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Jarrod
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Nikon AE 12x50mm
      #5690134 - 02/20/13 02:33 AM

B&H currently has these for $125 net to the door (after $25 free gift card).

Those who have been around the forum for awhile will know that these were ranked very highly in EdZ's benchmark of small binoculars. Among the highest, aside from the significantly more expensive reference binoculars, in fact.

Mine are on the way. I plan to put the $25 toward the 7x35s just as soon as B&H sends me the code.

Five binoculars in one month.

Edited by Jarrod (02/20/13 02:41 AM)


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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: Jarrod]
      #5690209 - 02/20/13 05:29 AM

I am still amazed by what a fine binocular the Nikon 12x50 AE is. I've had mine since April 2008. It is not the same as the Fujinon 10x50 FMT-SX. However, the Nikon performs very well in comparison, especially when I put it on my monopod.

Enjoy.


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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: Jarrod]
      #5690417 - 02/20/13 09:09 AM

Quote:

Five binoculars in one month.




I just won two binoculars off of eBay, in the past week.

It's a disease for which there is no cure.

Stan

Edited by hallelujah (02/20/13 09:11 AM)


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Jarrod
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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: Man in a Tub]
      #5690428 - 02/20/13 09:14 AM

I was waffling between these and the Nikon AE 10x50s for some wider astronomical views than my larger binoculars provide. Of course the 10x50 gives a wider view, but the benchmark indicates that the 12x50 outperforms the 10x50 by a fair bit in some critical areas, so I was already leaning that way. The extra $25 made the decision that much easier.

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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: Jarrod]
      #5690886 - 02/20/13 01:22 PM

Jarrod,
I've not tried the AE, but have used a 12x50 a lot. It hits a very sweet spot with just a little bit of ad hoc support. 10x is often said to be the hand holding maximum, but of course there is a higher category for the demon possessed! 12x50 will show just faint tantalizing traces of resolution on a surprising range of objects, very exciting in my opinion.
Ron


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Jarrod
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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: ronharper]
      #5700524 - 02/25/13 08:28 PM

Has anybody ever experienced anything like this?

My binocular was to be delivered by UPS today. I received notification that it was delivered to my doorstep at 1:17pm. When I got home from work, IT WASN'T THERE.

My brain immediately went to a dark place. I called UPS to tell them my package had been stolen. I had to first go through the automated system, which helpfully informed me that the package had been delivered and that this was the last info they had about it. Then I pressed 0 to be directed to a human. The woman who I spoke with told me that the package had been delivered to the door, then later in the afternoon picked back up by the driver and taken back to the local depot! There was no explanation. I'm not sure who was more taken by surprise by this, me or the customer service rep.

Any speculation on what was going on? I am at a complete loss.


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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: Jarrod]
      #5700561 - 02/25/13 08:58 PM

Quote:

The woman who I spoke with told me that the package had been delivered to the door, then later in the afternoon picked back up by the driver and taken back to the local depot! There was no explanation. I'm not sure who was more taken by surprise by this, me or the customer service rep.

Any speculation on what was going on? I am at a complete loss.




The only think I can think of is that the package required a signature and the driver erroneously left it on your porch and then thought better of it.

Let us know what you find out.


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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: Jarrod]
      #5700570 - 02/25/13 09:03 PM

This is strange. It could be one of two things. The UPS driver is incompetent or a signature was required. However, to return and pick a package back up is really odd.

When something like this happens to me I go as far to the top of the company as possible to get an answer. You might also report it to B&H.

Best wishes,
Frank


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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: DarkDisplay]
      #5700640 - 02/25/13 09:45 PM

Maybe the delivery person was just doing the right thing by not leaving the package at the doorstep where it could potentially be stolen. At least you know it is at the depot.

Andrew


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Jarrod
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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: DarkDisplay]
      #5700648 - 02/25/13 09:49 PM

UPS called me back to say that one digit of the house number was wrong on the shipping label. The driver figured it out, and delivered it anyway. But this apparently triggers some sort of charge from UPS to B&H. B&H declined the charge and opted for the package to be returned to them instead (which does not generate a charge). So the driver had to come back and pick up the package!

I would blame myself, but the bizarre thing is I don't type my address into the B&H orders - this comes out of my B&H login account. I just checked the box from my last B&H order (earlier this month) and it has the correct address on the shipping label. Checked my B&H account and sure enough my record now has one digit of my house address wrong. No idea how that happened. UPS is now trying to find the package before it leaves town...


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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: Jarrod]
      #5700659 - 02/25/13 09:59 PM

What a mess. This is what happens when a little common sense is not used. You paid for item. Item delivered. You should be using your 12x50's tonight, weather permitting. I hope it works out well for you.

Best wishes,
Frank


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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: DarkDisplay]
      #5701667 - 02/26/13 01:18 PM

Sorry to learn of your plight,Jarrod.

At least the "official explanation" makes some kind of sense,and definitely less sinister than one or two alternatives that crossed my mind before your thoughtful clarification.

Better luck next time !

Kenny


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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: KennyJ]
      #5702276 - 02/26/13 06:54 PM

Thanks. They did get it off the truck last night and I was able to drive to the depot and pick it up this afternoon. The people at the depot were understandably puzzled, when they noted the big "return to sender" label stuck on the side of the box. I had to go through the whole explanation for them, but they did hand over the box.

Dark and rainy outside, so no first light tonight I'm afraid.


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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: Jarrod]
      #5702350 - 02/26/13 07:50 PM

Let us hope that this will be the beginning of Good Things to come.

Take a look outside tomorrow & let us know how things look during the daytime.

Stan


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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: hallelujah]
      #5702645 - 02/26/13 10:52 PM

Quote:

Take a look outside tomorrow & let us know how things look during the daytime.

Stan




Stan!

You should have prefaced that remark with "Take two aspirin..."



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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: Man in a Tub]
      #5702723 - 02/26/13 11:46 PM

Quote:

Stan!

You should have prefaced that remark with "Take two aspirin..."






Todd,

After what he's been through, I thought a little encouragement would be less of a bitter pill to swallow.

Stan

Edited by hallelujah (02/26/13 11:49 PM)


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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: hallelujah]
      #5703285 - 02/27/13 11:08 AM

Thanks guys, for lifting my spirits.

Just had first light with these outside on a cloudy day. I'm happy with the purchase overall, but of course there are some tradeoffs at this price point. The main nit I have to pick is there is a noticeable (surprising, even) amount of barrel distortion across a good portion of the field. They are very sharp and bright, however, and there isn't a lot of field curvature. I was just observing a jay from 50 yards and the view was impressive. Very 3-dimensional (which was nice, but maybe a side-effect of the barrel distortion?). Nice contrast as well. I find them easy to hand-hold which is wonderful - at 12x I was expecting more shake.

I've got no complaints about the mechanics at all - very impressive. Especially for a $125 set of bins. The focusing ring is very comfortable and just about the perfect "stiffness" for my tastes. The diopter adjustment is brilliantly designed - very easy to move while still holding the bin steady so you can see what the heck you are doing (even handheld at 12x). There is no play in either adjustment. The eye cup adjustments are a joy, but one note to make here is that the eye pieces are recessed by 2-3mm from the rim of the cups, which does appreciably reduce the usable eye relief for glasses wearers. But I can just see the field stop in the fully retracted position and with my glasses in a comfortable place on my face, so that's not a big issue for me. If you have a strong prescription you might get slight vignetting.

Looking forward to a star test, but the weather is nasty so I've set my expectations low for that.

Edited by Jarrod (02/27/13 11:32 AM)


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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: Jarrod]
      #5703367 - 02/27/13 11:56 AM

Hi, Jarrod, it's good to hear you're liking your new binoculars.

Regarding the "barrel distortion" you see, it's a common angular geometric distortion your eye perceives as you pan. This is common in binoculars that don't add a certain amount of pincushion distortion to the eyepiece design. I've seen this in the Nikon AE 8x40 but my Nikon 8x30 EIIs correct this effect with a greater amount of added pincushion. It's just a design parameter; some people are more sensitive to this than others.

If you're interested, there is a great analysis of this effect by Holger Merlitz here.

Rich


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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: Jarrod]
      #5703814 - 02/27/13 04:34 PM

Quote:

The eye cup adjustments are a joy, but one note to make here is that the eye pieces are recessed by 2-3mm from the rim of the cups, which does appreciably reduce the usable eye relief for glasses wearers.




and a good thing it is

If the lens were not recessed at least 3mm, the curvature of your eyeglasses would be making contact with the eye lens and before too long you would potentially be replacing your glasses due to scratches.

edz


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Re: Nikon AE 12x50mm new [Re: EdZ]
      #5703842 - 02/27/13 04:57 PM

Thank you. I have learned a lot from you in a relatively short time, and it continues nearly every time I visit.

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