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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: Jay]
      #5727040 - 03/11/13 10:40 PM

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Yes, I am handling this badly aren't I? I apologize for that. What I'd like to see are fewer absolutes in posts and more open minds. I'm starting to think that if posts were not delete-able then folks might write their comments in a more thoughtful way.

After waking up this morning and seeing so much criticism removed here, i snapped. Gotta walk away.

Sorry folks.

Jay

I guess, when I initially posted here I thought the conversation would go a different way. About how, sometimes, you can use a technology like photography to dig out details you might not have seen with your eyes in the field. I never got to explore that thought out and instead had to go into proof mode. I'm not cut out for forums i guess.




Jay,

You need to dial it down a little. We may be amateur astronomers but that doesn't mean we can't be skeptical about claims (after all--you can read anything on the Internet).

Your first image looked like a contrail (like many other sightings at the time). You were asked to provide a followup image for confirmation. You did. That should have been the end of the story.


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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: arellanon]
      #5727041 - 03/11/13 10:40 PM

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I'll be observing from 35.632877,-117.671943; hopefully I can capture some good shots from this location. I have some mountains to the west but where the sun sets the mountains are low from my point of view so my western sky is fairly clear. I took some snapshots last night but I can't seem to make out the comet. At least we will have a very young moon this week to help out in spotting the comet.






Is that RIdgecrest CA? I bet you will have a great view. Will you be using binoculars, telescope or just your camera?

It was in and out with the naked eye last night from the Southern California coast but easy to spot with 7x35's!

Good luck!

Jay




Yes it is! Hopefully I can catch some good shots. I will be sure to share if I can get some good shots.






Jeez I can't for the life of me seem to get a shot of it; I've shot 45 images between yesterday and today and no luck finding it; it does not help that Ridgecrest's skies are so salmon in color at dawn and dusk.



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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: Loren Toole]
      #5727042 - 03/11/13 10:41 PM Attachment (51 downloads)

Here's my submission for the "Lousiest Comet Photo of the Whole Lot so far" contest. Once I spotted it in 10x50 binoculars (no mean feat since I was located just 1/2 mile from downtown Dallas, and surrounded by lights) I just aimed the camera in the general direction and shot away...never spotted the thing once through my camera.

ISO 800, 1 sec. @ f/5 and heavily cropped.


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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: WStewart]
      #5727052 - 03/11/13 10:43 PM

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Here's my submission for "Lousiest Comet Photo of the Whole Lot so far" contest. Once I spotted it in 10x50 binoculars (no mean feat since I was located just 1/2 mile from downtown Dallas, and surrounded by lights) I just aimed the camera in the general direction and shot away...never spotted the thing once through my camera.

ISO 800, 1 sec. @ f/5 and heavily cropped.




Looking good; better than the stuff I'm shooting.



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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: WStewart]
      #5727064 - 03/11/13 10:53 PM

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Here's my submission for "Lousiest Comet Photo of the Whole Lot so far" contest.




imo, you did good under the conditions--and it's actually a good representation of what people might see with small binoculars. The several-minute exposures from the southern hemisphere are gorgeous, but yours would be more accurate used in a local paper to tell people what to look for.


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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: hottr6]
      #5727070 - 03/11/13 10:57 PM

Crikey! There are some great photos in this thread. I'll attach my cropped squint-and-click image, the comet sandwiched between cloud and pinyon-juniper. Not much to see, but in 7x50 binos the comet was quite a magnificent sight. The head is almost planet-like and quite bright.... bright enough to be seen with the naked eye at 1957 MDT. Only the head can be seen unassisted. With the binos, I think I can see brightening within the tail which in turn suggests structure... is this real??

Shane in gray-zone NM


Edited by hottr6 (03/11/13 10:59 PM)


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arellanon
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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: Special Ed]
      #5727109 - 03/11/13 11:19 PM

Good news is that tomorrow I will have the Moon to help me locate the comet, lol.



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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: arellanon]
      #5727124 - 03/11/13 11:29 PM

The comet was easily visible (Ventura County, CA)using 12x36 IS binoculars this Monday evening 3-11-13, between about 7:32 PM PDT and 7:45 PM, when trees on the horizon intervened. The nucleus+coma was bright, and the 1-2 degree tail was obvious.

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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: arellanon]
      #5727125 - 03/11/13 11:30 PM Attachment (40 downloads)

Here's mine.

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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: Jay]
      #5727154 - 03/11/13 11:43 PM Attachment (28 downloads)

Another. 75% actual size.

Edited by Jay (03/11/13 11:44 PM)


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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: hottr6]
      #5727201 - 03/12/13 12:08 AM

Adding few of my (lousy) tries.

I played with color/temp/histogram to show it better. Original is attached (hope all sizes are withing limits!




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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: Nile]
      #5727205 - 03/12/13 12:10 AM Attachment (24 downloads)

Oops! Attachment is missing above, trying here again.

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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: Nile]
      #5727207 - 03/12/13 12:10 AM

How many people have seen the comet naked eye? I'm getting impatient to see it on Wednesday, if the clouds finally clear up.

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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: Jay]
      #5727213 - 03/12/13 12:13 AM

I finally caught it tonight, perfectly clear skies but it still took me 20 minutes scanning with tripod-mounted 20x80 binos. Saw it at 0:55 UT about 7-8 degrees above local horizon. Once spotted it was possible to observe in 10x50 binoculars but it was not easy to see. I was not able to see it naked eye, probably due to 60-year-old optics.
The head or pseudo-nucleus was very compact, stellar for all intents. The tail was faint but pointed up and slightly south, I could see the tail widening with averted vision. The north-facing 'edge' of the tail seemed more distinct and the south-facing more diffuse. I saw no definite color in either head or tail, but sometimes thought it might have a yellowish tint. This may have been atmospheric refraction or wishful thinking. I definitely did not see any blue or green in either head nor tail. I hope set up a scope tomorrow night as this comet is bright enough to stand some magnification.
As to the "Jay controversy": for the record I said I was on the fence. Those who follow my posts know I am not usually a fence-sitter. This time I could see somethings that made me doubt the image was the comet and some things that made me think it was the comet. It turned out it was the comet, as Jay's images from the next night proved. I think this example is a good one of a good observation. The initial data was inconclusive, follow up confirmed the initial observation. I don't think anyone was wrong for initially doubting or believing it was the comet, but any accusations of fakery was out of line, as I saw no reason to doubt the veracity of the image or observation.
Clear skies and clean glass,
Mike


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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: krp]
      #5727216 - 03/12/13 12:14 AM

Just got my first real telescope Orion xt8 2 weeks ago. I was able to catch it before it disappeared over neighbors house. I used to steady pix attachment for the iphone and used an app called nightcap to get longer exposure. I took 2 sets of 8 shot bursts 2 seconds apart and made this .gif

http://makeagif.com/i/utQZ1V


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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: jasonskywalker]
      #5727230 - 03/12/13 12:22 AM

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Just got my first real telescope Orion xt8 2 weeks ago. I was able to catch it before it disappeared over neighbors house. I used to steady pix attachment for the iphone and used an app called nightcap to get longer exposure. I took 2 sets of 8 shot bursts 2 seconds apart and made this .gif

http://makeagif.com/i/utQZ1V




SO COOL!


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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: jasonskywalker]
      #5727231 - 03/12/13 12:24 AM

Here's mine from March 11th, 2013. I used a 200mm F/2.8 Canon camera lens and a Sigma 2X Teleconverter. I had the camera and lens riding on a CG3 clone GEM with a clock drive.


1 Sec


2 Sec


10 Sec

Click on each image for an enlargement.


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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: BillFerris]
      #5727267 - 03/12/13 12:49 AM

Comet PanSTARRS photographed from my back deck. - Bill in Flag



Details: Nikon D90, 300mm, f/5.6, ISO 800, 1/2-sec, cropped (3/14/13 at 7:14 PM MST)


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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) new [Re: BillFerris]
      #5727288 - 03/12/13 01:10 AM

Great pictures and comments on this comet. It doesn't look
favorable for getting a good look at this fuzz ball from up
here. I do note that it passes M31 by 2.5 deg on April 3.
That would be a fantastic wide field photo!

Thanks for your posts.

PJ


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Re: Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) [Re: canukLX90]
      #5727365 - 03/12/13 02:40 AM

A lot of great photos and observation reports. I couldn't find it by naked eye west of Dallas tonight. Will try again tomorrow with 50mm binos and a 110 refractor plus camera.

Props to Jay for the good photos and bucking the erroneous "expert" criticism. I'm jealous too, Jay. Looking forward to seeing more of your shots and hopefully getting a couple of my own to post.


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