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Lee Jay
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Jason Ware's LX800
      #5557122 - 12/06/12 09:21 AM

A few shots I haven't seen posted from Jason Ware. I found this set from a Facebook link on Meade's Facebook site.

Link 1

Link 2

Link 3

Link 4


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Starhawk
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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: Lee Jay]
      #5557139 - 12/06/12 09:33 AM

His stars aren't round. I wonder what his exposure times and focal length are.

-Rich


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Lee Jay
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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: Starhawk]
      #5557160 - 12/06/12 09:48 AM

All three targets would fit into the field of view at native focal length (2,438mm) with an APS-c sized sensor. M1 is much smaller than the other two and would only occupy a small portion of such a sensor.

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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: Lee Jay]
      #5557326 - 12/06/12 11:33 AM

I would be happy with those results.

I am not sure they are worth the price of a PMX though.


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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: orlyandico]
      #5557401 - 12/06/12 12:07 PM

I'm trying to figure out what to make of them. The soft focus and out of round stars seem peculiar, especially in 1 and 3. Is this typical for the ACF? I'm guessing this was with a 10" ACF- is that right? I had thought it was just a coma effect at first, but stars at the center are elongated. There is also som CA visible on blue-white stars, so it would appear there are more optics of some sort in the imaging train. Are you sure no reducer was used?

They are pretty for sure. There's just something odd seeming about them and I'm trying to figure out why.

-Rich


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Lee Jay
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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: Starhawk]
      #5557480 - 12/06/12 12:47 PM

A quote from the Facebook post by Jason on the Crab Nebula image:

"This is the longest exposure so far with the 12" Meade LX800. Total of 8.3 hours in HA, SII and OIII. The seeing was a little soft so the stars are not as sharp as I would like but not bad."


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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: Lee Jay]
      #5557545 - 12/06/12 01:24 PM

I'm not impressed.

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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: Calypte]
      #5557760 - 12/06/12 03:39 PM

I'd say they are very good images, sure others have managed better, but that doesnt say these are bad. Looking at how difficult it is for me to obtain good images as 2000 mm, a 12" scope sounds like a bigger challenge.

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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: Hilmi]
      #5557778 - 12/06/12 03:51 PM

Remember too, he has only had this setup for a short time, a few months. And, we do not know how much time he has dedicated it to this beta. Give him time to perfect his process. I plan to when I get my 14" LX800 back from recall.

Tony


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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: ahopp]
      #5557836 - 12/06/12 04:30 PM

Also it might help to know he does most of his imaging from a white zone known as the Dallas/Ft. Worth megapolis.

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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: StarmanDan]
      #5558010 - 12/06/12 06:07 PM

The Helix looks great, he may just need more time with the setup.

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Lee Jay
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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: rigel123]
      #5558019 - 12/06/12 06:17 PM

Quote:

The Helix looks great, he may just need more time with the setup.




That's what I thought. The Helix impressed me right away. The stars on NGC281 look pretty much perfectly round to me. The Crab was the weakest of the bunch, but it's also the smallest.

Do amateurs with a 12" SCT regularly capture a better Helix than this?


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Eric Gage
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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: Lee Jay]
      #5558034 - 12/06/12 06:26 PM

I like the Helix shot better than the Hubble comparison. I'm not a Meade guy, but Jason seems to be making good use of it.

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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: Eric Gage]
      #5558216 - 12/06/12 08:25 PM

this is the best amateur Helix I've found so far..
http://blog.deepskycolors.com/archive/2008/10/07/the-Helix-Nebula.html

but as pointed out,
1) it's a C9.25
2) it has the Optec 0.5X reducer, so EFL is only 1175mm


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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: Eric Gage]
      #5558225 - 12/06/12 08:35 PM

I find these images darn good especially at 2400mm focal length assuming it was taken with 12" F/8. It's always difficult to get round stars under bad seeing conditions for ANY mount especially with long focal length. His images are better than mine with my A-P Mach1. My sky is usually less than ideal and I rarely get round stars under bad seeing conditions. But I can get round stars when seeing is excellent but that's rare.

I wonder if Starlock or traditional autoguiding was used.

Kudos to this person making great images.

Peter


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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: Peter in Reno]
      #5558247 - 12/06/12 08:47 PM

He mentioned in an early facebook post (an Orion picture) that he was using StarLock.

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Peter in Reno
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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: Griffin!]
      #5558296 - 12/06/12 09:17 PM

I do not belong to Facebook and I have no interest in joining. It would be nice if Jason joined Cloudy Nights and share his experiences with LX800 here.

If he was using Starlock, then it may prove that the internal Crayford style focuser inside Meade's new SCT scope is working well.

I do not understand why Jason is the only one successful with LX800 unless his mount is the first to be fixed from the recall.

Peter


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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: Griffin!]
      #5558301 - 12/06/12 09:19 PM

A very tough crowd -- "His stars aren't round" & "I'm not impressed".

Those shots at Links 1 thru 4 look really good to me, and the stars look acceptably "round".

I'm not highly motivated to post images here.


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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: Peter in Reno]
      #5558340 - 12/06/12 09:44 PM

Quote:

I do not belong to Facebook and I have no interest in joining. It would be nice if Jason joined Cloudy Nights and share his experiences with LX800 here.

If he was using Starlock, then it may prove that the internal Crayford style focuser inside Meade's new SCT scope is working well.

I do not understand why Jason is the only one successful with LX800 unless his mount is the first to be fixed from the recall.

Peter




According to his posts he's part of Meade's LX800 testing team, he seems to be helping them refine the StarLock code.


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Re: Jason Ware's LX800 new [Re: Phil Wheeler]
      #5558359 - 12/06/12 09:58 PM

Quote:

A very tough crowd -- "His stars aren't round" & "I'm not impressed".

I'm not highly motivated to post images here.




Not tough on images just hating on meade a lot lately. If you took pictures with your celestron equipment and shared them they would be very well received. Write it down.


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