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Dave74
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5624044 - 01/15/13 09:22 AM

The Pleiades looks fantastic through my 60mm and the moon isn't half bad. But that's about it. I agree that a 60mm might discourage some beginners. It's what hooked me, though.

Edited by Dave74 (01/15/13 09:29 AM)


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BigC
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: Dave74]
      #5624289 - 01/15/13 12:12 PM

A 60mm with good glass and good eyepieces can do much more than just the Moon and Pleiades;today's amateurs are no doubt spoiled by the great scopes avasilable and also have huge expectations because of Hubble images .

It is amazing how much you can see with a small scope from a dark location once your eyes have had over an hour to adapt.The view in a 60mm 10 minutes after leaving the living room is nothing compared to an hour later.


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Jon Isaacs
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: BigC]
      #5624661 - 01/15/13 03:38 PM

Quote:

A 60mm with good glass and good eyepieces can do much more than just the Moon and Pleiades;today's amateurs are no doubt spoiled by the great scopes avasilable and also have huge expectations because of Hubble images .

It is amazing how much you can see with a small scope from a dark location once your eyes have had over an hour to adapt.The view in a 60mm 10 minutes after leaving the living room is nothing compared to an hour later.






I am of two minds when it comes to a department store 60mm refractor. I agree with Starhunter249, he did not recommend it nor I, the mounts are shaky, the finders are generally poor, the accessories like the eyepieces are adequate but marginal, the diagonals are most often a weak point.

But I also agree with BigC, even a department store 60mm can be a reasonable performer if one has a positive attitude and realistic expectations. I once tested and reviewed a Meade Telestar 60mm for the Emagazine Skywatch. (Fifty Dollars at Walmart.) I was able to detect the Crab Nebula from my urban backyard.

I recommend if you have a 60mm department store refractor, use it. If you don't have one, if you can afford a higher quality scope, spend the money, it's worthwhile. If a 60mm is what you can afford, go with it...

Jon


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csrlice12
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5624770 - 01/15/13 04:36 PM

Scopetime will get you thru times of no money better then money will get you thru times of no scopetime.........

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newtoskies
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5625082 - 01/15/13 07:57 PM

I was actually thinking of snatching up a cheap refractor from CL just for the fun of it. Would make a good quick peak scope and also for guests who want to see the moon or Jupiter....hands of my new baby 102.

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newtoskies
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5625088 - 01/15/13 08:00 PM

hah, just looked at CL and saw a Meade 60mm on EQ mount for $30...can't get cheaper than that.

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Jon Isaacs
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5625177 - 01/15/13 08:50 PM

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hah, just looked at CL and saw a Meade 60mm on EQ mount for $30...can't get cheaper than that.




I believe I found the ad in the local Boston CL. Looking at the link to the manual, it seems that the scope takes 0.965 inch eyepieces. In my experience, it's better to stick with scopes with 1.25 inch focusers, that way you can use the eyepieces and the diagonal you already have.

Jon


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newtoskies
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5625212 - 01/15/13 09:14 PM

Thanks Jon. The one I was looking at is in RI. Won't be getting a cheap scope right now. I want to buy some good ep's first.

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csrlice12
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5625972 - 01/16/13 10:46 AM

I'm afraid if I brought another scope into the house, even a cheap one; I'll be living in the shed with the scopes....Hmmm......readily available, shed's not too cold........

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1Old Timer
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5626092 - 01/16/13 12:12 PM

I'm brand new to this forum and have been surfing

around to see what is going on. This is my 1st post and

I'll try to attach a picture or two of a great find that

my wife and I made also at Good Will. A 10" f6, 2" thick

primary mirror, good mirror mount, spider with secondary

mirror, focuser and small finder all together on a well

crafted hand guided yoke mount entirely out of wood. No

significant tarnish on optics. Star tested--"Superbe"

The whole kit-n-kaboodle was stolen for $50.oo. I guess

the average Joe (nothing against you Joe's out there)

hasn't a clue as to what the contraption was. It was my

lucky day. I plan to take it apart and adapt it to the

beafy home made German eq. clock driven mount that I've

had a 6" on since I've been a teen ager in the 60's.
I could probably Ebay the parts and pieces on Ebay

and take a trip to where they have drinks with little

umbrellas. Na, Too old for that. Rather tinker.

I tried to post a picture but couldn't because its file is larger than what this editor will accept. Sorry.


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BigC
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: 1Old Timer]
      #5626119 - 01/16/13 12:38 PM

Now that is a great find!

And I'm so glad someone at Goodwill had the good sense to offer it for sale rather than decide it was useless junk.


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csrlice12
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: BigC]
      #5626124 - 01/16/13 12:42 PM

on the other hand....I walked into the local Goodwill store, and there was the regular 114mm reflector on the EQ1 mount---for $124....you could almost buy it new for that....

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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5626148 - 01/16/13 12:53 PM

I frequently stop buy all of my local thrift shops. I find that newer scopes (those that can be identified and found on the web) tend to be priced closer to actual retail. On the other hand (and much to my wife's dismay), classic scopes and home-made dobs tend to be undervalued.

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csrlice12
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: WaterMaster]
      #5626243 - 01/16/13 01:53 PM

I'm hoping to walk in to the Goodwill/ARC and find a Nice Takahashi or ES refractor for $20....but I'm not holding my breath for it........

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1Old Timer
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5626304 - 01/16/13 02:33 PM

You fellows are right about newer scopes commanding a higher value at thrift stores. Stick to the 1 1/4" eyepiece size. I have snatched a few 60-90mm no names and Meades, cleaned them up added a kellner 25mm etc. and resold on Craigslist which is another good source of scopes. There you can at least try to dicker for a reasonable price.

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1Old Timer
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: 1Old Timer]
      #5626452 - 01/16/13 03:58 PM Attachment (10 downloads)

I think I found a way of sending the picture of the 10" Newtonian Yoke Mount That had a file that was too large for this program to accept. Here we go??

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csrlice12
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: 1Old Timer]
      #5626495 - 01/16/13 04:13 PM

Wow, how much does that thing weigh??? Will that scope turn like if it had rotating rings (appears it might, even though it doesn't have "rings"). If not, that's gotta make for creative viewing positions. Nice looking though.

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newtoskies
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5626505 - 01/16/13 04:16 PM

wow very cool, and nice find.

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1Old Timer
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5626520 - 01/16/13 04:25 PM

It does have rotating rings. The optical tube weighs probably 35-45#. The mount is a bit more. Probably 60#. The polar X rotates on rubber caster wheels. The scope itself is easily lifted off of the yoke. The yoke is easily removed from the base. In all relatively portable. Easier to guide than a Dobsonian in my opinion as it is an equatorial mount.

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csrlice12
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Re: Wife found a telescope at our local Good Will. new [Re: 1Old Timer]
      #5626552 - 01/16/13 04:38 PM

Now THAT'S an EQ mount.....

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