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Jawaid I. Abbasi
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Loc: LEVITTOWN, PA
Looking for PANSTARR
      #5723051 - 03/09/13 09:54 PM

At around 7:00pm due west around 15 to 20 degree; I saw something "NEW" ??????

Since no cold weather, Clear sky, dark sky, clean horizon and no moon in Yardley,PA and just 5 minutes drive from my house; I decided to try the comet.

I setup my P-mount on the tripod and 12x60mm (recently sold by Meade for $19) binocular and swing to west at about 15degree and as soon I looked through my binocular; BINGO... I saw something like comet !!!!

After watching about or over 20 seconds; I realized that It does not look like COMET instead it has a fat tail but very dark in colour like smoke and the body was reddish type. It was going down like setting in the west but very very slow (not like any sat or plane)

I just do not know; what was it or it was a Comet ???

ANYONE WHO WATCHED TODAY DUE WEST FOR COMET HAS SEEN IT?


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RedLionNJ
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Reged: 12/29/09

Loc: Red Lion, NJ, USA
Re: Looking for PANSTARR [Re: Jawaid I. Abbasi]
      #5723060 - 03/09/13 10:04 PM

That doesn't sound right. That sounds more like a contrail from an airplane, still high enough above the Earth to catch a bit of the setting sun.

By 7pm in your area, C/2011 L4 should have already set.


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J A VOLK
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR [Re: RedLionNJ]
      #5723089 - 03/09/13 10:25 PM

A friend and I went to a lookout in the foothills North of Los Angeles, eleveation about 1300 ft. - we had a good horizon, clear with the usual horizon haze. We are experienced observers and had 11x80 and 10x50 binos - we could not see Panstarrs.

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Jawaid I. Abbasi
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR [Re: RedLionNJ]
      #5723090 - 03/09/13 10:25 PM

No, that was no air plane for SURE but what was it, I just do not know.
Just for the information is that the CONTRAIL can be seen as white or grey in orange and white zone as I have seen several times and not in black colour.


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RedLionNJ
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR new [Re: Jawaid I. Abbasi]
      #5723119 - 03/09/13 10:50 PM

I don't know where you watch your contrails from, but I've seen them every color from bright white to almost black (including all shades of brown, orange and red), depending on the S-O-T angle...

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BrooksObs
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR new [Re: RedLionNJ]
      #5723139 - 03/09/13 11:05 PM

Jawaid, your description simply corresponds to a distant jet con trail. Reflecting the light of either the already set (for ground observers) Sun, or the twilight glow itself, con trails can take on a wide variety of colors, just as RedlionNJ indicates.

Unfortumately, there have been a rash of mistaken comet sighting posted over the past few evenings, all corresponding to folks seeing distant con trails. So far PanSTARRS itself has remained lost in the twilight for mid northern latitude observers.

BrooksObs

Edited by BrooksObs (03/09/13 11:08 PM)


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*skyguy*
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR new [Re: BrooksObs]
      #5723195 - 03/09/13 11:42 PM

Absolutely, a dark jet contrail. I was seeing the same thing close to the horizon while looking for Panstarrs this evening. I also didn't see it with my binoculars.

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Jawaid I. Abbasi
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR new [Re: *skyguy*]
      #5723224 - 03/10/13 12:08 AM

As I already have mentioned in my very first post that I have not seen the comet. Instead, it was something else.

The SMOKE that I mentioned it was "going with it" and only about 2 degree long so I know it was no contrail.

That smoke like a part of a thing..


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Jawaid I. Abbasi
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR new [Re: *skyguy*]
      #5723225 - 03/10/13 12:08 AM

As I already have mentioned in my very first post that I have not seen the comet. Instead, it was something else.

The SMOKE that I mentioned it was "going with it" and only about 2 degree long so I know it was no contrail.

That smoke like a part of a thing..


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jonathanCR
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Reged: 07/02/07

Loc: Costa Rica
Re: Looking for PANSTARR new [Re: Jawaid I. Abbasi]
      #5723320 - 03/10/13 01:43 AM

Panstarr visible from Costa Rica with 12x binos. Very faint with 7x35 binos and looks amazing with telescopes. I saw it from 5:35pm to almost 7pm central time.

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Mark9473
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR [Re: jonathanCR]
      #5723412 - 03/10/13 06:14 AM

I have to agree with some of the other posters, that what you saw was definitely a jet contrail. That's what they look like in early twilight.

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daniel_h
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR [Re: Mark9473]
      #5723461 - 03/10/13 07:23 AM

Patience panstarrs is coming, it will be unmistakable if anything like what I saw

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edwincjones
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR [Re: daniel_h]
      #5723495 - 03/10/13 08:28 AM

Quote:

Patience panstarrs is coming, it will be unmistakable if anything like what I saw






what is this patience
thing you are talking
about



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guangtou
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR [Re: edwincjones]
      #5723536 - 03/10/13 09:09 AM

These SH folks are starting to get on my nerves with their Comets Lovejoy and Lemmon and Large and Small Magellanic Clouds. They may have even gotten the better part of Panstarrs. Hey, we got the North Star!

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mercedes_sl1970
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR [Re: guangtou]
      #5723572 - 03/10/13 09:47 AM

Quote:

These SH folks are starting to get on my nerves with their Comets Lovejoy and Lemmon and Large and Small Magellanic Clouds. They may have even gotten the better part of Panstarrs. Hey, we got the North Star!




Panstarrs was terrific through 18x70s the other evening (yes, that was a gloating tone!).

Andrew

ps wouldn't mind your North Star for quicker polar alignment...


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Special Ed
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR [Re: mercedes_sl1970]
      #5723694 - 03/10/13 11:20 AM

Just a note for PanSTARRS observer wannabes--until it gets a little higher in a darker sky, you will want to use big binoculars. Observers in California who have reported seeing it with telescopes say that it was not visible with 7x or 10x binoculars. See the PanSTARRS thread in the Solar System Observing forum for more details.

I have looked the past two evenings with my 12x36 IS II's with no success. I probably should have been using the 15x70's.

BTW, be prepared to see many, many contrails on the western horizon.


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GamesForOne
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR [Re: Special Ed]
      #5723935 - 03/10/13 01:39 PM

Contrails can have all sorts of crazy optical effects. I've seen them look like dense black smoke and I once even observed and photographed one that projected a shadow on the cloud deck which the plane looked to be flying through!

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Michael Mc


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faackanders2
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR [Re: GamesForOne]
      #5724365 - 03/10/13 05:35 PM

Three Cheers for the first Northern Obserber to "See" comet Panstarr. Letthe contest begin

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Jawaid I. Abbasi
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR [Re: GamesForOne]
      #5724382 - 03/10/13 05:46 PM

Quote:

Contrails can have all sorts of crazy optical effects. I've seen them look like dense black smoke and I once even observed and photographed one that projected a shadow on the cloud deck which the plane looked to be flying through!

---
Michael Mc



Mike,
The photograph is indeed a contrail and in the photograph the contrail is a long streak while I observed a nearly 2 degree tail which was travelling with the thing and the thing was moving super super super slow . Please note I use the movement is super slow like a star but only 25 percent faster.


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Jon Isaacs
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Re: Looking for PANSTARR [Re: Special Ed]
      #5724449 - 03/10/13 06:27 PM

Quote:

Observers in California who have reported seeing it with telescopes say that it was not visible with 7x or 10x binoculars.




My buddy Kau and I spotted it last night (Saturday) from out private site in the mountains about 70 miles east of San Diego along the US-Mexico border. I spotted it with my ST-80 fitted with a 2 inch focuser and a 31mm Nagler when it was about 3 degrees above the horizon. Once we knew where it was, Kau was able to see it in his 10 x 50 Action Extremes.

Jon


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