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Spyke
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 07/22/03

Loc: Scotland

Is it sacrilegious...
#5645852 - 01/27/13 11:17 AM

...to mount a Telrad on an Intes Micro M603?

I love using Telrads, even in combination with the optical finder, but I don't know... the M603 has such a "classic" look...

Ant

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Asbytec
Guy in a furry hat

Reged: 08/08/07

Loc: La Union, PI

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5645866 - 01/27/13 11:24 AM

Well, it's probably not sacrilegious, but you're very right about the clean looking, attractive classic look. Personally, I'd forego the Telrad even though I love them...on my Dob. Maybe you can get a hand held version of the Telrad and use that?

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Spyke
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 07/22/03

Loc: Scotland

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Asbytec]
#5645874 - 01/27/13 11:27 AM

I think what I need is a half-sized scaled down model Telrad, with less plastic (none) and a hefty build quality to match the scope. Perhaps made brom black steel or aluminium with a proper rotary "switch" to complete the look...

Hmmm.... where can I find one like that...

Ant

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Sarkikos
Postmaster

Reged: 12/18/07

Loc: Suburban Maryland, USA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5645926 - 01/27/13 12:02 PM

Why not use a Rigel QuickFinder? That's what I put on my smaller scopes. I never understood why folks insist on putting a long, bulky Telrad on a smaller scope.

Rigel QuickFinder

Mike

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Sarkikos
Postmaster

Reged: 12/18/07

Loc: Suburban Maryland, USA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Sarkikos]
#5645936 - 01/27/13 12:08 PM

Here's another option:

The ES 8x50 Illuminated Finder is straight-through and true erect image (not image-reversed). With one of those, you could combine the function of a Telrad with an optical finder.

Explore Scientific 8x50 Erect Image Illuminated Viewfinder

You could probably fit it in the finder rings you already have on your scope.

I bought one for my Dobs, but I'm thinking about mounting it on my C6 SCT.

Mike

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rmollise
Postmaster

Reged: 07/06/07

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5645961 - 01/27/13 12:24 PM

Quote:

...to mount a Telrad on an Intes Micro M603?

I love using Telrads, even in combination with the optical finder, but I don't know... the M603 has such a "classic" look...

Ant

For me, telescopes are tools not holy relics.

Anything that makes my tools work better gets used.

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zawijava
scholastic sledgehammer

Reged: 10/06/07

Loc: Wells, Maine 04090

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5645971 - 01/27/13 12:30 PM

How bout a Baader Sky Surfer V mounted in a set of adjustable rings just like your straight through Finder? It might have a somewhat Classic look if mounted in 6 point rings. The rings would make the Sky Surfer a "no tools" adjustment RDF, which would be a welcomed relief from the small screwdriver needed for adjustment[the only gripe I have with it]. Otherwise I'm really liking mine! -Tim

Quote:

...to mount a Telrad on an Intes Micro M603?

I love using Telrads, even in combination with the optical finder, but I don't know... the M603 has such a "classic" look...

Ant

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EdZ
Professor EdZ

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Loc: Cumberland, R I , USA42N71.4W

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: rmollise]
#5645974 - 01/27/13 12:31 PM

Quote:

Quote:

...to mount a Telrad on an Intes Micro M603?

I love using Telrads, even in combination with the optical finder, but I don't know... the M603 has such a "classic" look...

Ant

For me, telescopes are tools not holy relics.

Anything that makes my tools work better gets used.

good answer

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maknewtnut
Member

Reged: 10/08/06

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5645975 - 01/27/13 12:31 PM

Along with the other suggestions and opinions thus far, there are red dot finders with large reticles. Mounting can be accomplished using the existing bases with just a bit of sanding or filing on the sides of some still available mounting shoes. I used to obtain both from Stellarvue, but some European outlets might offer the same.

If you don't object, you can also drill your tube after removal of the optics, which on an I-M MCT, is rather easy (and often doesn't require recollimation after reassembly).

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Eric P
sage

Reged: 04/04/05

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: rmollise]
#5645995 - 01/27/13 12:43 PM

Quote:

For me, telescopes are tools not holy relics.

Fine! I'll just go and remove the Questar from the tabernacle.

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David Pavlich
Transmographied

Reged: 05/18/05

Loc: Mandeville, LA USA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Eric P]
#5646045 - 01/27/13 01:14 PM

If you're going to use it for astronomy, then install the Telrad. If it's for the weekend home tour show, then leave it off.

David

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Spyke
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 07/22/03

Loc: Scotland

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: David Pavlich]
#5646063 - 01/27/13 01:22 PM

You know, those are good points. Yes it's a tool for making things far away easier to observe, and a useful finder is a tool that makes that process easier to achieve.

(and besides, for the weekend home tour show I can take it off and leave just the base on

)

Still want my custom miniaturised Telrad to be produced though!

Ant

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rmollise
Postmaster

Reged: 07/06/07

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5646106 - 01/27/13 01:42 PM

There are plenty of "how abouts," but no zero-power finder I have used works as well as a good, old Telrad.

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rmollise
Postmaster

Reged: 07/06/07

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5646108 - 01/27/13 01:44 PM

Quote:

You know, those are good points. Yes it's a tool for making things far away easier to observe, and a useful finder is a tool that makes that process easier to achieve.

(and besides, for the weekend home tour show I can take it off and leave just the base on )

Still want my custom miniaturised Telrad to be produced though!

Ant

There've been a couple of finders like that produced over the years, including the Rigel, which is "almost" like a Telrad, and the shortened "Telrads" the Galileo folks imported for a while...but...no...none work as well as the REAL DEAL.

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Spyke
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 07/22/03

Loc: Scotland

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: rmollise]
#5646121 - 01/27/13 01:53 PM

Agreed. My thinking is this. I need the Telrad. I could mount it where the second unused mounting bracket is on the picture. Does anyone know if the screws that attach that mounting bracket to the OTA have nuts inside the tube, or is it safe to simply unscrew them without dismantling the OTA?

Ant

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Edwin
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Reged: 05/16/07

Loc: The Netherlands

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5646126 - 01/27/13 01:58 PM Attachment (18 downloads)

Yes !! No plastic on a Russian Mak !!

I've mounted a full alu RDF on my Intes MK67. Not as big as a Telrad and works fine. Astronomics sells them for $ 60.

Edited by Edwin (01/27/13 02:19 PM)

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orion61
Vendor(Clear Edge Optical)

Reged: 10/20/07

Loc: NW Iowa BURRRR

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: rmollise]
#5646181 - 01/27/13 02:38 PM

Quote:

There are plenty of "how abouts," but no zero-power finder I have used works as well as a good, old Telrad.

I usually agree with Rod about 1/2 the time.. LOL well perhaps a little more..
But he is 1000% right about this, all the other red dots or projection finders block out so much light they are practically useless, Only thing they are good for is
bright star alignment for go to, even then YUK.

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dfell
scholastic sledgehammer

Reged: 06/25/05

Loc: Wetaskiwin, Alberta, Canada

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: orion61]
#5646209 - 01/27/13 02:54 PM

Scopestuff has an adapter to fit the Telrad base to a synta shoe, you may be able to adapt it for yours, then it can be added or removed like any other finder.

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Eddgie
Postmaster

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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5646213 - 01/27/13 02:56 PM

I never hesitated for a moment with respect to putting a Telrad on my custom-painted 6" APO.

If you like Telrads, you should not hesitate either.

It isn't a kiddie fashion show.

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Mike E.
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 01/26/10

Loc: Moonstone Observatory

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Eric P]
#5646240 - 01/27/13 03:12 PM

Quote:

Quote:

For me, telescopes are tools not holy relics.

Fine! I'll just go and remove the Questar from the tabernacle.

Eric, best post this year !

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btb
sage

Reged: 07/07/06

Loc: Northeast Indiana

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Mike E.]
#5646288 - 01/27/13 03:44 PM

If you don't tell anybody who is going to know?

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Spyke
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 07/22/03

Loc: Scotland

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: dfell]
#5646289 - 01/27/13 03:45 PM

Quote:

Scopestuff has an adapter to fit the Telrad base to a synta shoe, you may be able to adapt it for yours, then it can be added or removed like any other finder.

Thanks, but I've already got one of those - and it's even uglier than the standard Telrad base! Useful though.

So if the screws are safe to remove, I'll just mount the standard base on the OTA... anyone?

Thanks, Ant

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Sarkikos
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Loc: Suburban Maryland, USA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: EdZ]
#5646327 - 01/27/13 04:10 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

...to mount a Telrad on an Intes Micro M603?

I love using Telrads, even in combination with the optical finder, but I don't know... the M603 has such a "classic" look...

Ant

For me, telescopes are tools not holy relics.

Anything that makes my tools work better gets used.

good answer

I agree ... But it didn't really answer the question. Should he use the Telrad on his Mak or not?

Mike

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Sarkikos
Postmaster

Reged: 12/18/07

Loc: Suburban Maryland, USA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Sarkikos]
#5646344 - 01/27/13 04:18 PM

IME & IMO, a Telrad is too bulky for a 6" Mak or SCT. And putting it on a little Synta base is just an accident waiting to happen.

My used 6" Mak came with a Telrad base but I promptly took it off. Now I have two QuickFinder bases on the 6" Mak, one on either side of the focuser. Which base I mount the QuickFinder on depends on which mount I use for the OTA.

YMMV

Mike

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Sarkikos
Postmaster

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Loc: Suburban Maryland, USA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5646351 - 01/27/13 04:19 PM

Ant,

Quote:

Still want my custom miniaturised Telrad to be produced though!

That's called a QuickFinder.

Mike

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rmollise
Postmaster

Reged: 07/06/07

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: orion61]
#5646377 - 01/27/13 04:28 PM

Quote:

I usually agree with Rod about 1/2 the time.. LOL well perhaps a little more..
But he is 1000% right about this, all the other red dots or projection finders block out so much light they are practically useless, Only thing they are good for is
bright star alignment for go to, even then YUK.

Let me add that you can get standoff type brackets for Telrads that maybe make for a neater looking installation, if that's important.

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m2k
member

Reged: 12/10/06

Loc: Massachusetts, USA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: rmollise]
#5646453 - 01/27/13 05:05 PM

I used one on my TEC-6...
-Mike

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Spyke
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 07/22/03

Loc: Scotland

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: m2k]
#5646465 - 01/27/13 05:14 PM

Ok, quick question: do the screws that hold the finder attachment base on the M603 have nuts inside the OTA or is it safe to undo them without opening up the OTA?
TIA

Ant

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GeneT
Ely Kid

Reged: 11/07/08

Loc: South Texas

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5646485 - 01/27/13 05:23 PM

Having both an optical and red dot finder enhances the utility of the telescope. The red dot gets the view close, and the optical dead on. Also, the optical finder gives a telescope view, which makes identifying the object in the main eye piece that much easier. I have used a variety of red dot finders, and in my opinion, the Telrad is superior.

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stevew
Now I've done it

Reged: 03/03/06

Loc: British Columbia Canada

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5646804 - 01/27/13 07:52 PM

It's a 6 inch Russian built utilitarian Maksutov, not the Mona Lisa.
Stick the Telrad on it!
If you have an issue with plastic, buy the Televue Starbeam.
Now if it was a TEC Mak........

Steve

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jrbarnett
Eyepiece Hooligan

Reged: 02/28/06

Loc: Petaluma, CA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: rmollise]
#5646864 - 01/27/13 08:22 PM

"...telescopes are tools not holy relics."

Bite your tongue, Unk.

- Jim

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NHRob
Post Laureate

Reged: 08/27/04

Loc: New Hampshire

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: jrbarnett]
#5646866 - 01/27/13 08:25 PM

Quote:

"...telescopes are tools not holy relics."

Unspeakable !!!
Sacrilege !!

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Sarkikos
Postmaster

Reged: 12/18/07

Loc: Suburban Maryland, USA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: rmollise]
#5646944 - 01/27/13 09:03 PM

Quote:

Let me add that you can get standoff type brackets for Telrads that maybe make for a neater looking installation, if that's important.

AFAIK, there are two standoff brackets. I've tried both for my 8" and 10" Dobs. I like the taller one better. It's easier to lean over the optical finder to reach the Telrad, and my head is comfortably above the OTA.

On the other hand, a Telrad takes up a lot of real estate on a 6" Cat. Put that Telrad on a tall standoff and it looks even more out of place and cumbersome.

As far as it being an offense against the Optics Gods, I've got nothing against sticking a Telrad base on any telescope. These scopes should be thought of as tools. That is what they are - or should be - after all. But IME that Telrad is just too large for small scopes. IMO, a Telrad on a small scope looks a bit ridiculous.

Mike

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Sarkikos
Postmaster

Reged: 12/18/07

Loc: Suburban Maryland, USA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Sarkikos]
#5646950 - 01/27/13 09:09 PM

Ant,

If you are determined to use a Telrad on the 6" Mak, just stick that sucker right on the OTA. Put the sticky tape on the base, and slap that base on the scope. Don't have it attached to a little Synta mount or something similiar, like some overblown monstrous weed. Just stick it right on the old OTA! The plastic Telrad base is not going to turn the rest of the Mak into plastic. It's not catching!

Mike

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DoctorNoodle
Pooh-Bah

Reged: 07/14/07

Loc: Lawn Guyland, NY

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Sarkikos]
#5646973 - 01/27/13 09:20 PM

I dunno. I always thought a Telrad was cool enough to go on any scope.

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Asbytec
Guy in a furry hat

Reged: 08/08/07

Loc: La Union, PI

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: dfell]
#5647070 - 01/27/13 10:17 PM

Quote:

Scopestuff has an adapter to fit the Telrad base to a synta shoe, you may be able to adapt it for yours, then it can be added or removed like any other finder.

I like this idea, especially if the Telrad base still attached with tape. That is my aversion.

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Sarkikos
Postmaster

Reged: 12/18/07

Loc: Suburban Maryland, USA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Asbytec]
#5647177 - 01/27/13 11:28 PM

Take a look at a Telrad attached to one of those puny little Synta shoes. Doesn't look very secure to me. Snag it and something's going to give. Just sayin'.

Telrad tape is easy to remove. Dental floss and Goop Gone gets it done.

Mike

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catboat
sage

Reged: 12/01/09

Loc: Maine

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5647404 - 01/28/13 04:43 AM

Quote:

Ok, quick question: do the screws that hold the finder attachment base on the M603 have nuts inside the OTA or is it safe to undo them without opening up the OTA?
TIA

Ant

Ant, You've asked this question twice, and I'd like to know the answer as well. So let me ask it again for you…

Can the finder shoes of the M603 be removed from the outside without nuts/retaining clips/whatever coming loose inside the tube?

Edited by catboat (01/28/13 11:32 AM)

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Jon Isaacs
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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: DoctorNoodle]
#5647418 - 01/28/13 05:17 AM

Quote:

I dunno. I always thought a Telrad was cool enough to go on any scope.

The important thing with any finder is not how it looks during daylight hours but how comfortable it is to use and how effective it is at night... The tendency is to place the finder towards the rear of the scope but it is often easier to use when it's up towards the front.

Jon

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RogerRZ
Whatta you lookin' at?

Reged: 01/09/06

Loc: West Collette, NB, Canada

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Jon Isaacs]
#5647450 - 01/28/13 06:14 AM

I have one on my Intes MN65, and it works great. Iam, however, waiting for an acceptable cast iron version that would better intergrate with the rest of the trimmings on the scope...

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Eric63
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Loc: Ottawa, Ontario

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: RogerRZ]
#5648018 - 01/28/13 12:26 PM

And here I find that a Telrad and 8X50 RACI looks pretty cool on my 127Mak! (with the Kendrix Dew Shield too!)

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Spyke
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 07/22/03

Loc: Scotland

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: catboat]
#5648120 - 01/28/13 01:03 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Ok, quick question: do the screws that hold the finder attachment base on the M603 have nuts inside the OTA or is it safe to undo them without opening up the OTA?
TIA

Ant

Ant, You've asked this question twice, and I'd like to know the answer as well. So let me ask it again for you…

Can the finder shoes of the M603 be removed from the outside without nuts/retaining clips/whatever coming loose inside the tube?

Thanks, cb. I wonder if anyone will notice?

Ant

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Patrik Iver
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Reged: 07/29/03

Loc: Kaarina, Finland

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5648200 - 01/28/13 01:36 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Ok, quick question: do the screws that hold the finder attachment base on the M603 have nuts inside the OTA or is it safe to undo them without opening up the OTA?
TIA

Ant

Ant, You've asked this question twice, and I'd like to know the answer as well. So let me ask it again for you…

Can the finder shoes of the M603 be removed from the outside without nuts/retaining clips/whatever coming loose inside the tube?

Thanks, cb. I wonder if anyone will notice?

Ant

I've never examined a Maksutov like that, but based on the photo in the beginning of the thread, I think there is a fair chance that the bracket screws are far enough forward that they might be visible over the edge of the primary when looking into the OTA through the meniscus. Have you tried looking with a flashlight?

I guess my suggestion is so obvious that the screw tips (with or without nuts) can't be visible from the front. Otherwise you would have known the answer.

But just in case it aint obvious...

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Patrik Iver
sage

Reged: 07/29/03

Loc: Kaarina, Finland

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Patrik Iver]
#5648227 - 01/28/13 01:44 PM

About it being sacrilegious or not:

It kind of might be, as the Scottish weather likely is a bad as ours here in Finland, in which case the scopes tend to spend more time being nice toys to look at rather than through. In that case you need a ring bracket like the one for the optical finder, and a Baarder SkySurfer V, as someone suggested.

On the other hand, the scope is used in the dark, and functionality is king - some of my scopes are accessorized and modified in a way that does definitely not look pretty, but which does enhance functionality, and that is what ultimately matters.

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Spyke
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 07/22/03

Loc: Scotland

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Patrik Iver]
#5648315 - 01/28/13 02:18 PM

Quote:

I guess my suggestion is so obvious that the screw tips (with or without nuts) can't be visible from the front. Otherwise you would have known the answer.

But just in case it aint obvious...

Hmm. Problem with that theory is it's an Intes, so everything inside is blacker than a very black thing in the middle of a black hole. Then there's the baffles. They're also black. So no, not visible I'm afraid!

Ant

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greedyshark
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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5648714 - 01/28/13 05:00 PM

Use the Telrad. Remember, it's dark at night.

Charles

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BKBrown
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 08/23/09

Loc: Northern Virginia, USA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: stevew]
#5648990 - 01/28/13 07:06 PM Attachment (11 downloads)

Quote:

It's a 6 inch Russian built utilitarian Maksutov, not the Mona Lisa.
Stick the Telrad on it!
If you have an issue with plastic, buy the Televue Starbeam.
Now if it was a TEC Mak........

Steve

Heck yeh, stick it on there. I put one on my TEC 140 and just ignored the hairy eyeballs...

Clear Skies,
Brian

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johnnyha
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Loc: Sherman Oaks, CA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: BKBrown]
#5649506 - 01/28/13 11:40 PM

Beautiful setup Brian!

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RobertED
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 07/11/03

Loc: Johnston, RI

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: johnnyha]
#5649764 - 01/29/13 06:59 AM

Suh-weeeeeeeet!!

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BKBrown
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 08/23/09

Loc: Northern Virginia, USA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: RobertED]
#5650767 - 01/29/13 05:12 PM

Thanks guys

Clear Skies,
Brian

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Spyke
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 07/22/03

Loc: Scotland

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: BKBrown]
#5650794 - 01/29/13 05:31 PM

For better or worse, 'tis done!

And I think it's a good thing!

Ant

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btb
sage

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Loc: Northeast Indiana

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5650830 - 01/29/13 05:50 PM

Looks nice.

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Spyke
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 07/22/03

Loc: Scotland

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: btb]
#5650857 - 01/29/13 06:09 PM

I think so too. It's very good to look THROUGH as well!

Ant

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NHRob
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Loc: New Hampshire

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5650872 - 01/29/13 06:17 PM

Sacrilege !!!

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BKBrown
Carpal Tunnel

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Loc: Northern Virginia, USA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5650937 - 01/29/13 06:52 PM

Looks fine, rest easy tonight

Clear Skies,
Brian

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johnnyha
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Loc: Sherman Oaks, CA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: BKBrown]
#5650993 - 01/29/13 07:28 PM

Perfect.

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Sarkikos
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Loc: Suburban Maryland, USA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5651022 - 01/29/13 07:44 PM

The deed is done. Enjoy!

Mike

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btb
sage

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Loc: Northeast Indiana

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5651972 - 01/30/13 10:19 AM

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Does anyone know if the screws that attach that mounting bracket to the OTA have nuts inside the tube, or is it safe to simply unscrew them without dismantling the OTA?

Please share your findings about the nuts. I did not see anyone answer your question, I imagine because they did not know. Now that you know what is the verdict?

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BigC
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 09/29/10

Loc: SE Indiana

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Jon Isaacs]
#5652225 - 01/30/13 12:28 PM

I agree the Telrad is clunky looking and large but it does work.

Too many RDF have tinted windows (why?) that hide all the fainter stars.

I found a bulls-eye finder similar but $10 cheaper and somewhat smaller than the genuine Telrad on the bay and bought three of them because I don't care for moving one finder from scope to scope.

BUT I agree with those who desire a bullseye finder more aesthetically pleasing as an accessory for classic scopes.

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Darenwh
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 05/11/06

Loc: Covington, GA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Mike E.]
#5652419 - 01/30/13 02:07 PM

As long as you don't defork a Questar and put it on a first year Meade ETX mount you have nothing to worry about...

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Spyke
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 07/22/03

Loc: Scotland

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: btb]
#5652686 - 01/30/13 04:24 PM

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Does anyone know if the screws that attach that mounting bracket to the OTA have nuts inside the tube, or is it safe to simply unscrew them without dismantling the OTA?

Please share your findings about the nuts. I did not see anyone answer your question, I imagine because they did not know. Now that you know what is the verdict?

I did find out!

And it's a secret...

Ant

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Spyke
Carpal Tunnel

Reged: 07/22/03

Loc: Scotland

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5652691 - 01/30/13 04:26 PM

Sorry!

The screws are free of nuts and are easy to remove and replace. I found out from a fellow M603 owner - the previous owner of my current scope in fact!

Ant

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btb
sage

Reged: 07/07/06

Loc: Northeast Indiana

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Spyke]
#5653084 - 01/30/13 07:40 PM

Good one.

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gmartin02
sage

Reged: 04/11/05

Loc: Santa Clarita, CA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: btb]
#5653544 - 01/31/13 02:33 AM Attachment (10 downloads)

Yeah - it's big & ugly on the Mak, but it sure works good. The dew shield on the Deluxe and the Moonlite focuser make it look not quite so overbearing. I've always been a form follows function kind of guy, but if you can have both it is the best. I think I may end up mounting one of the multi-reticle finders on it instead like Edwin did on his, but I am in no hurry because the Telrad just works a little better.

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gmartin02
sage

Reged: 04/11/05

Loc: Santa Clarita, CA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: gmartin02]
#5653554 - 01/31/13 02:45 AM Attachment (10 downloads)

I built a bracket out of a piece of steel bar stock I got from Lowe's. The metal was already the right width - I just cut it down to the desired length with a jig saw, drilled a couple of holes in it so I could mount it in the finder/accessory holes (had to buy longer metric screws), and painted it satin black. It is rock solid, and "floats" above the tube because of the offset of the finder accessory pylon. On my scope the screws came right out really easy and do not go all of the way to the inside of the OTA, so no problem there.

Greg

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Sarkikos
Postmaster

Reged: 12/18/07

Loc: Suburban Maryland, USA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: gmartin02]
#5653706 - 01/31/13 07:02 AM

Hmmm....

Why not just tape it to the OTA?

Mike

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gmartin02
sage

Reged: 04/11/05

Loc: Santa Clarita, CA

Re: Is it sacrilegious... new

[Re: Sarkikos]
#5654160 - 01/31/13 11:38 AM

That's the way it was before, but I disliked having double sided tape stuck to the side of my pretty Russian scope, so I removed the Telrad bracket/tape & made the screw on bracket. Plus the Telrad now sits a little higher than when the Telrad bracket was taped to the tube.

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