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hoghead385
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Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ??
      #5649916 - 01/29/13 09:38 AM

Returning to sky watching after many years of just looking up and recently decided to purchase a new scope. I like the traditional refractor type and have been looking at the two scopes listed in the "subject" line. Are these good starter scopes, if so, is either better than the other? Or, are there other better choices? I know size counts but the budget is $300. Thanks for any advice!

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Jon Isaacs
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Re: Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ?? new [Re: hoghead385]
      #5650167 - 01/29/13 12:06 PM

Quote:

Returning to sky watching after many years of just looking up and recently decided to purchase a new scope. I like the traditional refractor type and have been looking at the two scopes listed in the "subject" line. Are these good starter scopes, if so, is either better than the other? Or, are there other better choices? I know size counts but the budget is $300. Thanks for any advice!




Walmart seems to be seeling the 90AZ-ADR for $150. I have not seen it but my experience with recent model Meade refractors like this is that they are a lot of plastic. The Orion would be a typical Orion refractor, no plastic, solid but no frills, the EQ-2 mount is marginal for a scope this large.

Jon


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csrlice12
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Re: Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ?? new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5650233 - 01/29/13 12:43 PM

Of the two, I'd go with the Orion. It is a true telescope, not a cheap toy. If you can find it, +1 on getting a better mount. The EQ2 will handle the scope, but it pretty much is the max for the mount. An EQ3 would be better.

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steve-in-kville
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Re: Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ?? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5650949 - 01/29/13 06:58 PM

I just got my Orion 90mm EQ today. Haven't used it yet. I will post a better report once I can get outside.

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Locoman
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Re: Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ?? new [Re: hoghead385]
      #5651530 - 01/30/13 01:58 AM

I once had the Meade 90 AZ-ADR. The optics were good, the slo mo controls were nice and the focuser was plastic. The Orion would be a better scope for sure. By the way, are you still a hoghead or did you pull the pin?

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meade4ever
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Re: Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ?? new [Re: Locoman]
      #5652041 - 01/30/13 10:59 AM

You can find Meade DS2090 refractors, optics are fantastic
Contact Bill Vorce at telescope warehouse


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BigC
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Re: Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ?? new [Re: meade4ever]
      #5652316 - 01/30/13 01:22 PM

The major problem I find with Meade refractors is those in the lower price range have plastic focusers,and people strip the teeth off the rack by forcing the focuser while the clamping screw is tightened down. Since the rack is an integral part of the focuser (it is all one piece of plastic) this means replacing the focuser or some creative engineering.

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BigC
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Re: Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ?? new [Re: hoghead385]
      #5652332 - 01/30/13 01:30 PM

If you can find one at your local Costco or care to check ebay or amazon you may find the Celestron 102 package for $200,more or less. It is a goto scope and does require batteries or an ac adapter.You do not have to do an alignment unless you want the scope to track.You can just move it with the direction buttons and it moves smoothly.

Or you could look for an older Meade model 390 or 395.


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BigC
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Re: Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ?? new [Re: hoghead385]
      #5652346 - 01/30/13 01:36 PM

Also consider craigslist in your area.For instance.
There is a Meade 390 (90mm az-el) for $100 in Stanford,Kentucky.


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hoghead385
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Re: Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ?? new [Re: BigC]
      #5653442 - 01/30/13 11:52 PM

Thanks to all for the great info and advice. I'll check the local listings for the scopes mentioned, maybe I'll get lucky. Locoman, I've been asked many times about the "hoghead" nickname but it's not train related. I got it while in basic training while attending state law enf training.

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hoghead385
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Re: Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ?? new [Re: hoghead385]
      #5653491 - 01/31/13 01:05 AM

Any feedback on the Orion ST 80? Would this be a good scope for a newbie?

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BigC
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Re: Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ?? new [Re: hoghead385]
      #5653654 - 01/31/13 06:14 AM

The short F5 80mm are fine for wide views but a f11 80mm is much better for general astronomy as it will tolerate higher power with less false colors.

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hoghead385
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Re: Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ?? new [Re: BigC]
      #5654052 - 01/31/13 10:41 AM

Thanks BigC. My eyes and brain are pretty foggy from looking at so many scopes and reading lots and lots of reviews! One last question - steppng up my budget a hundred dollars would enable me to purchase the Orion 102XLT, reviews are pretty good. Good starter scope or too much too fast?

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Sean Puett
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Re: Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ?? new [Re: hoghead385]
      #5654606 - 01/31/13 04:08 PM

What about some binoculars? That is a great way to start and you could save the rest of the money you save toward a slightly better refractor. Or what is wrong with an 8" dobsonian? No false color and wonderful views with a good solid mount. You can even sit and observe. That is my recommendation. Then if you catch the astronomy bug, you could save up for a nicer refractor later.

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Gary Riley
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Re: Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ?? new [Re: Sean Puett]
      #5655398 - 02/01/13 12:41 AM

hoghead,

The Omni 102mm XLT refractor is a very decent scope for general purpose viewing of many celestial objects. At approx. f/10 it doesn't show as much CA as shorter focal length achro refractors do. To me it's strengths are in viewing the Moon, planets, open clusters and double stars. I have it mounted on the CG-4 mount which does a good job. It complements my 12 inch dob nicely.

Gary


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Mike Lynch
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Re: Meade 90AZ-ADR or Orion Astro View 90MM ?? new [Re: meade4ever]
      #5886114 - 05/26/13 07:39 PM

Thought I'd chime in about the Meade 2090 f/8.8 refractor.

Looking for a grab 'n go 90mm to take into my back yard for planet views, I read a number of reviews on this scope. I bought one from Telescope Warehouse recently.

Bottom line: excellent optics, very well collimated in the plastic cell; focuser actually better than a standard plastic one, because the tension is adjustable with 4 screws that press on ball bearings.

Worth MUCH more than the advertised price. Very nice 200x views of Saturn.

Mike Lynch
Frankfort, KY USA


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