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PeterDob
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Reged: 07/29/05

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M46 + NGC2438
      #5690924 - 02/20/13 01:38 PM Attachment (66 downloads)

It took me a while to work out this drawing, but eventually I'm happy with the result after sitting almost 2h in the cold and spending twice as much time behind the pc. I hope you are too...

Peter


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niteskystargazer
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: PeterDob]
      #5691077 - 02/20/13 02:54 PM

Peter,

Very good sketch of M-46 & NGC2438 .

CS,KLU,

,

Tom


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Puck Ja
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: niteskystargazer]
      #5691509 - 02/20/13 06:41 PM

Thanks for spending time to do such a great sketch. I love to see the halo on your stars.

M46 has been my favorite object due to the misty "sea of star" feeling. It must take you a lot of time to paint all those fine stars.

And I have never noticed NGC2438 there with my 8" Dob. Thanks to share your 18" view of it.

Edited by Puck Ja (02/20/13 06:42 PM)


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frank5817
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: Puck Ja]
      #5691653 - 02/20/13 08:01 PM

Peter,

Beautiful and eyepiece realistic.
Superb.

Frank


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Andrev
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: frank5817]
      #5691812 - 02/20/13 09:52 PM

Magnificent my friend. So nicely rendered. You are very talented in DSO's sketching. I admire you.

Andre.


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PeterDob
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: Andrev]
      #5692109 - 02/21/13 01:55 AM

Thank you so much, guys! You're really kind!

@Puck Ja: Have you already tried with a UHC or OIII filter? Because then the nebula should really leap out at you.

Peter


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Aquarellia
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: PeterDob]
      #5692141 - 02/21/13 02:37 AM

Whaw Peter,... I traveled a lot in your eyepiece ! Thank you for sharing this !

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maroubra_boy
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: Aquarellia]
      #5692182 - 02/21/13 04:41 AM

Peter, M46 is one of my favourite clusters with its line-of-sight PN. I'm not surprised you spent so long at the eyepiece as it is so rich and detailed. Your rendition with the PC is really nice. Well done mate!

Alex.


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PeterDob
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: maroubra_boy]
      #5692209 - 02/21/13 05:39 AM

Many thanks Michel and Alex! Coming from expert artists like the two of you I'm deeply moved by your compliments.

Peter


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mike73
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: PeterDob]
      #5692239 - 02/21/13 06:39 AM

I sketched M46 a while ago but used a UHC to enhance the PN, I lost some stars because of the filter but to be honest I was quite glad as from a dark site the amount of stars was almost overwhelming so congrats on completing such a trick sketch Peter!

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Jef De Wit
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: PeterDob]
      #5692431 - 02/21/13 09:49 AM

Quote:

I hope you are too...



Yes, I am! Beautiful sketch


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Aperturefever
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: Jef De Wit]
      #5693591 - 02/21/13 09:23 PM

There's something about the way Peter does his work that makes the image hugely realistic. Perhaps it't the subtle haloes on the stars, or the fact the background is not too black? Whatever the magic is he does, it's just like looking down the barrel of an eyepiece for sure.

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Puck Ja
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: PeterDob]
      #5693833 - 02/22/13 12:15 AM

Quote:


@Puck Ja: Have you already tried with a UHC or OIII filter? Because then the nebula should really leap out at you.





Thanks for the hint. I did have DMG NPB (similar to OIII) and Orion Ultrablock. But I have never thought about using it on M46 since I was not aware of a PN there. I will give it a try later.


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PeterDob
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: Aperturefever]
      #5694067 - 02/22/13 06:28 AM

Quote:

There's something about the way Peter does his work that makes the image hugely realistic. Perhaps it't the subtle haloes on the stars, or the fact the background is not too black? Whatever the magic is he does, it's just like looking down the barrel of an eyepiece for sure.




Wow! What a wonderful comment! Thank you so much...

Well, let me share some of my little secrets with you. Obviously my backgrounds are never black but different shades of grey depending on magnification and/or filter use. I also take a picture of my original drawing because this way you get a much livelier background. The background of a scanned image is much more "sterile" and "flat", whereas in reality the shades of the background are never truly uniform, at least as far as my personal experience is concerned.

Secondly, as you also noticed, I put faint haloes around the brighter stars to make them look more "alive". With really bright stars I also draw the diffraction spikes.

But here's a little secret you may not have noticed yet. I never use plain white for the stars, but a light sort of grey. White is to my opinion too "flashy". There's also another way to draw fainter stars other than just drawing smaller dots: using darker colour. I found out that faint stars, even when drawn with just a 1px brush, are too "sharp" and bright when drawn with the same light-grey colour like the brighter stars. Now I even use very dark grey hues and I'm particularly fond of the result.

@Jef and Mike: also many thanks to you!

Peter


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Undermidnight
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: PeterDob]
      #5699874 - 02/25/13 01:42 PM

Peter,

Your sketches are simply amazing.

Jason


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Aperturefever
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: Undermidnight]
      #5700587 - 02/25/13 09:14 PM

Ah yes ... that's it! Light grey for the stars. You know, I stared for ages and couldn't figure it out. I've only ever used dabs of white - but that way you end up with different point sizes for stars. Your way means you can keep them all the same size. Brilliant idea Pete. And thanks for sharing it, too. Off to the art shop I go!

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mdowns
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: Aperturefever]
      #5700763 - 02/25/13 11:10 PM

Stunningly realistic presentation.When will the book come out? Your drawings are a real treasure!

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PeterDob
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: mdowns]
      #5701371 - 02/26/13 10:40 AM

Quote:

Stunningly realistic presentation.When will the book come out? Your drawings are a real treasure!




Hehehe... When an editor is willing to publish it!

Thanks a lot, guys!!!

Peter


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JimPie
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Re: M46 + NGC2438 new [Re: PeterDob]
      #5701460 - 02/26/13 11:32 AM

Peter,
Awesome simply Awesome !


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