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PeterDob
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Reged: 07/29/05

Loc: Castelnovo ne' Monti, Italy
M35 + NGC2158
      #5616682 - 01/11/13 04:33 AM Attachment (105 downloads)

This was a particularly difficult drawing because the field of view was obviously covered in stars. But I tried to capture what I saw as well as possible. I wasn't able to fully resolve the lovely companion of M35, probably because 85x is a bit too low for that. Also the drawing isn't exactly finished because at a certain point the moon started to rise above the horizon and to make things worse a thick cloud began to cover the entire sky. But I got most of it anyway.

Cheers,

Peter


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IVM
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Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: PeterDob]
      #5616937 - 01/11/13 09:52 AM

I like the softness of stars and field edges in general. In this case, on my screen the extent of the halos around the stars indeed looks like a patch of haze was passing.

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Andrev
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Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: IVM]
      #5617103 - 01/11/13 11:37 AM

Peter.

Very very nice. Beautiful.

Andre.


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Asbytec
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Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: IVM]
      #5617105 - 01/11/13 11:38 AM

What a striking view. Thank you for posting it.

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magnus
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Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: Asbytec]
      #5617726 - 01/11/13 06:24 PM

I am deeply impressed. Thanks for sharing!
/Magnus 57N.


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mdowns
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Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: magnus]
      #5617786 - 01/11/13 06:53 PM

Truly splenid!

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Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: mdowns]
      #5617805 - 01/11/13 07:07 PM

Peter,

Love it. It is a tough one and gets more difficult with increasing aperture and increasing transparency as you no doubt know.

Frank


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PeterDob
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Loc: Castelnovo ne' Monti, Italy
Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: frank5817]
      #5618389 - 01/12/13 02:21 AM

Thank you so much for your kind words! They mean a lot to me...:-)

Peter


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niteskystargazer
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Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: PeterDob]
      #5619087 - 01/12/13 01:35 PM

Peter,

Very good sketch of M-35 & NGC 2158 .

CS,KLU,

,

Tom


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Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: niteskystargazer]
      #5619996 - 01/12/13 11:16 PM

Awesome sketch. One of my favorite FOVs because of the contrast between the 2 objects. Thanks for sharing!

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Aquarellia
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Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: drbyyz]
      #5620166 - 01/13/13 03:47 AM

Wonderful Peter !
Looking at your stars, we can detect that you had some mist and moon.
Lovely.
Michel

Edited by Aquarellia (01/14/13 12:43 AM)


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Jef De Wit
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Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: Aquarellia]
      #5620492 - 01/13/13 10:48 AM



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JimPie
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Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: Jef De Wit]
      #5620886 - 01/13/13 02:11 PM

Peter.
Absolutely wonderful.


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Erik Bakker
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Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: PeterDob]
      #5623841 - 01/15/13 05:24 AM

Very nice sketch Peter,

I had a similar view in my 16" a view nights ago. Nice to see NGC2158 resolved into stars


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PeterDob
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Reged: 07/29/05

Loc: Castelnovo ne' Monti, Italy
Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: Erik Bakker]
      #5623902 - 01/15/13 07:23 AM

Heel erg bedankt, Erik!

It's nice to hear that someone's had a similar view in a similar telescope because it means that my impression wasn't that far off. As I said, I could hardly see individual stars in NGC2158 because 85x were a bit too few for that. But I did see some...

Thanks again to all of you.

Cheers,

Peter


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Chopin
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Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: PeterDob]
      #5623998 - 01/15/13 08:46 AM

The realism of the drawing is spectacular, Peter! Good for you to get what you can despite the limitation of conditions.

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Special Ed
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Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: Chopin]
      #5633153 - 01/20/13 12:55 PM

Peter,

I was just looking at this object last night and thought I had seen a recent post about it. Sorry to take so long to look at your drawing--you really did a fine job on it. Those arcing strings of stars in M35 really catch the eye.

I was much too intimidated by all the stars in this OC to attempt a sketch--hats off to you. NGC 2158 is more my speed--a hazy patch of light. I looked at it at 170x and it still looked like a hazy patch, but the 1st quarter Moon and very poor seeing were limiting factors. I suspect the stars you recorded in your sketch are foreground stars since 2158 is ~16,000 lys distant. What do you think?

Anyway, you have inspired me to sketch 2158 first chance I get. Thanks for posting your fine drawing.


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PeterDob
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Loc: Castelnovo ne' Monti, Italy
Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: Special Ed]
      #5633195 - 01/20/13 01:17 PM

Well, Michael, you do have a point. I did see some individual stars and those are the ones I drew. On the other hand, I haven't looked at it at high mags recently, but nevertheless I believe that resolving it is certainly doable, just like you can easily resolve globulars that are even further out. Next time (when hopefully the sky becomes clear again... it's been cloudy for a week here...) I'll try it at 150x-200x.

Cheers and thanks again for the kind words,

Peter


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Special Ed
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Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: PeterDob]
      #5634707 - 01/21/13 10:58 AM

Peter,

I have never studied NGC 2158 carefully (until now) but my guess too, is that under favorable circumstances and high enough magnification it should at least show granulation and perhaps resolve to stars. It is a very large and dense open cluster and was historically taken for a glob by some astronomers. More info here:
http://messier.seds.org/m/m035.html

I think I'll ask around in the DSO forum and see what people there have observed. Conditions here are clear but continue with poor seeing and moonlight so I think I'll wait until Luna begins to wane and have a high power look then.


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PeterDob
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Reged: 07/29/05

Loc: Castelnovo ne' Monti, Italy
Re: M35 + NGC2158 new [Re: Special Ed]
      #5634755 - 01/21/13 11:23 AM

This afternoon the sky over here cleared out and visibility is currently >10km. So that promises for tonight. But as you said, Luna'll be a restrictive factor. But on NGC2158 it shouldn't cause to many problems, at least to see whether it does resolve or not. I'll let you know!

Peter


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