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mike73
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Loc: UK Plymouth
M1 and M42/43
      #5568684 - 12/13/12 05:25 AM Attachment (133 downloads)

I took a trip to a dark site last Saturday to put my new 16" Sumerian through its paces and had a great night.
Seeing was excellent at around Antoniadi I but poor transparency hampered DSO hunting/sketching so I have to wait a little longer to properly see how much detail a larger aperture scope can pull.

M1 was very hard to sketch with the conditions so poor, just a few fleeting glimpses was all that I was given to make the sketch.

The brighter M42/43 was alot easier but I under clearer skies I should imagine more detail and contrast should be shown.
They say good things come to those that wait well I've had enough of waiting....GIMMEE CLEAR SKIES!!!

Mike


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mike73
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: mike73]
      #5568685 - 12/13/12 05:26 AM Attachment (100 downloads)

M42/43

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Aquarellia
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: mike73]
      #5568689 - 12/13/12 05:34 AM

Well done Mike, your site is interesting as well, thanks to share.
Say hello for me to the beatifull bay of Plymouth
Michel


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Jef De Wit
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: Aquarellia]
      #5568693 - 12/13/12 05:43 AM



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Ed D
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: Jef De Wit]
      #5568695 - 12/13/12 05:51 AM

A 16" in dark skies, WOOOW! Nice sketches. I especially like the one of M1, which shows the detail well.

Ed D


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niteskystargazer
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: mike73]
      #5569568 - 12/13/12 04:46 PM

Mike,

Very nice sketches of M-1 & M-42/M-43 .

CS,KLU,

,

Tom


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Chopin
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: niteskystargazer]
      #5569788 - 12/13/12 07:23 PM

M1 is far from disappointing, my friend. Beautiful rendition with more detail than I've ever seen.

The Orion Nebula is incredible. Mike, what materials did you use? Oil pastel? Chalk?


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frank5817
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: Chopin]
      #5569809 - 12/13/12 07:36 PM

Mike,

You have 2 beautiful looking sketches there.
A 16 inch scope is a great scope to have under dark skies for observing and sketching.

Frank


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Andrev
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: frank5817]
      #5569863 - 12/13/12 08:12 PM

Mike

Your two sketches are simply fabulous and incredible. There is so much details. I can really feel I'm looking throught your scope.

Congratulation

Andre


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mike73
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Loc: UK Plymouth
Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: Andrev]
      #5570319 - 12/14/12 04:51 AM

Thankyou all for the comments.

Jason - I use the 'Melish technique' for sketching so its white pastels/pastel pencil and white ink pen.


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azure1961p
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: mike73]
      #5570751 - 12/14/12 12:02 PM

Beautiful work and among the best. It's a treasure when you see deep sky drawn accurately and representative of the difficult and elusive nature of the perception.

Pete


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JeanB
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: azure1961p]
      #5570992 - 12/14/12 03:06 PM

Two very fine pieces of work, Mike!

Your M42 is amazing!

Jean


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Michael Rapp
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: JeanB]
      #5571083 - 12/14/12 04:13 PM

Hi Mike,

Would you talk a moment about how to did the outer nebulosity of M42? What tools did you use to lighten it/blend it in places? Did you put the stars down first or after?


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mike73
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: Michael Rapp]
      #5571278 - 12/14/12 06:21 PM

Quote:

Hi Mike,

Would you talk a moment about how to did the outer nebulosity of M42? What tools did you use to lighten it/blend it in places? Did you put the stars down first or after?




Hi Michael
I think the best I can do is point you towards this tutorial which really helped me when I first started using pastels ( big thankyou to Alex for writing it up).

My M42 was simply done by brushing on thin layers of white pastel and then using a putty eraser to take some pastel off which helps with the wispy nebula look.
Stars are added last using either a pastel pencil of white ink pen.

I hope this helps a little? I've found that using pastels is an excellent technique for astro sketching.


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Michael Rapp
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: mike73]
      #5573086 - 12/15/12 07:53 PM

Thanks Mike! That and the tutorial link helps immensely. I will need to try this. I like the effect.

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Asbytec
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: Michael Rapp]
      #5573312 - 12/15/12 10:10 PM

Wow, the filaments in the Crab are really cool. I have never seen them visually and appreciate someone who can tease them out. Well done.

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John K
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: Asbytec]
      #5574035 - 12/16/12 11:49 AM

Great sketching!Nice work.

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Chopin
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: mike73]
      #5574388 - 12/16/12 03:51 PM

Quote:

Thankyou all for the comments.

Jason - I use the 'Melish technique' for sketching so its white pastels/pastel pencil and white ink pen.




Mike, thank you very much for the link to Alexander Massey's article at IceInSpace. I was not familiar with Scott Mellish. His method was simple and effective. I love it. Looks like I need to make another trip to the art supply store.


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kenrenard
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Reged: 12/13/12

Loc: Dunmore, PA
Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: mike73]
      #5576422 - 12/17/12 09:06 PM

This is very beautiful. I just started sketching to improve my observing skills with pencil. I just tried m42 the other night it's not easy to sketch. You are a true artist great work.

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Uwe Pilz
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Re: M1 and M42/43 new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5576702 - 12/18/12 01:02 AM

Real amazing sketches! Both are not easy to do if you want to cathc the subtle details.

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