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Bernie Skerl
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Remote desktop telescope control
      #5608557 - 01/06/13 02:43 PM

Is anyone using remote desktop to control their scope?

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terry59
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: Bernie Skerl]
      #5608743 - 01/06/13 04:16 PM

yes. I now have two setups so I switched to the Remote Desktop Connection Manager. Both are fine.

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johne
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: terry59]
      #5609681 - 01/07/13 06:53 AM

I use Remote Desktop to control everything in my roll-away observatory (except opening the doors and rolling it back/away and closing it back up.)

I'm running a mixture of Windows 7 Pro and XP Pro on my computers. For me, Remote Desktop works without any problems and has the best performance. I tried other remote access programs such as GoToMyPC, LogMeIn, UltraVNC, TightVNC and a few others), and what I had with all of those aps was jerky/slow screen updates. I wish I had the same experience as so many others using the free remote access programs. It just didn't work out for me.

The downside for Remote Desktop for Windows is the requirement for the "Pro" version of Windows 7 or XP.


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Lorence
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: johne]
      #5610467 - 01/07/13 03:45 PM

Quote:

I'm running a mixture of Windows 7 Pro and XP Pro on my computers. For me, Remote Desktop works without any problems and has the best performance. I tried other remote access programs such as GoToMyPC, LogMeIn, UltraVNC, TightVNC and a few others), and what I had with all of those aps was jerky/slow screen updates. I wish I had the same experience as so many others using the free remote access programs. It just didn't work out for me.




The freebees also have annoying access limitations as well as poor operating characteristics. Your not the only one that gave up on them. I suspect many of the freebee users around here have never used any commercial software. That's the only reason I can think why they keep recommending the free versions. One way or the other you end up paying for the software.

I'm using Net Support Manager. Might be interesting to compare it with Remote Desktop. Net Support has a rather large Client running at the remote computer. That is only an issue on the oldest of the PC's I have in the observatory. The graphics are very good compared to the free versions but not still not 100%. I guess there's some sacrificing for speed. I could live with a slower response time for 100% screen reproduction.


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Billydee
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: Lorence]
      #5610868 - 01/07/13 08:31 PM

Berine,

Read this Post. At the end it covers your subject in detail.

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5607987/page...

Luck, Bill


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Steve Drapak
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: Billydee]
      #5614775 - 01/10/13 12:37 AM

TeamViewer works well for me. It handles the OpenGL graphics that Remote Desktop doesn't, so I can see what Starry Night is doing on the remote machine.

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Charlie B
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: Lorence]
      #5614948 - 01/10/13 06:51 AM

Quote:

The freebees also have annoying access limitations as well as poor operating characteristics. Your not the only one that gave up on them. I suspect many of the freebee users around here have never used any commercial software. That's the only reason I can think why they keep recommending the free versions. One way or the other you end up paying for the software.





Actually, I gave up on remote desktop because it would not support Open GL. I do a lot of remoting into servers to run detailed simulations, but I needed something to support Open GL. I found UltraVNC supported my needs perfectly. It's also what I currently use for my remote setup and I've never had any problem with it.

I use both commercial and freeware and if the freeware does not do the job, I junk it. However, lots of freeware does an outstanding job. Look at all the ASCOM software, GNU software and graphics software.

Regards,

Charlie B


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shams42
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: Charlie B]
      #5615296 - 01/10/13 11:21 AM

I have had great success using LogMeIn.com

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morrisng2
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: shams42]
      #5615450 - 01/10/13 12:41 PM

I tried Splashtop and it is a great program. Basically, it treat your desktop graphics as video and simply stream the media to remote devices (PC, Mac, iOS, Android.) Very light in memory usage and it is fast (up to 30fps).

http://www.splashtop.com/home

The apps for the mobile devices does cost a few dollars if that is one of the consideration.

- Morris


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Charlie B
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: morrisng2]
      #5615906 - 01/10/13 05:14 PM

Splashtop looks very interesting. I think I'll give it a try.

Thanks,

Charlie B


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*skyguy*
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: Charlie B]
      #5615940 - 01/10/13 05:42 PM

I've used the freeware program, TightVNC for many years for telescope control. I get a full color, full screen refresh in around a second and it never crashes. I've been very happy with it.

I'd probably switch to Remote Desktop, but my observatory computer is only running Windows XP Home.


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Charlie B
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: *skyguy*]
      #5615962 - 01/10/13 06:01 PM

UltraVNC works fine for me for remote telescope control, even with framing and focusing. However, I'm always looking for something better.

Regards,
Charlie B


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korborh
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: Charlie B]
      #5616233 - 01/10/13 08:40 PM

I am giving Splashtop a try. The refresh rate is way better than RD ...which I really needed. Looking really good.

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raf1
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: shams42]
      #5619074 - 01/12/13 01:26 PM

Quote:

I have had great success using LogMeIn.com



+1


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Charlie B
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: korborh]
      #5619179 - 01/12/13 02:30 PM

I installed it, but when executing it required access outside my local network. I consider that a security problem and declined.

Regards,

Charlie B


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RandallK
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: Charlie B]
      #5619680 - 01/12/13 07:16 PM

I use Ultra VNC but I just tried Remote Desktop between my XP Pro Laptop and my Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit desktop machine and everything works fine as well.

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Charlie B
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: RandallK]
      #5619717 - 01/12/13 07:39 PM

My problem with Remote Desktop is that it is not available on the computers I use for astronomy. I do have it on my work computer and I does work good when there is no need for open GL graphics.

Regards,

Charlie B


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korborh
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: Charlie B]
      #5619819 - 01/12/13 09:18 PM

I found Splashtop taking significant CPU resources and that was unacceptable with autoguiding and other stuff running. I am sticking to RD.

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cavefrog
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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: korborh]
      #5621086 - 01/13/13 03:43 PM

a question for those using tightVNC...
can this be used without going across the net. like keep it in a LAN?

Theo

Edited by cavefrog (01/13/13 10:53 PM)


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Re: Remote desktop telescope control new [Re: cavefrog]
      #5621183 - 01/13/13 04:35 PM

I have been using Splashtop for over a year. I am very happy with it. I know it makes the remote computer sweat a little bit but that didn't caused me any ill effects so far. Besides, I am not staying connected all the time. Once I start my shooting sequence I come back home to spend some time with the family. Of course, my mind is at the scope. Once in a while I check if everything is ok, like whether the temperature has changed significantly or PHD is fooled by the clouds etc. Then disconnect. Update rates and connection speed is very good.

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