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EFT
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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: David Pavlich]
      #5740523 - 03/18/13 11:31 AM

Very helpful. CN gets has a bad reputation because people who have negative comments or points of view get shouted down and chased off. What is the point of that?

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ahopp
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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: EFT]
      #5740772 - 03/18/13 01:52 PM

Negative comments should be put down, why come to an astronomy forum to read a bunch of negative comments.

Points of view are different, I can read those all day long, no problem.

Tony


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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: ahopp]
      #5740872 - 03/18/13 02:54 PM

Some of us do want to read negative comments.
What is the point of only reading glowing positive comments of everything. It is good to have varying critical and negative viewpoints.
Ed is correct. CN has a bad reputation for this. Folks leave here and join Y! group which is a much more favorable forum for open discussion.


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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: korborh]
      #5740916 - 03/18/13 03:11 PM

that's funny but i got a much more positive reception here than the celestron cgem yahoo group...

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ahopp
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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: orlyandico]
      #5740942 - 03/18/13 03:21 PM

I meant negative in the sense of not polite. Negative reviews that are constructive are OK in my book.

Tony


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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: korborh]
      #5741062 - 03/18/13 04:16 PM

Negative comments by people who are using the equipment in question are very valuable, so are positive comments.

But negative, or positive, comments from people who have not used the equipment are of no use at all. This applies particularly to comments that attack the honesty and integrity of people who are reporting their experience with the equipment.

Chris


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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: ahopp]
      #5741070 - 03/18/13 04:20 PM

Tony, I see you are getting LX850; are you in any kind of agreement with Meade, beta tester or otherwise of any sort? I ask this because Jason, Michael, etc. all fall in that category. Regards

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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: ahopp]
      #5741159 - 03/18/13 05:02 PM

Quote:

I meant negative in the sense of not polite. Negative reviews that are constructive are OK in my book.

Tony




Hear, hear! Negative comments are necessary and, indeed, welcome. However, when the negative comments are repeated ad nauseum, it becomes tiresome.

David


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ahopp
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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: mmalik]
      #5741373 - 03/18/13 06:34 PM

No agreements what-so-ever, so, I can say my piece without retribution...

Tony


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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: ahopp]
      #5741432 - 03/18/13 06:58 PM

Cool!

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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: mmalik]
      #5741529 - 03/18/13 07:39 PM

If the equipment works as advertised the negative comments will evaporate. Meade failed at the launch so they must shoulder some of the responsibility for the negativity.

If the equipment works well as is supported by Meade with spares, this will be game changer for many. Compare a Celestron C14 Edge HD on a CGE pro to the Meade LX850 14". Just $1000 difference with the guider and software integrated and only because Celestron dropped the price of the package $1000. . It just has to live up to the expectations and have replacement parts available. Integrated solutions are only good if the integrated parts are replaceable.


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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: mmalik]
      #5741586 - 03/18/13 08:00 PM

Quote:

Tony, I see you are getting LX850; are you in any kind of agreement with Meade, beta tester or otherwise of any sort? I ask this because Jason, Michael, etc. all fall in that category. Regards



Malik, Are you accusing the beta testers of lying? Because that's what it sounds to me that you are saying. If you have evidence of this then you should post your evidence. If not you should apologise.

I'm sick and tired of all these insinuations and half veiled allegations. If people don't trust beta testers to give honest information then they should say so so that the testers do not waste their time posting on CN.

Chris


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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: cn register 5]
      #5741637 - 03/18/13 08:19 PM

Not at all; beta testers are bound by different covenants, that's all. If you look back, it was partly the beta testers that led to the demise of LX800; how could they have signed off? Regards

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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: cn register 5]
      #5741645 - 03/18/13 08:21 PM

Gday Chris

Quote:

If people don't trust beta testers to give honest information then they should say so




Im not so sure its that simple.
As per prev posts, the beta testers are under NDAs,
hence cant always give honest opinions on whats going on,
( as it may get fixed pre release ).

Its only after general release to the masses
that the warts ( if there are any ) can be openly discussed.

Andrew Johansen Melbourne Australia


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Whichwayisnorth
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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: mmalik]
      #5741736 - 03/18/13 08:56 PM

Quote:

Not a all; beta testers are bound by different covenants, that's all. If you look back, it was partly the beta testers that led to the demise of LX800; how could they have signed off? Regards




Neither Jason or I were beta testers on the LX800. I sure hope you don't include me in that. Have people forgotten that it was me that brought all the problems out in the open that probably hurt Meade quite a bit? You could almost hear the cussing taking place in Meade HQ directed at me. I don't know who the original beta testers were either and I agree they didn't catch anything.

If you hear me say anything good at all you can be assured it is 100% true. If I say something negative you can be assured it is 100% true. If I say nothing at all it is a percentage true.

Edited by Whichwayisnorth (03/18/13 08:58 PM)


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TxStars
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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: ahopp]
      #5741935 - 03/18/13 10:20 PM

Quote:

OK, what ISO would you like. Also, would you prefer a DSO or a star field?

Tony




1) Star fields (Something with stars from edge to edge)
2) 45deg up & 1h either side of flip.
2) ISO 800
3) Starlock guided
4) RAW uncalibrated frames


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galaxy_jason
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Re: LX850 12" new [Re: TxStars]
      #5741964 - 03/18/13 10:36 PM

Collimate first, with the camera not an eyepiece

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Re: LX850 12" [Re: galaxy_jason]
      #5742115 - 03/19/13 12:38 AM

When assessing the results I would recommend that we clearly separate the mount assessment from the optics assessment.

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korborh
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Re: LX850 12" [Re: Hilmi]
      #5742199 - 03/19/13 02:26 AM

Single long exp guided RAW unprocessed frames would be really helpful.

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Re: LX850 12" [Re: korborh]
      #5742214 - 03/19/13 02:40 AM

One more request: logs (un-guided) for about 3 worm periods, to see the mount's mechanical performance isolated from starlock guiding.

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