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Dennis Sakva
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Reged: 10/19/04

Loc: Kiev, Ukraine
Re: I order an Orion ODK 20" , (the first product) new [Re: totolesbaloches]
      #5159062 - 04/06/12 11:51 AM

Not to scare everyone but here is a discussion of optical quality of three 16" ODK... Double pass. Scary...

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.astronomy.ru%2Fforum%2Findex.php%2Ftopic%2C92275.msg1813013.html%23msg1813013


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seryddwr
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Reged: 02/19/10

Loc: La-la land.
Re: I order an Orion ODK 20" , (the first product) new [Re: Dennis Sakva]
      #5159162 - 04/06/12 12:46 PM

Ouch!

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wz2
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Reged: 07/30/10

Re: I order an Orion ODK 20" , (the first product) new [Re: seryddwr]
      #5159553 - 04/06/12 05:23 PM

Well, it was a pretty good biff until the mods locked 'er down. My favorites quote:

SLODAR - this is not the task of looking at blondes at the beach, and ODK 20, in this case, not a means to Flooding the APOD

Chris


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totolesbaloches
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Reged: 08/22/08

Loc: France
Re: I order an Orion ODK 20" , (the first product) new [Re: wz2]
      #5159855 - 04/06/12 09:07 PM

that why i will go directly to a optic tester compagny, this compagny test lot of scope , planewave , officina .... with some time, another strange result

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totolesbaloches
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Reged: 08/22/08

Loc: France
Re: I order an Orion ODK 20" , (the first product) new [Re: totolesbaloches]
      #5637642 - 01/22/13 08:04 PM

Hello

i give you new of my Order.

The ODK was delivre begin of may, and i gone to Airylab ( www.airylab.com ) to test optic.

OOuk promise me LV/4 PV with 45kg, i receive a telescope at 62 kg and see the test :



You can see the serious of this compagny !
OOuk propose to pickup the scope and remake a miror, i wanted refuse, but my lawyer advised me to accept.

So OOuk take back this "*BLEEP* scope" and delivre me 2 month after (july), i tested again with Aitylab



But the miror have only astigmatisme , no spherical error, no coma. We see that the miror is just maintained by center NO MIROR CELL. this astig can be corrected by a cell

I decided to not send back this scope and to remake all mecanic with a more more professional compagny, SKYMECA ( www.skymeca.com ), we decide to build a miror cell 18p in INOX,


and to maintained by center but with a kneecap on CG


you can see all mecanic change here : http://www.felopaul.com/skymeca.htm

with the cell 18p see the optic test :


and the scope in my observatory :


the shroud was not the best choise , so i decide to do this with carbon fiber



Since November (finish mecanic) no star on the sky, no first light on this time

I will give you news when the weather will be better

to conclude : you aderstand that if someone ask me my point of view of OOuk , i will not be friendly !


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chboss
professor emeritus


Reged: 03/24/08

Loc: Zurich Switzerland
Re: I order an Orion ODK 20" , (the first product) new [Re: totolesbaloches]
      #5638039 - 01/22/13 11:44 PM

Quite shocking that they were delivering the scope in this condition.
Looks like you were their Alpha Tester (a Betta would be better than what they sent to you)...

Great redesign, however I wonder why you did not just return the scope to them and buy something else.

best regards
Chris


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totolesbaloches
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Reged: 08/22/08

Loc: France
Re: I order an Orion ODK 20" , (the first product) new [Re: chboss]
      #5638195 - 01/23/13 02:22 AM

go in justice, pay a lawyer, wait how long time to see my money back ? Order what ?

It's the firts product, so i had good price, with this money back , i can pay 16" only like Officina or RCOS (more small)
and when i see the quality of this optic without astigmatism, with my friend of Skymeca , we know that it's easy to remake the mecanic, optic not !

The main difficult, is to have a good optic DK ! i don't want a RC F/8 or 9 . Planewave, i see also bad scope test with bad optic, or with fix primary too, can ne be collimate...

So i had good optic 20" DK F/6.8, the mecanic costed me nothing, taked 2 month (week end).


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chboss
professor emeritus


Reged: 03/24/08

Loc: Zurich Switzerland
Re: I order an Orion ODK 20" , (the first product) [Re: totolesbaloches]
      #5639624 - 01/23/13 09:57 PM

Well this is of course a good argument.
If at least the price was right everything calculated.
I hope to see some images when you start using the scope.

Thank you and bonne chance!
Chris


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