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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: Starman1]
#5624686 - 01/15/13 03:49 PM
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Thanks Don!
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star drop
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: Tamiji Homma]
#5626108 - 01/16/13 12:28 PM
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Hi Jack,
You're welcome. Field stop size of ES25-100 was one of interest as well. I uploaded closeup ES25-100 photo of side-by-side with Nagler 31T5.
Regarding visual experience, I have nothing to add beyond Don described earlier. I agree with him in all accounts.
ES25-100 needs about 2.8mm Inward focus distance lesser than N31T5 but if your diagonal 2" holder hits bottom, you loose the advantage. It happened with Baader 2" diagonal. Astro Physics MaxBright was OK. I mean nosepiece went in all the way.
Field lens side, trying to show blue fuzzy field stop that people are talking about:
Eye lens side:
Upper body shot:
Tammy
There is a blue ring at the field stop for the 20, 14 and 9mm versions as viewed under similar conditions. It gets harder to see as the focal length decreases.
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MRNUTTY
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: star drop]
#5626203 - 01/16/13 01:26 PM
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Welp, I canceled the pre-order I had at one vendor and bought the ES100/25 from eyepiecesetc.com (thanks Don)! I just couldn't wait any longer!
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Doug Culbertson
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: MRNUTTY]
#5626217 - 01/16/13 01:40 PM
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Welp, I canceled the pre-order I had at one vendor and bought the ES100/25 from eyepiecesetc.com (thanks Don)! I just couldn't wait any longer!
Thank you! I've been dithering over that one eyepiece at Don's place for days now, but couldn't decide if I wanted to replace the 31mm Nagler. Nice to have the decision made for me.
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MRNUTTY
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: Doug Culbertson]
#5626256 - 01/16/13 01:59 PM
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LOL Doug! You should have said so earlier, I wouldn't have waited so long!
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Doug Culbertson
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: MRNUTTY]
#5626266 - 01/16/13 02:05 PM
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Well, I wasn't so sure that I didn't want it either!
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: star drop]
#5626531 - 01/16/13 04:31 PM
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Re: the shot showing the blue ring around the field stop - I feel like if the 31T5 was angled just slightly as is the 25 ES 100, the 31T5 might show the same blue ring?
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Starman1
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: MRNUTTY]
#5626739 - 01/16/13 06:24 PM
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Welp, I canceled the pre-order I had at one vendor and bought the ES100/25 from eyepiecesetc.com (thanks Don)! I just couldn't wait any longer!
And now I'm on back-order.  Seriously, though, my criticisms of this eyepiece, as seen in some of my prior posts, are really minimal. It seems to perform fine in the focuser, even though the 31 Nagler has a tad more field. It's not the bargain of the other 100s from ES, but it isn't dramatically over-priced, either.
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: Starman1]
#5627402 - 01/17/13 03:20 AM
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It's not the bargain of the other 100s from ES, but it isn't dramatically over-priced, either.
Soon, it'll not be $599, but $549. After a while, it'll be $499. Then christmas 2013 comes, and it gets on sale for $399!
Clear skies! Thomas, Denmark
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: Astrojensen]
#5627867 - 01/17/13 11:20 AM
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It's not the bargain of the other 100s from ES, but it isn't dramatically over-priced, either.
Soon, it'll not be $599, but $549. After a while, it'll be $499. Then christmas 2013 comes, and it gets on sale for $399!
I kind of doubt that they'll cut the price for this thing that much. My guess is that ES believes they have something that Televue doesn't and so they don't have to slash prices to pickup market share.
It looks like they're using the same pricing with the 9mm 120 degree eyepiece. Even coming from China these eyepieces must be pricey to manufacture.
These two eyepieces allow them to market themselves as starting to be innovators rather than just a company that makes knock-offs.
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faackanders2
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: Astrojensen]
#5629790 - 01/18/13 11:46 AM
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It's not the bargain of the other 100s from ES, but it isn't dramatically over-priced, either.
Soon, it'll not be $599, but $549. After a while, it'll be $499. Then christmas 2013 comes, and it gets on sale for $399!
Clear skies! Thomas, Denmark
Seems to be an ES trend to lower prices around XMAS, and to take advantage of initial release higher demand. But let's not forget part of pricing is due to economy and supply and demand. If the economy recovers ES has the option to end (or reduce) the sale. Ending a sale is different than raising the price, although the customer still pays more.
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: faackanders2]
#5629952 - 01/18/13 01:31 PM
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As a set of four you're looking at around 365 per ocular at the current prices. Around about where they should sit in this market(?).
Had the 25mm out for a quick (15 min...clouds) session two nights ago in lousy conditions. It's sharp and like the other three I've got to mash my eyeball right into the eyeguard which I like... no eye placement issues for me at least and no problems with the neighbors lighting that way either. A shadow transit on Jupiter looked good considering and M42 showed layering and more color than I usually pick up.... but this could easily be the CPC 11HD doing its thing.
Possible small window tonight before the next clipper drops the temps into the teens below zero for a week or so.
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MRNUTTY
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: herrointment]
#5630104 - 01/18/13 03:20 PM
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Yet another picture of our favorite ES100! Mine came today from EyepiecesEtc Thanks again Don!!
This one however had different packaging than my other ES100's!
A very cool hard board flip top boasting a star map of vicinity of the Milky Way Core This is THE BEST box I've ever got, almost better than the EP that came in it! In the future, if anyone buys this 2nd hand INSIST on the box.
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: MRNUTTY]
#5630235 - 01/18/13 04:36 PM
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Classy!
Jeez, lots of photos of the 25, but the crummy weather everywhere is causing a dearth of observing reports.
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Starman1
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: rockethead26]
#5630288 - 01/18/13 05:31 PM
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Of course it's cloudy.
Telescopes, especially new telescopes or telescopes with new eyepieces, emit moistons. Moistons cause the sky to cloud up as water molecules condense around the moistons. If enough moistons are emitted (many new scopes or eyepieces in one area), it will actually rain.
Only the full or near-full moon is bright enough to disperse the moistons, which explains why it's always clear at full moon.
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: Starman1]
#5630349 - 01/18/13 06:17 PM
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: MRNUTTY]
#5630570 - 01/18/13 08:54 PM
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Yet another picture of our favorite ES100! Mine came today from EyepiecesEtc Thanks again Don!!
That's some mighty fine looking glass you have there.
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: stratocaster]
#5630899 - 01/19/13 12:34 AM
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Hmmmm...moistons... Given the number of new scopes and eyepieces purchased by the denizens of <cloudynights.com>, not to mention the used stuff moving around here, it appears that we have met the enemy and he is...US. But if we stop buying, then our great nation will sink into oblivion, not to mention some of our most distinguished members (and our host!), so..buy on. Perhaps one day we will see the sky again. 
Dark skies
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: mountain monk]
#5631446 - 01/19/13 12:05 PM
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Never mind the stunning eyepiece, I must have that box!!!
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MRNUTTY
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Re: ES 25mm 100 AFOV Shipped
[Re: smallscopefanLeo]
#5631529 - 01/19/13 12:59 PM
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LOL! I guess the box is standard issue now :-) it is slick though compared to the old 'matte black instrument' style box.
Maybe that's why they're all back ordered; lead time on that crazy box!
Edited by MRNUTTY (01/19/13 01:01 PM)
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