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tim53
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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: rmollise]
      #5667679 - 02/07/13 07:07 PM

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Who would you sell such things to?




I wouldn't need to sell many of anything if the tools to make things didn't cost much, didn't take up an inordinate amount of space, and I didn't have to pay rent for that space.

Rotating rings and tubes would be a nice thing to see remain available.

I'd still rather see a modern Newtonian than yet another SCT on the market...

...did I say that out loud?

-Tim.

Edited by BRisley (02/07/13 11:31 PM)


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: tim53]
      #5667716 - 02/07/13 07:30 PM

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Rotating rings and tubes would be a nice thing to see remain available.

I'd still rather see a modern Newtonian than yet another SCT on the market...

...did I say that out loud?

-Tim.





Edited by BRisley (02/07/13 11:33 PM)


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: tim53]
      #5667735 - 02/07/13 07:44 PM

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I wouldn't need to sell many of anything if the tools to make things didn't cost much, didn't take up an inordinate amount of space, and I didn't have to pay rent for that space.




With a little juxtaposition, you have just explained why those big old Gem mounted scopes were left by the wayside. My "modern" 12.5 inch Newtonian is F/4, sits on Dobsonian mount and requires about 20" x 20" patch of seat space or floor space and can be setup in less than 10 minutes.. My "classic" 12.5 inch Equatorially mounted Newtonian takes two people to lift the OTA.

Jon


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5667741 - 02/07/13 07:49 PM

Yep.

While I've often said that I "don't like Dobsonians", the simple truth is that if I ever want a truly large Newtonian, I'm either going to have to have a permanent installation or I'm going to have to build a bloody Dob.

You can bet it'll track and rotate its focuser, though!
-Tim.


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: tim53]
      #5667979 - 02/07/13 10:27 PM

I'd like to see Parks come back with some retro scopes.
Like the RV-6 with push-to in 6"f8 and 8"f7. This would be very user friendly and very forgiving for collimation. And it will have tracking for astrophoto/imaging.
And the Coulter Odyssey's, only in carbon fiber and honeycomb space age materials. A nice minimalist solid tube.
And that convertible Newt-Cass f4/f15 they made.
And a aerospace division to make custom small order things with huge profits.

Robert


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: actionhac]
      #5668220 - 02/08/13 01:11 AM

Parks would probably be around now if they used a little business sense and realized that their prospective customers do like dobs and started offering them in their lineup of scopes, at reasonable prices. But that was the problem - their prices weren't reasonable, their bottom of the line "Astrolight AZ6 System" went for $799! For $1050, the EQ6 didn't even have a Clock Drive. I think they were too stuck up on their brand name and not paying attention to how much more the competition offered for the same prices. Throw in a bad economy where everybody wants value for their money and there you have it - another one bites the dust.

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Re: Parks Technical Service [Re: tim53]
      #5668362 - 02/08/13 05:59 AM

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Yep.

While I've often said that I "don't like Dobsonians", the simple truth is that if I ever want a truly large Newtonian, I'm either going to have to have a permanent installation or I'm going to have to build a bloody Dob.

You can bet it'll track and rotate its focuser, though!
-Tim.




Tracking is nice but Dobsonians really don't need a rotating focuser..

Jon


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5668402 - 02/08/13 07:14 AM

I dealed with Parks many times over the years in the 80's and 90's. I had them build me a OTA around a Telescopics 12.5" F/8 mirror i had waited on for about 2 years. Telescopics closed the doors soon after i got my mirror. It took many calls and had to get SKY-Tele on Telescopics butt to get my mirror. Parks did a great job on the OTA and rotating rings, but that OTA was a back breaker at around 140 lbs.

I always loved the Parks tubes.

Chas


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: tim53]
      #5668523 - 02/08/13 09:07 AM

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I wouldn't need to sell many of anything if the tools to make things didn't cost much, didn't take up an inordinate amount of space, and I didn't have to pay rent for that space.

Rotating rings and tubes would be a nice thing to see remain available.

I'd still rather see a modern Newtonian than yet another SCT on the market...

...did I say that out loud?

-Tim.




Have at it then...but I wouldn't borrow out of my 401K to do it. Your market will be the size of Parks'


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: rmollise]
      #5668558 - 02/08/13 09:23 AM

Quote:

Quote:


I wouldn't need to sell many of anything if the tools to make things didn't cost much, didn't take up an inordinate amount of space, and I didn't have to pay rent for that space.

Rotating rings and tubes would be a nice thing to see remain available.

I'd still rather see a modern Newtonian than yet another SCT on the market...

...did I say that out loud?

-Tim.




Have at it then...but I wouldn't borrow out of my 401K to do it. Your market will be the size of Parks'




Rather than assembling telescopes, making all the classic style components such as tube end rings, rotating rings, saddles and Long F# tubes etc. etc. would be a better marketing strategy. Parks component prices were a lot better than the Scope prices.

ATM's and Classics owners will always be interested in new build and replacement parts. I'd very much like a set of setting circles and pointers for a one inch shaft GEM.
I had been counting on Parks to buy those because they were the last vendor that sold them.


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: actionhac]
      #5668681 - 02/08/13 10:41 AM

Bob,
I love your sentiment, I have never heard such better expressed.


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: terraclarke]
      #5668691 - 02/08/13 10:50 AM

My only experience with them were their eps. Not the new ones but the pre-1980 ones. They made some nice eyepieces. I just gave a friend back a nice 32 mm Erfle so he would again have a complete collection. It was a beautiful eyepiece. He gave me a Unitron porro prism in mint condition in exchange and I needed it to complete my collection of Unitron accessories, but the biggest motivation was how much I knew he missed that eyepiece and that made me happy to do that. It reminded me of that military surplus ep that I gave up and have missed ever since (in that other thread a started a few days ago).

Terra


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5668720 - 02/08/13 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Yep.

While I've often said that I "don't like Dobsonians", the simple truth is that if I ever want a truly large Newtonian, I'm either going to have to have a permanent installation or I'm going to have to build a bloody Dob.

You can bet it'll track and rotate its focuser, though!
-Tim.




Tracking is nice but Dobsonians really don't need a rotating focuser..

Jon




They do if you want to take long exposures of faint fuzzies!

-Tim.


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: rmollise]
      #5668724 - 02/08/13 11:03 AM

Quote:

Quote:


I wouldn't need to sell many of anything if the tools to make things didn't cost much, didn't take up an inordinate amount of space, and I didn't have to pay rent for that space.

Rotating rings and tubes would be a nice thing to see remain available.

I'd still rather see a modern Newtonian than yet another SCT on the market...

...did I say that out loud?

-Tim.




Have at it then...but I wouldn't borrow out of my 401K to do it. Your market will be the size of Parks'




Oh, I wouldn't! But having Parks' market size would be just right, IMHO.

-Tim.


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: Mirzam]
      #5669927 - 02/08/13 10:53 PM

Thank you Mirzam! If anyone has an answer I'm sure it would be someone from this group. So much accumulated knowledge!

I was really looking for some replacement parts and thought that the technical folks might be able to lead me there.

The search goes on....


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: joerbiker]
      #5670016 - 02/09/13 12:50 AM

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Thank you Mirzam! If anyone has an answer I'm sure it would be someone from this group. So much accumulated knowledge!

I was really looking for some replacement parts and thought that the technical folks might be able to lead me there.

The search goes on....




So what precisely are you looking for?


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: dgreyson]
      #5670283 - 02/09/13 08:24 AM

A couple of simple items, the dust caps, an owners manual, and lastly the "pan" handles for the Parks heavy duty tripod.

If I had the manual I could be more specific on the pan handles. They don't appear to attach as regular slow motion controls would.

I appreciate any help/direction you can provide!


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: joerbiker]
      #5670759 - 02/09/13 01:29 PM

Someone makes bigger plastic dustcaps, I disremember the vendor but thats commercially available. the manual and pan handles dunno, do you have a photo of what a pan handle is?

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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: dgreyson]
      #5670949 - 02/09/13 03:56 PM

These dust covers are very nice:

Astrozap dust covers

JimC


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Re: Parks Technical Service new [Re: dgreyson]
      #5671515 - 02/09/13 10:26 PM

The only photo of the handles are Parks HD Tripod

I'm sure I could make something if I had a better idea of what they looked like.

That's why I'm hoping to find some owners manuals or other documentation.

Thanks!


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