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Masvingo
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Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: starman876]
      #5745545 - 03/20/13 04:23 PM

Johann, you need UA...........

Unitronics Anonymous


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starman876
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Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: Masvingo]
      #5745566 - 03/20/13 04:32 PM

wow, how many people belong there?

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Masvingo
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Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: starman876]
      #5745577 - 03/20/13 04:36 PM

I'm guessing a fair few from this forum!

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Happy-Idiot
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Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: Joe Cepleur]
      #5746063 - 03/20/13 07:53 PM

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Enjoy the hobby and stop telling people how to think, behave and what to do!




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Except, of course, that if people are offended by drive-bys, tell them they are obliged to suffer the indignity, or, more simply, that they should not feel as they do. At the end of this discussion, there remains a large contingent of silenced members who find drive-bys offensive, and who wish to treat others, and be treated by them, with what they believe are everyday good manners.


At the bottom of members profile page there is an ignore user highlight if someone is offended they could use it. Or choose not to view the post. Language, images, innuendos, are the standard for offensive but not all find drivebys offensive. If Astronomics decides drivebys are offensive then so be it, it is their site and I am a guest whether I I disagree or not. But I have a hard time accepting the few that think the tail can wag the dog.

You Guys and Gals are good people none the less. I know the picture break was off topic but it goes to show we can all still get a chuckle after a small debate. See what you started Fred(Amicus)! Now there will have to be two classic forums, Union Classics and Confederate Classics.

I like Vanilla ice cream so all you Chocolate lovers can get brain freeze for all I care.


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kansas skies
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Reged: 12/02/12

Loc: Kansas, USA
Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: Happy-Idiot]
      #5746420 - 03/20/13 10:10 PM

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I like Vanilla ice cream so all you Chocolate lovers can get brain freeze for all I care.




I personally prefer strawberry ice cream, but I really don't care for any of the accessories - nuts, whipped cream, cherries, etc...

Let me guess - I'm off topic again...

Bill


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starman876
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Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: kansas skies]
      #5746450 - 03/20/13 10:18 PM



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starman876
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Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: starman876]
      #5746451 - 03/20/13 10:19 PM

I tried to get this back on topic, but I see I failed

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starman876
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Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: starman876]
      #5746459 - 03/20/13 10:21 PM

so how many of you feel your classic scopes have increaed in value?

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kansas skies
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Reged: 12/02/12

Loc: Kansas, USA
Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: starman876]
      #5746565 - 03/20/13 11:08 PM

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I tried to get this back on topic, but I see I failed




So, what was it that we were discussing???


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so how many of you feel your classic scopes have increaed in value?




I probably paid way too much for that to ever happen...

Bill


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Joe Cepleur
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Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: starman876]
      #5746616 - 03/20/13 11:36 PM

EBay is a punishing marketplace for classic C8 prices. Scopes get listed high, don't sell, and are relisted lower and lower until they find buyers. Prices are not rising. Astrophotographers want the latest C8s, so the older ones remain good values for visual astronomers. 

The Towa 60mm Jason 313 is still a bargain. The chinsy 1970s department store aesthetics hide optics and mechanicals made to much higher standards. Buy one if you can. I still see them complete with mount for $50 to $150. 


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hottr6
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Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: amicus sidera]
      #5747487 - 03/21/13 12:21 PM

I haven't read this thread, so it may already have been stated, but I have found that the cost of shipping has risen dramatically. Shipping large boxes has really added to the price tag. So the price of classic gear may not have risen, but with increased shipping costs, it may appear as though prices have risen.

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highertheflyer
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Loc: Ft. Worth, Texas
Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: hottr6]
      #5747787 - 03/21/13 02:56 PM

I too believe the cost of shipping a large part of moving a classic telescope following a sale.
I have a friend that traveled from Texas to Ohio to pick up an LX200 10 inch and yes, the cost of gasoline at over 3.50 USD per gallon was a factor.
But if I were a buyer, I would travel to the prospective purchase, up close and personal, with at least operation and star testing too boot.
For me, I have a Unitron 510, a 5"/F16 photo equatorial with field tripod and 120ac drive that could be for sale if the sale would be based on an individuals inspection with local pick up here in Fort Worth Texas.
I was hoping to take the scope to NEAF 2012, but found the total price, even for just the gas, would have been 600 USD to and from and not considering the four nights stay to and from.
So as an old retired pilot, I remember the days of having to fly to places at my own expense for reviewing the aircraft and logbooks to determine if the airplane was a good buy. Those transportation costs ate up a lot of money, but was a necessary part of the satisfaction for the seller and the buyer.
So too, does the transportation costs play a factor with these telescopes and gosh, simply a part of the costs.

Jim


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starman876
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Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: highertheflyer]
      #5747935 - 03/21/13 04:09 PM

Personnaly I do not care about shipping costs if I want the scope. I feel that is part of doing business just like paying taxes. Scope prices are rising because people are willing to pay higher prices for what they always wanted and now can afford it. You all must remember the economy follows the baby boomers. As they get older and more prosperous they start buying the things they always wanted when they were young. Harleys, muscle cars, and vitage scopes they always had their eye on, but could not afford when they were younger. If you follow the market you will see that is so true. I was lucky when I was younger. I had money and bought those cars everyone wanted. Bought the great stereo gear no one else could afford. However, even though I could afford the scopes and liked astronomy I was too busy having fun to play with telescopes. Now I am making up for that because I found I love optics that much and now buy everything I can get my hands on. Next is one of those TMB 800/100.

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sgorton99
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Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: starman876]
      #5748077 - 03/21/13 05:20 PM

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Now I am making up for that because I found I love optics that much and now buy everything I can get my hands on. Next is one of those TMB 800/100.




Great


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kansas skies
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Reged: 12/02/12

Loc: Kansas, USA
Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: hottr6]
      #5748126 - 03/21/13 05:37 PM

What I can never figure out is the seller that refuses to ship. I can understand the reluctance to ship out of country, but otherwise, it's just part of doing business. I think some people worry about negative feedback that might result from the high cost of shipping, but if everything is spelled out up front, there should be no problems.

Bill


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starman876
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Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: sgorton99]
      #5748139 - 03/21/13 05:42 PM

I knew you would like that statement

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starman876
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Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: kansas skies]
      #5748141 - 03/21/13 05:43 PM

I have found if you talk to the seller and make arrangements for shipping a good portion of the time they will ship.

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sgorton99
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Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: starman876]
      #5748176 - 03/21/13 06:00 PM

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I knew you would like that statement




I think someday we will see Johann on one of those hoarder shows .


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Joe Cepleur
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Reged: 03/18/10

Loc: Dark North Woods
Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: sgorton99]
      #5748242 - 03/21/13 06:31 PM

I shipped an orange tube C8 with its base and fork from the East Coast to Larry Beach in Iowa for refurbishing. United States Postal Service Parcel Post took several weeks, but even with the overages for size and weight and insurance, the cost was modest, a quarter or a third of the shipping companies. If you have the time, the cost of shipping is not an issue.

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hottr6
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Re: Classic telescope prices on the rise? new [Re: starman876]
      #5748249 - 03/21/13 06:34 PM

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Personnaly I do not care about shipping costs if I want the scope........Next is one of those TMB 800/100.



I may have a TMB 800/100 for sale.... you can have it for $100.

Shipping will be $5,000.


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