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Re: Customer Support new [Re: ahopp]
      #5688889 - 02/19/13 01:06 PM

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Not true, a bankruptcy trusty would return all equipment/assets not owned by the 'company' to its rightful owner. It may take time to sort it out, but, it would not be liquidated, at least not on purpose. Keep good records and you should be OK.

Tony




But if there aren't perfect records and the people who were working on it are out of a job, it could be tricky for it to find its way back to you.

Had a friend who had a car in for a transmission job and the shop went bust while the car was on the rack. The car vanished and he never got it back. My speculation is that it somehow vanished into a chop-shop. I have no idea if the former owner did it or an employee or the liquidator but at any rate the car was gone.


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Re: Customer Support new [Re: Christopher Erickson]
      #5688953 - 02/19/13 01:53 PM

As I said, keep good records, your insurance company will want to see them.

Remember, if the 'company' is the only option you have for repair, then, get your scope in ASAP, and push them hard to get it back ASAP. Otherwise, do the repairs yourself, warranty be damned.

Tony


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Re: Customer Support new [Re: Christopher Erickson]
      #5689722 - 02/19/13 09:04 PM

Hello Chris,

Just type in the address and you will be fine. However, my stuff may not be worth the effort.

I sure would appreciate your opinion and advice about replacing the Meade electronics. I really hate the idea of sending the telescope away for something I could easily replace myself. I looked on the Software Bisque site and was amazed by the lack of information, or do I just not know how to find it? What do they supply, what does it look like, what do I need to supply, what will I need to build (have a friend who can machine almost anything), can I use SkyTools with it, can I use the Telescope Drive Master encoder. The only way I can figure this out is to hear from you and talk to them on the phone.

The floor plan of My Observatory and the pier I built were all configured in 1979 for an orange tube C14. Got the 16" LX200 as an upgrade because all I need to do was to make an adapter plate so I could bolt it onto the pier. The mount bolts just clear and I mean JUST clear the 12 OD of the pier.

If you ever fly into SFOIA I live and My Observatory is two miles from the terminals. Walked to work there since 1975, retired from UAL after 43 years.

Thanks,
ObservatoryCat


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Re: Customer Support [Re: ObservatoryCat]
      #5691835 - 02/20/13 10:05 PM

Told Meade to stop building the shipping containers and to not send them to me at this time.

I am exploring other options.

ObservatoryCat


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Re: Customer Support new [Re: ObservatoryCat]
      #5692080 - 02/21/13 01:06 AM

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Hello Chris,

Just type in the address and you will be fine. However, my stuff may not be worth the effort.

I sure would appreciate your opinion and advice about replacing the Meade electronics. I really hate the idea of sending the telescope away for something I could easily replace myself. I looked on the Software Bisque site and was amazed by the lack of information, or do I just not know how to find it? What do they supply, what does it look like, what do I need to supply, what will I need to build (have a friend who can machine almost anything), can I use SkyTools with it, can I use the Telescope Drive Master encoder. The only way I can figure this out is to hear from you and talk to them on the phone.

The floor plan of My Observatory and the pier I built were all configured in 1979 for an orange tube C14. Got the 16" LX200 as an upgrade because all I need to do was to make an adapter plate so I could bolt it onto the pier. The mount bolts just clear and I mean JUST clear the 12 OD of the pier.

If you ever fly into SFOIA I live and My Observatory is two miles from the terminals. Walked to work there since 1975, retired from UAL after 43 years.

Thanks,
ObservatoryCat




Just figured out the link problem. For some reason an extra space was appearing at the end of the URL and as soon as I removed it the link worked.

The Software Bisque system consists of two motors, two timing belt speed reduction systems, central control electronics, cables, joystick, home sensors, power supply, The Sky 6, CCDSoft, Tpoint and Orchestrate. The only thing you need to add is custom motor adapter plates for your particular mount. Many other people have done this conversion on 16" LX200 mounts and I believe that Software Bisque has mechanical drawings of the adapter plates needed to put their motors on the 16" LX200. This conversion almost makes your fork mount into Paramount. Meade's factory worm drives will very likely have more periodic error than the Paramount. I doubt if any changes would have to be made to your absolute encoder setup.

The Sidereal Technologies Servo Controller II would probably be about half the price of the Software Bisque TCS system.

I hope this helps.

If I am ever in your area, I'll look you up!


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Re: Customer Support new [Re: Christopher Erickson]
      #5692161 - 02/21/13 03:17 AM

Hello Chris,

I knocked on Software Bisque's door today yelling HELP (Actually just called them). Told my whole sad story. I think I will be able to get something going with them. Any hope at all of finding another solution makes me pull back further and further from Meade hauling my scope to Mexico perhaps forever!

Glad you got the link working.

Thanks for all of the good information.
ObservatoryCat


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Re: Customer Support new [Re: ObservatoryCat]
      #5692567 - 02/21/13 11:34 AM

Does anyone out there know if somebody makes a sling for lifting the 16" OTA? I may just try and make one myself!

Edited by ObservatoryCat (02/21/13 11:35 AM)


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Re: Customer Support new [Re: ObservatoryCat]
      #5692634 - 02/21/13 12:19 PM

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Does anyone out there know if somebody makes a sling for lifting the 16" OTA? I may just try and make one myself!




I use a game hoist from Cabella's to set up and tear down my 16 in the field but I don't think it will work for you inside of an observatory.

A 4x4 across the top of the open aperture of your Ash dome combined with a couple of hoists would work. Ash domes are very strong and the OTA assembly only weighs 125 pounds.

Or two-to-four burly guys and two short ladders.

I hope this helps.


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Re: Customer Support new [Re: Christopher Erickson]
      #5694842 - 02/22/13 02:23 PM

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There is a certain amount of risk that you might not ever get it back if they close their doors while your scope or parts of it are in their shop.

I hope this helps.




Scary but true.


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Re: Customer Support new [Re: Christopher Erickson]
      #5695031 - 02/22/13 03:52 PM Attachment (11 downloads)

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Quote:

Does anyone out there know if somebody makes a sling for lifting the 16" OTA? I may just try and make one myself!




I use a game hoist from Cabella's to set up and tear down my 16 in the field but I don't think it will work for you inside of an observatory.

A 4x4 across the top of the open aperture of your Ash dome combined with a couple of hoists would work. Ash domes are very strong and the OTA assembly only weighs 125 pounds.

Or two-to-four burly guys and two short ladders.

I hope this helps.




One more thing I did was to put a Losmandy-style dovetail bar on top of my 16 with a 3/8" threaded hole in it for a stainless steel eyebolt at the OTA assembly's center of gravity. Has worked fine for several years.


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Re: Customer Support new [Re: Christopher Erickson]
      #5695077 - 02/22/13 04:16 PM

Chris,

I like what you have done, I had planned to put my 14" in a sling, but attaching to the 5000 series plate could work. I wonder if it is designed to hold the 63#s of the 14"?

Tony


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Re: Customer Support new [Re: ahopp]
      #5695109 - 02/22/13 04:31 PM

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Chris,

I like what you have done, I had planned to put my 14" in a sling, but attaching to the 5000 series plate could work. I wonder if it is designed to hold the 63#s of the 14"?

Tony




Should be no problem.

My 16 OTA with hardware is about 135 pounds and even a single stainless steel 1/4-20 eyebolt holds it with gobs of margin to spare. The shear strength of a 3/8" SS eyebolt is probably around 600 pounds or more and the four 8-32 radius block mounting screws can probably handle over 300 pounds without a problem.

After all, the dovetail bar and radius blocks are designed to hold the weight of the OTA and accessories if the OTA were mounted on a GEM mount with that same dovetail bar mounted on the bottom instead of the top...

Edited by Chris Erickson (02/22/13 04:33 PM)


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Re: Customer Support new [Re: Christopher Erickson]
      #5695943 - 02/23/13 12:53 AM

Agreed, I am going to go this route, thanks.

Tony


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Re: Customer Support new [Re: ahopp]
      #5701561 - 02/26/13 12:21 PM

Hello Everyone,

Here is what I have accomplished to try and find the cause of the problems.

Inspected every millimeter of the wires from the DB-25S connector at tPhe motherboard to the connection on the declination servomotor control board. This included removing all tywraps. Only damage found was slight crushing by the tywraps and the cover at the RA axis.

Meggered the above wires (250 volts) wire to wire and wire to connector shell. All were infinity except for the DB-25S connector at the motherboard which had 50 mega ohms. Makes me wonder what is going on there but I do not think it will cause problems. Real pain to replace.

Checked continuity of above wires, all good.

Inspected all other wires, as possible, found no faults.

I inspected the hand box, declination servomotor control and mother boards with my microscope. Declination servomotor control board was okay, Hand box was okay, found one tiny drop of solder that was across two traces but it had not done any damage, no copper showing. Main board had one bad joint. Negative pin for the back-up replaceable battery had solder all around it that looked nice and shiny on the outside but the pin, which was sticking through, was loose. Could not fall out because the battery holder kept it in place. Fixed solder joint and replaced battery, which was dead. Can not remove the other boards with the scope mounted.

I got a borescope (only good way to do it), and looked at the connectors on the RA servomotor control board, all good, connectors and all wires looked secure.

I had noticed, but made it a low priority, that there was a glob of silicone sealant on the connector at the dec motor encoder. Thought it was just an extra security feature. I looked there in the past and did not see any bare wire. The RA encoder had no sealant on it. Removed the sealant and all four of the wires fell off! Part of the wire end connector was broken and sprung up so that it did not lock the wires in place. Sealant was there to keep them in place. Removed the dec motor so that I could put it under the microscope and also work on it easier. Could not remove the broken piece of the wire end connector from the receptacle on the encoder. Reinstalled the wires, folded down the broken and sprung up piece and resealed. I do not feel this was the cause because the connector look good except for the sealant. 

The above were the last steps I could think of to do, so reconnected everything back up and scope ran for about 50 minutes without any craziness before I had to shutdown. Not a good test, but a start. 

ObservatoryCat


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Re: Customer Support new [Re: ObservatoryCat]
      #5715425 - 03/05/13 09:40 PM

Hello Everyone,

Had six and one half hours of trouble free operation last night (03/04/2013) before the stratus clouds rolled in off the bay. That makes 9 hours total now. Sure is nice. Only problem is that I don't feel like I can ever be away from the scope when it is running. Wish there was some automatic procedure that I could activate when I want to leave for a little while that would stop any excessive slewing.

Really do not know what I did to get it operating correctly.

ObservatoryCat


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Re: Customer Support new [Re: ObservatoryCat]
      #5753197 - 03/24/13 02:32 AM

Hello Everyone,

Have you gotten any good images of or looks at Comet PanSTARRS? I cannot see it from My Observatory due to trees but have seen it with binoculars and taken some images of it with my Nikon D700 and a 70-300mm lens. Sure is fun to see a comet with a tail for such a long continuous time, first saw it on the 12th. This is a first for me, to be able to watch one for so long in twilight.

There is a fairly bright supernova in M65 (16 magnitude). I got an image of it on the same night that it was discovered (03/22/2013) but the moon is getting very close now. Have already had 61 people look at my posted image.

The telescope is working great, no runaways. Replaced the broken receptacle on the wires that attach to the declination servomotor encoder, used Stabilant 22, and have completed the telescoping bar that fits in the shutter tracks so that I can lift the OTA with a small hoist. Just need the ambition and some cloudy skies to get to work and take it down so I can reposition the RA servomotor board.

ObservatoryCat


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Re: Customer Support new [Re: ObservatoryCat]
      #5755509 - 03/25/13 04:52 AM

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...The telescope is working great, no runaways. Replaced the broken receptacle on the wires that attach to the declination servomotor encoder, used Stabilant 22, and have completed the telescoping bar that fits in the shutter tracks so that I can lift the OTA with a small hoist. Just need the ambition and some cloudy skies to get to work and take it down so I can reposition the RA servomotor board.

ObservatoryCat




Excellent news!


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