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jkaiser
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Re: Fossil found in meteorite [Re: llanitedave]
      #5651675 - 01/30/13 06:48 AM

I am very skeptical about this.

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SteveMushynsky
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Re: Fossil found in meteorite new [Re: llanitedave]
      #5734666 - 03/15/13 06:39 PM

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Journal of Cosmology is well known in the planetary science community....as being the National Enquirer in the world of science journals. It is not peer reviewed. It does not exist in print. It has a history of publishing poorly written papers by authors with dubious credentials.



A number of such 'journals' exist online. Pseudoscience fringists, outraged that the established real scientific journals rejected their theories, created their own 'journals' so that their work can be legitimized by 'publishing' and review by their own questionable peers.

You too can be a published, peer reviewed authority...


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ianfromoz
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Re: Fossil found in meteorite new [Re: llanitedave]
      #6278643 - 12/29/13 08:15 AM

If true it would clearly suggest that life is indeed elsewhere in the universe, but then again could it not be possible that life on Earth is the start of life within the universe, i.e first life?
After all life had to start somewhere, so why not here?


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llanitedave
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Re: Fossil found in meteorite new [Re: ianfromoz]
      #6279029 - 12/29/13 12:02 PM

Why not? It's an intriguing question for science fiction, but there's no way to express it as a testable scientific hypothesis at the moment.

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Ravenous
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Re: Fossil found in meteorite new [Re: ianfromoz]
      #6280428 - 12/30/13 03:39 AM

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could it not be possible that life on Earth is the start of life within the universe, i.e first life?



Sure. In fact that's a reasonable guess - after all it's taken this long for metals and other heavy elements to increase in quantity, through stellar nucleosynthesis and so on.

It always struck me as odd that various science fiction writers seem to just assume that there are ten-billion-year old civilisations out there, which would have originated when there was very little else in the universe but Hydrogen and Helium.

Then again, what I just wrote has more than just a few assumptions too!


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Re: Fossil found in meteorite new [Re: Ravenous]
      #6280971 - 12/30/13 12:06 PM

Ten billion would be kind of old, but there's no logical reason why civilization-supporting star systems can't be as much as two or three billion years older than ours.

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Re: Fossil found in meteorite new [Re: Glassthrower]
      #6296484 - 01/06/14 05:24 PM

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Journal of Cosmology is well known in the planetary science community....as being the National Enquirer in the world of science journals.




That's giving the Journal of Cosmology too much credit. At least the Enquirer gets one right once in a while. I'd say more like the "Weekly World News" of "science" journals.

"Space aliens ate my dog" etc...


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Re: Fossil found in meteorite new [Re: rdandrea]
      #6296576 - 01/06/14 06:11 PM

The "Mad Magazine" of journals...?

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Glassthrower
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Re: Fossil found in meteorite new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #6296671 - 01/06/14 06:51 PM

Journals like this one do play a valuable role in science - by showing us how science can go wrong. Very educated people can make fundamental mistakes. The key mistake in this story is that the original specimen was never verified as a meteorite and is not a meteorite. The rest of the paper is moot.

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Re: Fossil found in meteorite new [Re: Kon Dealer]
      #6307926 - 01/12/14 11:22 AM

1) Is it a meteorite? YES NO

2) If a meteorite, is it extra-terrestrial origin? YES NO

3) IF extra-Terrestrial, Mars? Venus? Seti Alpha 6? YES NO

Pesse (Why make it more complicated?) Mist


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Glassthrower
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Re: Fossil found in meteorite new [Re: Pess]
      #6310675 - 01/13/14 05:01 PM

1) NO.

2) N/A (see #1 above)

3) Cygnus X-1



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