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Chris5235
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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: bierbelly]
      #5610368 - 01/07/13 02:48 PM

May I suggest Tent Pole Weights. May work with some Para cord and make anchor points on the weight & tie down... Just a thought

here is a link

http://www.macsports-store.com/Canopy-Anchor-Kit-Set-of-6-Tent-Pole-Weights-p...

Edited by Chris5235 (01/07/13 02:56 PM)


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bierbelly
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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: Chris5235]
      #5610475 - 01/07/13 03:53 PM

Tent didn't cost that much...

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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: bierbelly]
      #5610667 - 01/07/13 06:24 PM

Hi, guys. I've watched the annual WSP thread develop with my usual over-salivation and envy.

Here's a good, cheap tent stake substitute. Go to Good Will or the equivalent and buy a bunch of non-plastic shopping bags, at maybe $.50 each. They pack into a small, lightweight bundle. When camping, tie your guy lines to the bags' handles and fill the bags with rocks, or I suppose even sand would work well.

Now, back to my regularly scheduled cold, clouds & rain.


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DeanS
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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: Spaced]
      #5610804 - 01/07/13 07:49 PM

Would not work well with the winds we had 2 years ago, brutal!

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crazyqban
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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: DeanS]
      #5610979 - 01/07/13 09:49 PM

I've always use the stakes that were provided with my tent and I have not had any issues.

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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: crazyqban]
      #5611584 - 01/08/13 09:33 AM

This will be my first time at WSP. Any suggestions about when to line up to get in on Monday morning? I am bringing a 4" refractor, and not doing astrophotography. Also, in looking at pictures of the WSP, some people use tarps on the ground under their equipment. Any pro/cons to a tarp? Are fire ants a problem on the observing field?
Thanks.


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bierbelly
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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: bakerman]
      #5611651 - 01/08/13 10:17 AM

Quote:

This will be my first time at WSP. Any suggestions about when to line up to get in on Monday morning? I am bringing a 4" refractor, and not doing astrophotography. Also, in looking at pictures of the WSP, some people use tarps on the ground under their equipment. Any pro/cons to a tarp? Are fire ants a problem on the observing field?
Thanks.




Fire ants are a problem all over the island. I think the tarps are more for avoiding the loss of items dropped in the dark. No reason to get in line before about 4pm Monday. (Don't want you in line ahead of me...).

Oh, and welcome to CN!

Edited by bierbelly (01/08/13 12:16 PM)


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Alvan Clark
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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: bakerman]
      #5612028 - 01/08/13 02:12 PM

Quote:

Any suggestions about when to line up to get in on Monday morning?




4AM if you want to be near the front of the line. With your setup, don't think it matters much. 4PM should work.


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bierbelly
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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: Alvan Clark]
      #5612032 - 01/08/13 02:15 PM

So that we CNers can identify ourselves at WSP, I propose that we all wear...pocket protectors!

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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: bierbelly]
      #5612344 - 01/08/13 05:11 PM

The Sheriff enforces the no parking along the road before set time. Look at the website so you don't get there too early and have to keep on driving. I think it is 6am?

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Cotts
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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: DeanS]
      #5612848 - 01/08/13 10:44 PM

The "cops will not allow anyone to line up before 6am" myth is alive and well, I see. Several people at the front of the line park there every year the night before and sleep in their cars!!! At my first WSP, six years ago I arrived sharply at 6am and was 35th in line! 35th!!!!! That 'rule' does not exist.

I would recommend to Bakerman that you get there mid morning at the very latest so as to have a good shot at a nice spot inside. 4pm is waaaaaay too late, especially if you don't know your way around the site as a first-timer. They have indicated to me that this year's WSP will have a much larger crowd than in the past few years (apparently the Chickees are sold out, 6 people to a Chickee this year, a level of crowding that I have not seen since I first attended in 2007) -see Sergio's post upthread....

Get there early and hang out in the lineup, meet some folks, get some advice from veterans on good places to set up.

Dave

Edited by Cotts (01/08/13 10:50 PM)


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Doc Willie
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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: Cotts]
      #5614082 - 01/09/13 04:54 PM

Since I am driving all the way down there, I would like to spend a few more days, either in FL or GA. Any suggestions for a dark astrofriendly site?

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Cotts
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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: Doc Willie]
      #5614267 - 01/09/13 06:45 PM

Hi, Willie. Bahia Honda State Park is right next door (under a couple of miles east... IIRC) You'd need your tent....

Also, PM sent.

Dave


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crazyqban
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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: Cotts]
      #5614692 - 01/09/13 11:21 PM

Bakerman, bring a bag or two of fire ant killer pesticide. Sprinkle it around your campsite or scope and you don't have to worry about the fireants.

Willie, you could visit the Deerlick Astronomy Village in Georgia or the Chiefland Astronomy Village in Florida. Both are great but Chiefland has more restaurants and and stuff to do around the area.


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BJS
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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: crazyqban]
      #5615717 - 01/10/13 03:18 PM Attachment (24 downloads)

I will be attending the WSP for the first time this year. I would like to know from those who have been there; what type of tent stakes work best? The "nail" style or the wider "military" style. See pictures to see what i am referring to.

Thanks, Brian


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BJS
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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: BJS]
      #5615718 - 01/10/13 03:18 PM Attachment (21 downloads)

Here is a picture of the "nail" style.

Brian


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crazyqban
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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: BJS]
      #5615758 - 01/10/13 03:45 PM

Brian, I have always used the stakes that came with my Coleman tent with no issues. If you go too deep you can run into super hard coral. When we setup the vendor tents this happens all the time and we need a jack hammer. This is when using commercial grade stakes that are really heavy, long and thick. You should be ok with either one of the ones that you posted but make sure you have a mallet or hammer to drive them in should you encounter some concrete hard coral.

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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: BJS]
      #5616162 - 01/10/13 07:51 PM

I think stout nail stakes are stronger and have a better chance of surviving if you are on coral rock. Bring a heavy hammer. The sheet metal stakes just buckle.
After dealing with the coral in the vendor area for ten years, I'm very happy to have graduated to a Sprinter van motor home.


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Doc Willie
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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 [Re: Howie Glatter]
      #5618165 - 01/11/13 10:45 PM

During really high winds, I found nothing that worked. There is only 4-6 in of soil, then you hit solid coral rock. My tent broke a strut. Two others ended up in the bushes somewhere. Jackhammer sounds like the best idea.

For me, chickee or I no go.


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Re: Winter Star Party 2013 new [Re: Doc Willie]
      #5618929 - 01/12/13 12:00 PM

Hi all,

I'm trying to evaluate my power needs for WSP at the observing site. Did I understand correctly that AC power is generally available provided I bring along my own extension cords? Are there areas that 'late comers' might get stuck with that won't have access to power? Should I plan on bringing extra batteries just in case?

Thanks,

Patrick


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