weather coming in now, the snow on my roof has been melting for a couple of days. As I was mounting the scope on the mount, a small (but obviously heavy) avalanche of snow and ice fell down on the balcony... It hit my balcony table, were I have my laptop placed when imaging.... -leaving the table completely crushed! I dont want to think about, what would have happened if that chunk of ice had hit me in the head!! I decided to go on with my imaging mission anyway, and I managed to grab one .avi before the clouds came rolling in.

I used my Vixen ED 100 SF and the DBK.21.618 with a 2,5X PM. 2500 frames of 5000. Y800/Y800 codec. The image is resized to 170% in R6.

The picture itself is nothing to write home about, only half decent seeing, windy (15 m/sec) and clouds coming and going...

I´ll post it anyway, as it could have been my last! Next time, when imaging on my balcony, I will wear a helmet for sure!! I will go through the images that I have shot with the C8 and C9,25 this autumn/winter and post the better of them later on!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: sunrutas]
      #5590070 - 12/26/12 05:57 PM

Nice to see you posing again Roger, been a while! Sounds like you need a helmet yes! Very nice image with the 100ED. I've pretty much had the same weather as you However I got lucky one day with my C8 (Yes, I got my old C8 back), and ended up with my best Jupiter session ever (Thread).

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Chris_H]
      #5590751 - 12/27/12 06:22 AM

Hi,
this is my Jupiter taken on 2012-11-26 from Italy... it is my first attempt on Jupiter using a SW Maksutov 5" and Celestron Neximage ccd:



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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5599131 - 01/01/13 05:38 AM

Joining the fun.
All pictures taken with a 150/750mm Newtonian scope (6"/30"), with a 2x Barlow, and stacked with Registax (and resized one of them). Pictures were taken at 12.31.2012 at 21:00 UT





A 7 minute animation:


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: MrMxyzptlk]
      #5599257 - 01/01/13 09:27 AM Attachment (21 downloads)

Here's one more; just my second Jupiter image since early days (6" dob & ETX-80) back in 2008. Actual frame rate was really slow and until I buy something more appropriate I may need to dust off my old SPC900NC webcam. Perhaps if I play around with the SSAG I can coax some more FPS out of it. This was set to capture 640x480; full frame was even slower, but still faster than 1 frame every 4 seconds, which is the best I can do on my SXV-H9 (not an SXVF - F for fast).

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5599404 - 01/01/13 11:26 AM

Beautiful shot amigo! That is a heck of a nice composition with everything you caught in that image

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Chris_H]
      #5599405 - 01/01/13 11:30 AM

Another nice pair from Andy and Roger - nice work guys
Roger - it's good to see you in the game, what have you been up to lately?
Hey Chris, you have any small bore to post for this apparition?

Clear Skies and Happy New Year,
Brian

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ciarlotto]
      #5599409 - 01/01/13 11:33 AM

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Hi,
this is my Jupiter taken on 2012-11-26 from Italy... it is my first attempt on Jupiter using a SW Maksutov 5" and Celestron Neximage ccd:






Well done Ciarlotto! I really like the presentation; so what do you think of the SW Mak?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: yock1960]
      #5599415 - 01/01/13 11:38 AM

Good work there MrMxyzptlk and Steve, very nicely done
Steve - looks like you got a handle on the color balance issue, did you do anything different for this collect?

Clear Skies and Happy New Year,
Brian

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5599432 - 01/01/13 11:45 AM Attachment (19 downloads)

It seems fitting that I closed out the imaging year with some small bore action. Jupiter put on quite a show the night of 30/31 December with an eclipse/emergence and transit events. This composite shows a bit of these two events, the pair was acquired through my TEC 140 and a Siebert 4x Barlow at f/28. I was using the DBK21AU618 with a Baader UV/IR cut filter at 60 fps for 180 seconds...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5599628 - 01/01/13 01:29 PM

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Steve - looks like you got a handle on the color balance issue, did you do anything different for this collect?
:




Not really, probably just less saturation boost in post processing. This data did not seem as good, even though there is more there...but...I'm probably not a good judge at this point. The deconvolution was more difficult to get...I won't say right as I'm still not totally happy with it. It'll take some time to get into a rhythm.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: yock1960]
      #5599790 - 01/01/13 03:07 PM Attachment (16 downloads)

Lot of very good images you al have posted here,
made me want to post another shot from 123012.
Taken with my 6" SW Mak.
I'd like to ask if the image is dark on your screens, since
on my laptop it's rather ok, maybe I have to adjust/
calibrate my screen?

Edited by Mert (01/01/13 03:08 PM)


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: claytonbigwood]
      #5599894 - 01/01/13 04:07 PM

Nice job!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ricky]
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Here's my reprocess...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ricky]
      #5600523 - 01/01/13 11:16 PM

I posted mine here: http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5600514/page...
Before I saw this thread.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
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An image of Jupiter with a 6" Newtonian (150/750) and 2x Barlow from 1.1.2013

First the animation of 42 minutes time span from 1.1.2013:



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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: MrMxyzptlk]
      #5600772 - 01/02/13 06:55 AM

@ Brian (BKBrown))Well done Ciarlotto! I really like the presentation; so what do you think of the SW Mak?

Hi, Brian,thank you.
I think Mak SW 127 is an amazing scope both for Planetary observations and imaging: jupiter's images were taken in no good seeing conditions but I presume that in better seeing conditions, Mak 127 is able to give stunning images. I appreciate a lot its collimation sistem and its ability to mantein collimation; the construction of the OTA is sturdy: you can feel it on the hands! great the contrast of images. I recently got an ASI1200MM: I'm waiting for a better weather to test it, and I presume that the couple Mak127-ASI120 will give good performance...
The little Mak is a very good telescope: I always suggest it for beginners who are interested to Solar Sistem observations and planetary imaging.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ciarlotto]
      #5604159 - 01/04/13 07:05 AM Attachment (31 downloads)

Hi,

here's my contribution - only my second picture ever of Jupiter. Its monochrome unfortunately as the camera I used was the DMK51. Although this camera is normally considered unsuitable for planets, I thought I'd give it a go and was pleasantly surprised by the result

Taken on 3rd Jan. through Vixen 102M at f20 and processed with AviStack and PS6.

cheers,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5604187 - 01/04/13 07:39 AM Attachment (25 downloads)

This was done 12/13/12. Just missed the transit. Anyway, shot was done in 2 parts. One for Jupiter, one for the Moons. Not real happy with the moons. Probably should have done it in 3 shots. Ganymeade, Io, and Europa got blown out a bit trying to get enough light to show Callisto.

Done with an iOptron 114 (4.5")Newt and MS Lifecam Studio. About as "small bore" as it gets.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Driven1]
      #5605713 - 01/04/13 10:52 PM

Welcome Paul and Driven1, thanks for the additions to the thread. Paul - that mono image actually looks pretty cool, I sometimes shoot mono with my 4" intentionally because cloud details tend to stand out better. Thanks!

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