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Also the drawing isn't exactly finished because at a certain point the moon started to rise above the horizon and to make things worse a thick cloud began to cover the entire sky. But I got most of it anyway. Cheers, Peter Post Extras:       IVM scholastic sledgehammer Reged: 01/07/08 Loc: Western New York Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: PeterDob]       #5616937 - 01/11/13 09:52 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I like the softness of stars and field edges in general. In this case, on my screen the extent of the halos around the stars indeed looks like a patch of haze was passing. Post Extras:       Andrev Carpal Tunnel Reged: 02/08/11 Loc: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: IVM]       #5617103 - 01/11/13 11:37 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Peter. Very very nice. Beautiful. Andre. Post Extras:       Asbytec Guy in a furry hat Reged: 08/08/07 Loc: La Union, PI Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: IVM]       #5617105 - 01/11/13 11:38 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   What a striking view. Thank you for posting it. Post Extras:       magnus sage Reged: 03/17/04 Loc: Visby, Sweden Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: Asbytec]       #5617726 - 01/11/13 06:24 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I am deeply impressed. Thanks for sharing! /Magnus 57N. Post Extras:       mdowns Pooh-Bah Reged: 06/12/10 Loc: Englewood,FL Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: magnus]       #5617786 - 01/11/13 06:53 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Truly splenid! Post Extras:       frank5817 Postmaster Reged: 06/13/06 Loc: Illinois Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: mdowns]       #5617805 - 01/11/13 07:07 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Peter, Love it. It is a tough one and gets more difficult with increasing aperture and increasing transparency as you no doubt know. Frank Post Extras:       PeterDob professor emeritus Reged: 07/29/05 Loc: Carù, Italy Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: frank5817]       #5618389 - 01/12/13 02:21 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Thank you so much for your kind words! They mean a lot to me...:-) Peter Post Extras:       niteskystargazer Carpal Tunnel Reged: 10/05/09 Loc: 41-43'-28" N 87-42'-39" W Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: PeterDob]       #5619087 - 01/12/13 01:35 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Peter, Very good sketch of M-35 & NGC 2158 . CS,KLU, , Tom Post Extras:       drbyyz sage Reged: 11/04/12 Loc: Summerville, SC Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: niteskystargazer]       #5619996 - 01/12/13 11:16 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Awesome sketch. One of my favorite FOVs because of the contrast between the 2 objects. Thanks for sharing! Post Extras:       Aquarellia sage Reged: 10/27/12 Loc: Val d'Issole, Provence, France Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: drbyyz]       #5620166 - 01/13/13 03:47 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Wonderful Peter ! Looking at your stars, we can detect that you had some mist and moon. Lovely. Michel Edited by Aquarellia (01/14/13 12:43 AM) Post Extras:       Jef De Wit Carpal Tunnel Reged: 03/06/09 Loc: Hove, Belgium Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: Aquarellia]       #5620492 - 01/13/13 10:48 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Post Extras:       JimPie professor emeritus Reged: 11/10/07 Loc: S.E.Michigan Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: Jef De Wit]       #5620886 - 01/13/13 02:11 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Peter. Absolutely wonderful. Post Extras:       Erik Bakker Carpal Tunnel Reged: 08/10/06 Loc: The Netherlands, Europe Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: PeterDob]       #5623841 - 01/15/13 05:24 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Very nice sketch Peter, I had a similar view in my 16" a view nights ago. Nice to see NGC2158 resolved into stars Post Extras:       PeterDob professor emeritus Reged: 07/29/05 Loc: Carù, Italy Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: Erik Bakker]       #5623902 - 01/15/13 07:23 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Heel erg bedankt, Erik! It's nice to hear that someone's had a similar view in a similar telescope because it means that my impression wasn't that far off. As I said, I could hardly see individual stars in NGC2158 because 85x were a bit too few for that. But I did see some... Thanks again to all of you. Cheers, Peter Post Extras:       Chopin Canis Insanus Reged: 02/03/05 Loc: In the doghouse. Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: PeterDob]       #5623998 - 01/15/13 08:46 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   The realism of the drawing is spectacular, Peter! Good for you to get what you can despite the limitation of conditions. Post Extras:       Special Ed Postmaster Reged: 05/18/03 Loc: Greenbrier Co., WV 38N, 80W Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: Chopin]       #5633153 - 01/20/13 12:55 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Peter, I was just looking at this object last night and thought I had seen a recent post about it. Sorry to take so long to look at your drawing--you really did a fine job on it. Those arcing strings of stars in M35 really catch the eye. I was much too intimidated by all the stars in this OC to attempt a sketch--hats off to you. NGC 2158 is more my speed--a hazy patch of light. I looked at it at 170x and it still looked like a hazy patch, but the 1st quarter Moon and very poor seeing were limiting factors. I suspect the stars you recorded in your sketch are foreground stars since 2158 is ~16,000 lys distant. What do you think? Anyway, you have inspired me to sketch 2158 first chance I get. Thanks for posting your fine drawing. Post Extras:       PeterDob professor emeritus Reged: 07/29/05 Loc: Carù, Italy Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: Special Ed]       #5633195 - 01/20/13 01:17 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Well, Michael, you do have a point. I did see some individual stars and those are the ones I drew. On the other hand, I haven't looked at it at high mags recently, but nevertheless I believe that resolving it is certainly doable, just like you can easily resolve globulars that are even further out. Next time (when hopefully the sky becomes clear again... it's been cloudy for a week here...) I'll try it at 150x-200x. Cheers and thanks again for the kind words, Peter Post Extras:       Special Ed Postmaster Reged: 05/18/03 Loc: Greenbrier Co., WV 38N, 80W Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: PeterDob]       #5634707 - 01/21/13 10:58 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Peter, I have never studied NGC 2158 carefully (until now) but my guess too, is that under favorable circumstances and high enough magnification it should at least show granulation and perhaps resolve to stars. It is a very large and dense open cluster and was historically taken for a glob by some astronomers. More info here: http://messier.seds.org/m/m035.html I think I'll ask around in the DSO forum and see what people there have observed. Conditions here are clear but continue with poor seeing and moonlight so I think I'll wait until Luna begins to wane and have a high power look then. Post Extras:       PeterDob professor emeritus Reged: 07/29/05 Loc: Carù, Italy Re: M35 + NGC2158 [Re: Special Ed]       #5634755 - 01/21/13 11:23 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   This afternoon the sky over here cleared out and visibility is currently >10km. So that promises for tonight. But as you said, Luna'll be a restrictive factor. But on NGC2158 it shouldn't cause to many problems, at least to see whether it does resolve or not. I'll let you know! Peter Post Extras:       Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all) Previous   Index   Next   Threaded   Extra information 0 registered and 3 anonymous users are browsing this forum. 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