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Spacetravelerx
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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: WadeH237]
      #5826877 - 04/27/13 06:27 PM

Wade,

Do you have the TeleGizmos version for the 16"-18" Dobs and it covers a 14" with GEM? That would be great if it works because it is cheaper!


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WadeH237
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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: Spacetravelerx]
      #5827129 - 04/27/13 07:27 PM

The cover that I purchased is the Telegizmos 365 T34G.

The measurements on the cover are 90" in height and 115" circumference. This is replacing a very old Desert Storm Shield cover that was 80" high and 120" in circumference.

The old cover fit with lots of space to spare. I haven't had a chance to try the new cover on my scope yet, but will be heading to a dark sky site a week from today to spend the new moon week.

I did try a T34G on a C14 classic on a CGE Pro last year that I was helping someone with, and it fit well.

I hope this helps,
-Wade


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Spacetravelerx
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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: WadeH237]
      #5827253 - 04/27/13 08:18 PM

Wade,

Not to be picky, but I could not find the model you mentioned. I could find the TG4D that does match your description. Is this the model you mean?

https://www.astronomics.com/telegizmos-telescope-cover-16-inch-18-inch-dobson...


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WadeH237
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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: Spacetravelerx]
      #5827367 - 04/27/13 09:41 PM

No need for apologize. Specifics are good.

It looks like I mistyped the number. The TeleGizmos part number for the 365 Series is actually T34D (I got the G from a vendor part number). Your link above is for the standard cover.

I cannot find it on the Astronomics site. Here is a link for it from the vendor where I purchased mine.

Sorry for the confusion,
-Wade


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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: WadeH237]
      #5828316 - 04/28/13 01:07 PM

Quote:

I've never liked the SCT covers for my scopes on GEMs. For my C14, on either the CGE or AP mounts, I use the cover for 16" to 18" dobs.

This allows me to cover the scope all the way to the ground when it's parked on top of the mount pointed north.

-Wade




Me too. I use a 16-inch Dob Desert Storm whether for the C8 on a GEM or the NS11 GPS...


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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: ahopp]
      #5828940 - 04/28/13 07:18 PM Attachment (91 downloads)

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I also want to start doing some long exposure star shots to see how tracking is.

Tony




I use an AT12RC rather than a Meade OTA. I managed to get a little star time with it Friday night and grabbed one test image. Looks OK to me.

-edit- p.s. No deconvolution or any star shape manipulation; just median align, DDP, some noise reduction. There's a less compressed version here.


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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: jrcrilly]
      #5829134 - 04/28/13 09:15 PM

First light for your new mount, John? Looks pretty good!

David


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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: David Pavlich]
      #5829178 - 04/28/13 09:38 PM

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First light for your new mount, John?




I had powered it up one previous time but just to familiarize myself. Friday night I let it assist the drift alignment, self-adjust the guider, self-train and update the PPEC, and guide. Someone with zero experience could have done all that. Then I started an imaging capture sequence (not much smarts required there, either). Except for a quickie processing, it was an extremely low-effort grab; load was maybe 60 pounds (used 74 pounds of counterweights) and focal length was 2400mm. FWHM was only slightly higher than the 2 second focus images. I believe that this mount could really jump-start the learning curve for a newbie imager.

Edited by jrcrilly (04/29/13 01:22 PM)


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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: jrcrilly]
      #5829395 - 04/29/13 12:14 AM

i hope meade come back to where it use to be.

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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: davidh1979]
      #5829709 - 04/29/13 09:05 AM

John, you're starting to make me wish I'd bought one! Beautiful picture.

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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: Raginar]
      #5829728 - 04/29/13 09:20 AM

I ordered a custom TeleGizmo 365, worked with the manufacturer and we came up with a variation of the 14" model. Made it wider to accommodate the 80mm and starlock. It was only $50 more to do the custom piece.

Tony


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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: ahopp]
      #5829880 - 04/29/13 10:40 AM

Since there's a discussion about covers, I was a bit shocked at the prices when I looked into scope covers. So I went over to Walmart and bought a couple of these for $10.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Weber-22.5-Standard-Cover/10909633


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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: Lee Jay]
      #5829893 - 04/29/13 10:49 AM

Lee - you are using this on a 14" LX850?!?!? Does it fit?

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Lee Jay
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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: Spacetravelerx]
      #5830107 - 04/29/13 12:47 PM

Quote:

Lee - you are using this on a 14" LX850?!?!? Does it fit?




I am not. I'm using it on something else altogether. But there are many sizes and shapes available.


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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: Lee Jay]
      #5846117 - 05/07/13 05:21 PM

john I saw your recent may 1st shot on your blog...didnt look too go.

Any other updates? Had a chance to run some PE tests? Id love to see how this version compares to the first LX800 I had.


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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: JSnuff1]
      #5846405 - 05/07/13 07:15 PM

Quote:

Any other updates? Had a chance to run some PE tests? Id love to see how this version compares to the first LX800 I had.




No further updates. It's been here nearly a month and I've managed two sessions of a couple of hours each. This is why I stopped publishing equipment reviews; it just takes way too long to get the necessary hours in with the kind of weather we have here!

To recap - the first session was very encouraging but it was pretty windy the night of the second test and that caused problems; had to discard several frames. The OTA I'm using is a little lighter than the 14" LX850 OTA but I think it probably has a larger profile (slower primary = longer tube). The thing FEELS as solid as the NJP did so that mount might have had the same issues under the conditions but I'll need a few more sessions to properly characterize stability. Once I'm comfortable with how everything works I'll do some runs to quantify raw PE, corrected PE, and guide error. I just don't know when that will be...


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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: jrcrilly]
      #5846898 - 05/07/13 11:31 PM

John - How will you quantify the raw & corrected PR and the guide error? Using the Starlock Utility? Any other tools 100% compatible with the LX850 & Starlock to conduct the measurements?? I know there is PEMPRO, but does it work 100% with the LX850 (features disabled)?

JSnuff - The only thing I can relate with my 14" LX850 is visually the views are stunning (especially with the Meade UWA ep). Crayford focuser works fine. It tracked well the first night without starlock (I forgot to remove the covers!). Images/views unguided with the MallinCam were breathtaking. Basics seem to work as advertised. Problem right now is mother nature, which is of course impacting the learning and testing period, grrrr.

Next tests will be on my Canon 60Da and play with the Starlock utility. It won't be at the "pro" level yet since I do not have the filter wheel and the advanced monochrome cameras. I don't have as much time to do extensive testing and analysis right now. I will put my faith in John and Jason. Most of my initial testing will be more qualitative initially - does it work as advertised? In the mean time I will also have fun with it, just playing, learning and doing the big community outreach thing.

And yes, there is a use for it too in my line of work, but that will come later. Then there will be more extensive quantitative testing.


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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: Spacetravelerx]
      #5846904 - 05/07/13 11:40 PM

Quote:

John - How will you quantify the raw & corrected PR and the guide error?




I haven't looked at the Starlock utility; if there's something handy there I might use it. I generally just use Maxim/DL and my primary camera set up as a guider but with guide outputs disabled. Whatever errors are there, it will see. That setup doesn't care nor need to know what mount I'm using so it works on anything.


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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: jrcrilly]
      #5846983 - 05/08/13 01:02 AM

You don't even need to set up the camera as a guider if you are using PEMPro to measure PE. It's smart enough to figure things out on its own. I have used it with my main camera many times before with no issues.

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Spacetravelerx
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Re: LX850 14" setup " Whichwayis north" new [Re: Hilmi]
      #5847298 - 05/08/13 08:27 AM

PEMPro can "talk" to the LX850 - and understand the signal from it?

Same with Maxim/DL?

Essentially their are drivers for both applications? ASCOM drivers?


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