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Kildar13x
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Reged: 07/06/11

Loc: Maine
Z12 First light finally
      #5641193 - 01/24/13 06:19 PM

Well I finally got my Z12 out last night. It was the first clear night that I was actually able to get out, even though it was -20f without the 20mph windchill Anyways I aligned the finderscope up and pointed her towards M42 with my 32mm ep and was just taken aback. It was the best view I have ever seen of M42, it was so bright and there was so much detail I never saw with my C6. I staired in awe at this for awhile until my eyelash froze to the ep and I decided enough was enough, I have been battling the flu for about a week now. But man I am amazed with the view of M42. I can't wait to get out and try to grab some galaxies. I just ordered a Telrad, the finderscope that came with the Z12 was not very reliable. I am looking into getting some of the Explore Scientific 82 series as well. I just bought better collimation springs as well. I feel like I am well on my way to becoming even more obsessed with this hobby.

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starman345
Wait, I'm Thinking
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Reged: 07/06/10

Loc: New Brunswick, Canada
Re: Z12 First light finally new [Re: Kildar13x]
      #5641256 - 01/24/13 06:57 PM

Galaxies will be no problem with that scope. Congrats on finally getting it under the stars. You are braver than I, I'm not far from you and these temperatures with the high winds are just too much for me to venture outside. Good luck with your new toy.

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Kildar13x
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Reged: 07/06/11

Loc: Maine
Re: Z12 First light finally new [Re: starman345]
      #5641269 - 01/24/13 07:07 PM

Ya I did feel a little crazy being out there. Especially having my eyelash freeze to the ep haha. Next week though we will be back into the 40's though. Have to love the weather up here!

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coopman
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Reged: 04/23/06

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Re: Z12 First light finally new [Re: Kildar13x]
      #5641643 - 01/24/13 10:23 PM

Thanks for the report. Glad that you had 1st light, but wow, that is some kinda cold there! There really is something to that "Aperture is King" saying.

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dennyhenke
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Reged: 09/07/12

Loc: Fredericktown, MO
Re: Z12 First light finally new [Re: coopman]
      #5641769 - 01/25/13 12:06 AM

WOW. I've spent many nights... nearly 100% of the clear nights we've had in the past 3 months outside, most sessions 3-4 hours minimum, many nights in the 20s but you my friend deserve some sort of award!! -20 before the windchill!!

Glad you had your first light and M42, what a great choice to start with! I'll add that I have two of the ES82 series, the 11mm and 18mm and they are both fantastic. If I'd not already purchased a couple Orion EPs I would have just purchased all of them from ES.

Enjoy your new scope!


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Sean Puett
Carpal Tunnel
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Reged: 09/06/10

Loc: always cloudy, washington
Re: Z12 First light finally new [Re: dennyhenke]
      #5643129 - 01/25/13 06:41 PM

A Z12 is no slouch on planets. Some of my best views of Jupiter and Saturn have been with my Z12. I finally upgraded the focuser and I get so much enjoyment from my time spent using this scope that I believe I'll have my Z12 until I can't lift it anymore. Well, at least until I can't convince my son to do it for me anymore:-)

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panhard
It's All Good
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Reged: 01/20/08

Loc: Markham Ontario Canada
Re: Z12 First light finally new [Re: Sean Puett]
      #5643205 - 01/25/13 07:24 PM

Quote:

Anyways I aligned the finderscope up and pointed her towards M42 with my 32mm ep and was just taken aback. It was the best view I have ever seen of M42, it was so bright and there was so much detail I never saw with my C6.


I told you that it would blow your socks off.

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Billytk
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Reged: 04/22/12

Loc: Lake Mary, Fl.
Re: Z12 First light finally new [Re: dennyhenke]
      #5643488 - 01/25/13 10:30 PM

Quote:

WOW. I've spent many nights... nearly 100% of the clear nights we've had in the past 3 months outside, most sessions 3-4 hours minimum, many nights in the 20s but you my friend deserve some sort of award!! -20 before the windchill!!
Glad you had your first light and M42, what a great choice to start with! I'll add that I have two of the ES82 series, the 11mm and 18mm and they are both fantastic. If I'd not already purchased a couple Orion EPs I would have just purchased all of them from ES.

Enjoy your new scope!




Denny, How is the Orion Q70 Super Wide Angle 26mm
ep in your Z-12? I was thinking about getting the 38 or 32mm one and was worried about how it will fair in a f4.9 scope.


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echoes1961
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Reged: 09/14/12

Re: Z12 First light finally new [Re: Billytk]
      #5652796 - 01/30/13 05:12 PM

Do a star test next and let us know on that. And of course Jupiter .

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dennyhenke
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Reged: 09/07/12

Loc: Fredericktown, MO
Re: Z12 First light finally new [Re: echoes1961]
      #5653155 - 01/30/13 08:31 PM

Billytk, it's great, especially considering the price $79 new on Amazon right now! The next step up, for me, would be the 24mm ES 80 but that runs $200. The q70 is the EP I start with as I star hop around, much easier to find my target with such a wide field of view.

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kenrenard
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Reged: 12/13/12

Loc: Dunmore, PA
Re: Z12 First light finally new [Re: Billytk]
      #5653194 - 01/30/13 08:55 PM

I have only the 38mm and for $79 it can't be beat. A bit soft on the edges but a really nice eyepiece.


Ken


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ccaissie
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Reged: 09/13/10

Loc: Whitefield, Maine
Re: Z12 First light finally new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5658586 - 02/02/13 05:43 PM

Breathing on the optics is also a problem....can be eliminated by breathing through a snorkel...tube inside your parka.

Old Alaskan Surveyor's trick.

Are ya bringing this baby to the Galaxy Quest Star party in Lincolnville on the 9th?


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Kildar13x
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Reged: 07/06/11

Loc: Maine
Re: Z12 First light finally new [Re: ccaissie]
      #5658666 - 02/02/13 06:19 PM

I wish I could but I have to work. I'd love to get out to some nice dark skies though. I live down in Falmouth so I get a lot of light pollution from Portland. I have a spot up in Bridgton that I go to when I can.

Thats a good idea with the snorkel never would've thought of that.


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azure1961p
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Reged: 01/17/09

Loc: USA
Re: Z12 First light finally new [Re: ccaissie]
      #5658671 - 02/02/13 06:21 PM

The lack of oxygen created by the dead space of the snorkel itself in re rebreathing coupled with the air rebreathed in the Parka would degrade the eyes ability to see faint light as lack of oxygen causes visual noise that dissolves the view. A regulator type mouthpiece with a one way air valve would be great for keeping the air warm for breathing but a seperste hose for exhale would be needed.

Pete


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aatt
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Reged: 07/26/12

Loc: CT
Re: Z12 First light finally new [Re: azure1961p]
      #5658736 - 02/02/13 07:05 PM

Congrats on the scope! You will be addicted to the extra aperture.If you like galaxies-wait until you bag m81,m82 and M51 in that bad boy! The snorkel idea is good, but a jointed drinking straw was what I used last night.Short end in the mouth and the rest underneath the ski mask and vented at the neck. It worked great-the inhale can be done through your face covering and the exhale can be slow and steady through the straw. It is really kinda meditative when you relax and find your rhythm. No fogging at all and my eye was glued the whole time-no side breathing, breath holding and no looking away to blow like a whale surfacing for air....

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pftarch
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Reged: 09/21/07

Re: Z12 First light finally new [Re: aatt]
      #5658938 - 02/02/13 09:13 PM

m42 is a tough act to follow, however, wait until you compare the view of the hercules globular cluster between the z12 and the c6. I "only" have the z10, and it LOVES globulars. enjoy!

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