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jkaiser
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Big thanks for previous info on Z10
      #5640416 - 01/24/13 10:53 AM

Hello all, I just wanted to thank you all for the advise about the Z10 earlier this week. Also I did place my order this morning for a Zhumell Z10 and I also just purchased a Celestron xlt 102 this morning. I been saving quite a while to make these 2 purchases.I feel like a little kid at Christmas. Again thanks.

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csrlice12
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: jkaiser]
      #5640432 - 01/24/13 11:01 AM

Christmas...that'll be just about the time the clouds will clear..........


Congrats. I have a similar setup and love both the scopes...


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newtoskies
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5640500 - 01/24/13 11:41 AM

Good to hear you ordered the scopes. I'll get the EP mag charts done up for you tonight. Let me know what else you might need.

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Gary Riley
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5640973 - 01/24/13 04:03 PM

Congratulations! I believe you will really enjoy using these! A 4 inch refractor is a nice companion to a larger dob.

Happy stargazing!
Gary


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newtoskies
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: Gary Riley]
      #5640989 - 01/24/13 04:23 PM

Hey John, if you look at the members signatures you'll see why it was hard to find a 10" dob or the XLT 102....lololol It's the 10-102 gang..lol

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jkaiser
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5641990 - 01/25/13 06:41 AM

LOL...Dob should be at her new home on sat...Just waiting for the status of the 102. Strange though if I dont get the 102 by sat and it is only 4hrs away in NY and the dob is coming from Nebraska and I get that first? whats wrong with this picture?...lol

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lamplight
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: jkaiser]
      #5642024 - 01/25/13 07:19 AM

Congrats John. I should start buying two scopes at a time and save myself the anguish. Good call!

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howard929
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: jkaiser]
      #5642224 - 01/25/13 09:49 AM

Forgive me for seeming stogie and contrite. Buying 2 telescopes as the first telescope? Really? How come, because you notice certain others doing that?

(the stogie part) What's wrong with buying one telescope, learning how to use it, what to and how to observe. Spending a year or so learning some of the in's and out's of this hobby. Then move forward with some knowledge behind future buying decisions. You know who rushes in and IMHO, slow and steady pays off much better in the end with many less sell offs of knee jerk bought equipment.


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wky46
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: howard929]
      #5642234 - 01/25/13 09:58 AM

I think ya done good! So who cares if you bought two telescopes, it's your money. They compliment each other well and it gives a little variety. Now go get a pair of binoculars to make a Holy Trinity. Then you can really give some folks reason to criticize, sheeze

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howard929
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: wky46]
      #5642254 - 01/25/13 10:06 AM

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I think ya done good! So who cares if you bought two telescopes, it's your money. They compliment each other well and it gives a little variety. Now go get a pair of binoculars to make a Holy Trinity. Then you can really give some folks reason to criticize, sheeze




And you Sir. Did you, with 3 days into this hobby, buy your TV's (ok, just one of them) before your first telescope arrived?

Edited by howard929 (01/25/13 10:08 AM)


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csrlice12
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: howard929]
      #5642270 - 01/25/13 10:20 AM

Normally Howard, I'd agree with you; but in this case, the OP did state he had been saving up for this for quite a while. I don't know what all research he did before deciding on these particular scopes (and overall he made some pretty good decisions). Looking at the guy's bio, he's into science and astronomy and rocketry; and his job is pretty techie (I know guys like this at Lockheed, most of them are whiz-kids, highly intelligent and educated). On the other hand, should he decide this hobby's not for him, he can always sell that equipment at minimal loss. Also, he bought two very complimentary scopes; it's not like he bought a 16 and 24" Dobs

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wky46
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: howard929]
      #5642274 - 01/25/13 10:21 AM

No, because I didn't have the money. My first purchase when I did have the money, cost quite a bit. As I said, it's his money. If later he decides it's not for him he can do what he wants with it. Let me ask you something, why didn't you just make your own thread about your feelings instead of second guessing his purchase? ..Phil

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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: wky46]
      #5642293 - 01/25/13 10:33 AM

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No, because I didn't have the money.




Is that really why? Certain wasn't in my case. However, I do agree that the time for questioning the wisdom of the acquisition(s) is past.


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newtoskies
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: dpwoos]
      #5642370 - 01/25/13 11:22 AM

Hey guys, let me fill you in a bit and speak for John, until he can comment himself.
John is the one who got ME into the hobby last year. He has a small scope, has been a reader of S&T for years and had a refractor years ago. So basically he's not just starting out like I did.
As for deciding on the two scopes he bought. John has used both my scopes, 6"dob and XLT102, and we have talked about different scopes. he just didn't have time to post here on CN and actually signed up some time ago, and lurked before that.
He saved the money and knew what he wanted to get and since it was a one shot deal, why not. I am doing the same thing, getting what I need and know I will be all set for a while. I don't know when I will get a chance to buy more accessories again.
If you read all the beginner ' what scope to start with' threads you will see that lots of people say to start with an 8 or 10" dob, and that is what he's doing. As for the XLT102, well like me, John fell in love with it when he saw and observed with it this past weekend. It is a beauty of a scope.

I am sure John will jump in here and add more to this when he gets off work.


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csrlice12
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5642392 - 01/25/13 11:35 AM

Congrats to both you and John. These scopes will give you years of viewing pleasure. Like you, I started out in this a little over a year ago. Like most, I've not got an unlimited source of funds, so I have to watch what I spend money on. Before I bought my first scope (the 10XTi), i searched this site and others and did a lot of online research doing comparisons, etc...before I plopped down the money (it also helped to have a local scope store who also provided me a lot of information). I actually "looked around" for about 3-4 months before I bought the scope. Same with eyepieces. Everything in my sig I have bought since I started and still have. Truthfully, I don't feel I've done very badly; the only piece of equipment I truely regret buying was the Orion Trimag....everything else, I still use. Do I have the best of everything? No. Do I have the worst of everything? No. But I'm happy with what I got, and I guess, bottom line, that's all that matters. One reason I'm buying a lot now is that I will be retiring in 2-3 years; and won't be able to afford premium equipment, So I'm getting what I can now (maybe not premium, but good enough for me). I guess, as long as you are happy with what you got, that's all that matters.....Clear Skies All...I gotta go look at some clouds...

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wky46
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: dpwoos]
      #5642424 - 01/25/13 11:54 AM

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No, because I didn't have the money.




Is that really why?


Yes.... and I don't follow your logic behind that question. I was hooked over 40 yrs. ago after my first view of Saturn through a 60mm dept. store refractor. Spent years with Astronomics catalogues and S&T's and in the meantime I could only afford inexpensive telescopes but I knew from reading those that I needed something bigger albeit, a more expensive telescope. Fast forward 20+ yrs. I finally had a job where I could afford to upgrade from my 60mm and 70mm's and decided on a 10" SCT. I knew even then I wanted bigger but economics got in the way and still does. If JKaiser asked me personally what to get for a first scope, I would have suggested a 12" to 14", but that's just me.

Edited by wky46 (01/25/13 12:00 PM)


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dpwoos
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: wky46]
      #5642462 - 01/25/13 12:11 PM

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No, because I didn't have the money.




Is that really why?


Yes.... and I don't follow your logic behind that question.




I think that for many beginners it isn't a lack of money but rather a lack of knowledge that mostly determines a first acquisition. That is why many folks here recommend starting out slowly and inexpensively, as then the beginner can figure out FOR THEMSELVES what they want and need. I bet that most folks here would agree that happiness and success in doing amateur astronomy is mostly about knowledge, and less about how much money you spend or how much stuff you have. Of course, maybe not.


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lamplight
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: dpwoos]
      #5642504 - 01/25/13 12:38 PM

Anyways...

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newtoskies
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: dpwoos]
      #5642509 - 01/25/13 12:42 PM

Actually John was considering a 12 or 14" Dob. That would have been too much to start with I think. Besides, where he lives even a 6" will give great views. I couldn't believe all the stars and constellations I was able to see there that I cannot see here where I live. He has a great 360 degree view of open skies with next to no LP. Right down the road a bit is an observatory. I think the 10" is more than plenty for his dark skies.
I have a feeling we'll be building a small observatory at his place the summer...lol


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Dave74
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Re: Big thanks for previous info on Z10 new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5643050 - 01/25/13 05:47 PM

Welcome to cloudy nights, jkaiser. I have the AD10 and I love it, I'm sure you'll enjoy your Z10. It's been to cold and windy for me the past few nights though.

I look forward to your first light reports on both scopes.

I think the biggest dilemma with two scopes would be finding the time to use them both. I'm sure there will be plenty of dark sky weekends when you'll be glad you have them, though.


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