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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5646288 - 01/27/13 03:44 PM

If you don't tell anybody who is going to know?

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Spyke
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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: dfell]
      #5646289 - 01/27/13 03:45 PM

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Scopestuff has an adapter to fit the Telrad base to a synta shoe, you may be able to adapt it for yours, then it can be added or removed like any other finder.




Thanks, but I've already got one of those - and it's even uglier than the standard Telrad base! Useful though.

So if the screws are safe to remove, I'll just mount the standard base on the OTA... anyone?

Thanks, Ant


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Sarkikos
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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: EdZ]
      #5646327 - 01/27/13 04:10 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

...to mount a Telrad on an Intes Micro M603?

I love using Telrads, even in combination with the optical finder, but I don't know... the M603 has such a "classic" look...


Ant




For me, telescopes are tools not holy relics.

Anything that makes my tools work better gets used.




good answer




I agree ... But it didn't really answer the question. Should he use the Telrad on his Mak or not?


Mike


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Sarkikos
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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5646344 - 01/27/13 04:18 PM

IME & IMO, a Telrad is too bulky for a 6" Mak or SCT. And putting it on a little Synta base is just an accident waiting to happen.

My used 6" Mak came with a Telrad base but I promptly took it off. Now I have two QuickFinder bases on the 6" Mak, one on either side of the focuser. Which base I mount the QuickFinder on depends on which mount I use for the OTA.

YMMV

Mike


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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: Spyke]
      #5646351 - 01/27/13 04:19 PM

Ant,

Quote:

Still want my custom miniaturised Telrad to be produced though!




That's called a QuickFinder.

Mike


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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: orion61]
      #5646377 - 01/27/13 04:28 PM

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I usually agree with Rod about 1/2 the time.. LOL well perhaps a little more..
But he is 1000% right about this, all the other red dots or projection finders block out so much light they are practically useless, Only thing they are good for is
bright star alignment for go to, even then YUK.




Let me add that you can get standoff type brackets for Telrads that maybe make for a neater looking installation, if that's important.


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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: rmollise]
      #5646453 - 01/27/13 05:05 PM

I used one on my TEC-6...
-Mike


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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: m2k]
      #5646465 - 01/27/13 05:14 PM

Ok, quick question: do the screws that hold the finder attachment base on the M603 have nuts inside the OTA or is it safe to undo them without opening up the OTA?
TIA

Ant


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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: Spyke]
      #5646485 - 01/27/13 05:23 PM

Having both an optical and red dot finder enhances the utility of the telescope. The red dot gets the view close, and the optical dead on. Also, the optical finder gives a telescope view, which makes identifying the object in the main eye piece that much easier. I have used a variety of red dot finders, and in my opinion, the Telrad is superior.

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stevew
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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: Spyke]
      #5646804 - 01/27/13 07:52 PM

It's a 6 inch Russian built utilitarian Maksutov, not the Mona Lisa.
Stick the Telrad on it!
If you have an issue with plastic, buy the Televue Starbeam.
Now if it was a TEC Mak........

Steve


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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: rmollise]
      #5646864 - 01/27/13 08:22 PM

"...telescopes are tools not holy relics."

Bite your tongue, Unk.

- Jim


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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: jrbarnett]
      #5646866 - 01/27/13 08:25 PM

Quote:

"...telescopes are tools not holy relics."





Unspeakable !!!
Sacrilege !!


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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: rmollise]
      #5646944 - 01/27/13 09:03 PM

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Let me add that you can get standoff type brackets for Telrads that maybe make for a neater looking installation, if that's important.




AFAIK, there are two standoff brackets. I've tried both for my 8" and 10" Dobs. I like the taller one better. It's easier to lean over the optical finder to reach the Telrad, and my head is comfortably above the OTA.

On the other hand, a Telrad takes up a lot of real estate on a 6" Cat. Put that Telrad on a tall standoff and it looks even more out of place and cumbersome.

As far as it being an offense against the Optics Gods, I've got nothing against sticking a Telrad base on any telescope. These scopes should be thought of as tools. That is what they are - or should be - after all. But IME that Telrad is just too large for small scopes. IMO, a Telrad on a small scope looks a bit ridiculous.

Mike


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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5646950 - 01/27/13 09:09 PM

Ant,

If you are determined to use a Telrad on the 6" Mak, just stick that sucker right on the OTA. Put the sticky tape on the base, and slap that base on the scope. Don't have it attached to a little Synta mount or something similiar, like some overblown monstrous weed. Just stick it right on the old OTA! The plastic Telrad base is not going to turn the rest of the Mak into plastic. It's not catching!


Mike


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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5646973 - 01/27/13 09:20 PM

I dunno. I always thought a Telrad was cool enough to go on any scope.

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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: dfell]
      #5647070 - 01/27/13 10:17 PM

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Scopestuff has an adapter to fit the Telrad base to a synta shoe, you may be able to adapt it for yours, then it can be added or removed like any other finder.




I like this idea, especially if the Telrad base still attached with tape. That is my aversion.


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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: Asbytec]
      #5647177 - 01/27/13 11:28 PM

Take a look at a Telrad attached to one of those puny little Synta shoes. Doesn't look very secure to me. Snag it and something's going to give. Just sayin'.

Telrad tape is easy to remove. Dental floss and Goop Gone gets it done.

Mike


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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: Spyke]
      #5647404 - 01/28/13 04:43 AM

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Ok, quick question: do the screws that hold the finder attachment base on the M603 have nuts inside the OTA or is it safe to undo them without opening up the OTA?
TIA

Ant




Ant, You've asked this question twice, and I'd like to know the answer as well. So let me ask it again for you…

Can the finder shoes of the M603 be removed from the outside without nuts/retaining clips/whatever coming loose inside the tube?

Edited by catboat (01/28/13 11:32 AM)


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Re: Is it sacrilegious... [Re: DoctorNoodle]
      #5647418 - 01/28/13 05:17 AM

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I dunno. I always thought a Telrad was cool enough to go on any scope.






The important thing with any finder is not how it looks during daylight hours but how comfortable it is to use and how effective it is at night... The tendency is to place the finder towards the rear of the scope but it is often easier to use when it's up towards the front.

Jon


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Re: Is it sacrilegious... new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5647450 - 01/28/13 06:14 AM

I have one on my Intes MN65, and it works great. Iam, however, waiting for an acceptable cast iron version that would better intergrate with the rest of the trimmings on the scope...

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