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newtoskies
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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's arrrived. new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5646392 - 01/27/13 04:35 PM

woohoo it's about 29 degrees with a slight cold breeze....BUT clear skies. I have my 6" dob on the patio awaiting the darkness which will be upon us soon. I have my EP case at the ready, same with warm clothing. I'm really looking forward to trying out these two ep's with the dob. I had considered using the XLT102 but I really want to see M42 with the dob to compare with the ep's I had used before on M42. The moon and Jupiter are also on the list of must see's. I will also use my barlow on the moon and Jupiter, along with the TMB 9mm w/wo barlow.
Since it's full moon it will be too bright for any DSO observing and I'll wait for darker skies for that. Will post an update first light with the 12 and 18 ED's.


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rflinn68
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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's arrrived. new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5646440 - 01/27/13 04:54 PM

I'm wondering how these compare to the TMB Planetary II eyepiece. I still need a 7 and 8mm and see that the Paradigm Dual ED comes in a 8mm. I was thinking about getting the 5mm but I got it in the TMB instead with the sell going on at Astronomics for $40. I've been wanting to try one of these out. Are they as good? Better? Same as the TMB Planetary II?

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newtoskies
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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's arrrived. new [Re: rflinn68]
      #5646500 - 01/27/13 05:31 PM

I just had a quick peak with the TMB even tho it's not quite dark yet. really great view with the 9mm TMB. Two clear dark bands as well as faint dark north and southern regions.Could see three dark bands easy. This was with and without the barlow. Mag was over 200 and she gave clear views. Once it gets dark I'll have another look see.
The 12mm got a quick looks see as well. Very clear view of the two main dark bands as well as a faint band.
I will wait another 45 min when it is darker to view again. The moon will be up over the hill and trees in about an hour or so, will view and take a pic of it with the ED's.


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newtoskies
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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's arrrived. new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5646504 - 01/27/13 05:32 PM

oh yeah I saw that the TMB's are on sale and was very tempted to buy the 6mm.

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newtoskies
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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's arrrived. new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5646781 - 01/27/13 07:40 PM

Since the moon isn't up high enugh yet, I thought I'd post a quick update on the 12 and 18 paradigm ED's. All I can say is Fantastic. A short list of my targets from the short session..M52, M36-38, NGC 884 & 869.

For each target I first used the 12mm (200x / 100x) with and then without 2x barlow..same with the 18mm ( 132x / 66x).

M52 is a very nice cluster that I had problems finding before, and only managed to view it once before. I found M52 with no problems this time using first 12mm w/o barlow. Overall a nice black field with pin point stars. With the barlow I counted nearly 2 dozen stars, just a bit more than without. Next the 18mm. With this ep more stars were in the fov and again a nice dark background for the many pin point stars. Was quite amazed at the view of M52. Will have to come back to this cluster again soon.

Next my favorite bino cluster..actually a double cluster ..NGC 884 and 869. Same routine as with M52, very black field with pin point stars to the edge of field...very impressive. After using the 12mm the 18 gave an incredible view, both clusters in the same field of view, except maybe a few stars that didn't make it in. I spent a lot of time with the 18mm w/o barlow on the double. There were many more stars in the clusters than I had previously viewed before, like looking at an image out of a magazine.

M36-38 were the same great views as the other clusters. My favorite has to be the views with the 12mm but for the double cluster the 18mm rocks. These ep's are very much worth the the money spent. I am considering buying another one, maybe two.
Hoping to get up real early and if it's still clear skies then a look at Saturn. Going out for dinner now to put some nice warm Greek food in my empty stomach. More on the ep's soon.


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drbyyz
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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's arrrived. new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5646785 - 01/27/13 07:44 PM

Glad to hear you are enjoying them. I was hoping to get my 12mm a little work in on Jupiter and the moon last night but seeing was just too bad. Even using my 20mm was pushing it. Yuck. Go away jet stream!

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GOLGO13
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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's arrrived. new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5647044 - 01/27/13 10:05 PM

Sounds good! Glad they are working well for you. I may have to give one a try sometime.

Glad you finally had some clear skies as well.


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Paco_Grande
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Reged: 07/14/12

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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's arrrived. new [Re: rflinn68]
      #5647107 - 01/27/13 10:40 PM

Quote:

I'm wondering how these compare to the TMB Planetary II eyepiece.




I have the entire line of the AT's and bought the TMB's to fill in between the AT 8 and 5mm. Not parfocal with the ATs but similar in performance. Honestly, I like the AT's better but the TMB's are in a solid second place.


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newtoskies
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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's - comparison test new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5669134 - 02/08/13 02:02 PM

I know this thread may be old news but thought it may be helpful for others like myslef who want to expand there range of inexpensive ep's.

Since we are getting a blizzard this weekend I went and bought a few magazines to have something to read and pass the time. Long story short, I bought the Jan. issue of Sky at Night and in there they tested inexpensive Plossls. Amount these were the Paradigm ED 15mm, but labeled Starguider ED. This is basically the same as the paradigm ED ep's that I bought in 12 and 18mm.
The Ed was the Group Test Winner. They had some very good things to say about these ep's, which I knew from my first light with them. So the 15mm will go on my list of ep's to buy next, along with the GSO 15mm Plossl. Why two 15mm ep's! Well the GSO is 52 degree and the Ed is 60. I like the 50-52 range for planets and the moon, especially when barlowed.
just thought I would pass this along to anyone else interested in these ep's. A very nice ep at a good affordable price...I like that best. I will try to get a pic of the article posted later today.


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Eric63
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Reged: 06/16/12

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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's - comparison test new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5669211 - 02/08/13 02:47 PM

I received the 15mm Paradigm from Canadian Telescopes a few weeks ago but have not had a chance to test it yet. I just noticed however the CT does not carry Astrotech products anymore so I will have to find a new Canadian vendor

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lamplight
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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's - comparison test new [Re: Eric63]
      #5669350 - 02/08/13 04:24 PM

Really great! Hmmm...

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Eric63
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Reged: 06/16/12

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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's - comparison test new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5669387 - 02/08/13 04:40 PM

Rob, is the Paradigm also not the same as the Orion Ed? They seem quite similar.

Eric


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newtoskies
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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's - comparison test new [Re: Eric63]
      #5669433 - 02/08/13 05:06 PM

hm, got me there. I don't know the Orion one and haven't seen it on there website or catalog.

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Eric63
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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's - comparison test new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5669454 - 02/08/13 05:20 PM

It's the Orion Epic II Ed. It looks identical to the paradigm. Unfortunately it's 20$ more than the paradigm up here.

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lamplight
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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's - comparison test new [Re: Eric63]
      #5669537 - 02/08/13 06:14 PM

Jeeze..,I have the 12mm and 25.. Seems weird to get the 15 being so close to the 12.. They only reviewed that size (15mm)? I was kind of leaning towards an 18mm .

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Kon Dealer
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Reged: 01/05/11

Loc: Cambridge UK
Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's - comparison test new [Re: lamplight]
      #5669610 - 02/08/13 06:50 PM

I have the 15,12,8 and 5mm BST Explorers (UK equivalent). I have to say I find them very good. Why anyone would want to pay 5X more for TV EP escapes me.
More money than sense?


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WaterMasterAdministrator
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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's - comparison test new [Re: Kon Dealer]
      #5669624 - 02/08/13 07:03 PM Attachment (8 downloads)

I bought the whole set from astronomics for my 80mm. I love them.

Edited by WaterMaster (02/08/13 07:04 PM)


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Paco_Grande
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Reged: 07/14/12

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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's - comparison test new [Re: WaterMaster]
      #5669905 - 02/08/13 10:29 PM

Quote:

I bought the whole set from astronomics for my 80mm. I love them.






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IcecreamLtDan
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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's - comparison test new [Re: WaterMaster]
      #5671363 - 02/09/13 08:17 PM

Quote:

I bought the whole set from astronomics for my 80mm. I love them.




Nice, I like my 8mm and plan on getting more, anyone got a 12mm they want to sell?


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Paco_Grande
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Re: 18 & 12mm Paradigm Dual ED's - comparison test new [Re: IcecreamLtDan]
      #5671483 - 02/09/13 09:57 PM

You can't pry it out of my dead hands.

Astronomics has the 12mm in stock per the website. Get it! Just like the ES82's are a bargain at their price point, the Paradigm Duel EDs are a real bargain.


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