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Ira
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Why "They" are not here yet new
      #5737450 - 03/16/13 10:04 PM

Little OOOPPPSSSS on reproduction. They died out on the way.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57574712-71/sex-in-space-may-be-dangerous-s...

/Ira


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Jason H.
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Re: Why "They" are not here yet new [Re: Ira]
      #5737512 - 03/16/13 10:40 PM

Quote:

Little OOOPPPSSSS on reproduction. They died out on the way.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57574712-71/sex-in-space-may-be-dangerous-s...
/Ira




Ahh, add another to the myriad answers to the Fermi-Hart question.

Regards, Jason H.
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"The existence of extraterrestrials is not an issue that can be determined on the basis of theory, no matter how compelling the arguments. SETI by definition is an experimental science." - Frank Drake


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Ira
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Re: Why "They" are not here yet new [Re: Jason H.]
      #5739561 - 03/17/13 08:17 PM

Of course, if they really did master interstellar space flight, they probably already solved this little problem along the way. But still...

/Ira


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Re: Why "They" are not here yet new [Re: Ira]
      #5739745 - 03/17/13 10:01 PM

What makes you think they're not here?

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Ira
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Re: Why "They" are not here yet new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5739819 - 03/17/13 10:33 PM

Men in Black, right?

/Ira


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Re: Why "They" are not here yet new [Re: Ira]
      #5740439 - 03/18/13 10:48 AM

Quote:

Of course, if they really did master interstellar space flight, they probably already solved this little problem along the way. But still...

/Ira




Blimey - that would look great on my birth certificate...

Place of Birth - interstellar space


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Ira
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Re: Why "They" are not here yet new [Re: Andy Taylor]
      #5741196 - 03/18/13 05:20 PM

"Second star to the right and straight on 'till morning."

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Re: Why "They" are not here yet new [Re: Ira]
      #5741306 - 03/18/13 06:07 PM

I think one of "them" lives down the street from me.

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Re: Why "They" are not here yet new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5741855 - 03/18/13 09:52 PM

Quote:

I think one of "them" lives down the street from me.




Hey... Wait, I live down the street from you.


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Re: Why "They" are not here yet new [Re: mich_al]
      #5741959 - 03/18/13 10:32 PM

I just wonder "they", while en route, address the most pressing question of all...

"Are we there yet?"
"Are we there yet?"


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Ira
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Re: Why "They" are not here yet [Re: llanitedave]
      #5742326 - 03/19/13 06:22 AM

And, "Can we stop? I gotta go to the bathroom."
Just added 10 light years to the travel time.

/Ira


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Otto Piechowski
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Re: Why "They" are not here yet [Re: Ira]
      #5742739 - 03/19/13 11:42 AM

The most reasonable explanation is that we have not crossed paths within historical memory due to the geometries of scale of the universe.

There are two other options which are less likely, but possible. The first is that there is no (or very little) extra-terrestrial sentience in the universe. The second is that they are here or have been here or both and for altruistic reasons (i.e. anonymous helpfulness) choose not to make themselves detectable.

These, and other very interesting and informative options have been discussed in the thread The Silence is Deafening.

Regards to all,

Otto


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Re: Why "They" are not here yet [Re: Ira]
      #5742764 - 03/19/13 11:51 AM

Quote:

And, "Can we stop? I gotta go to the bathroom."
Just added 10 light years to the travel time.

/Ira




Don't forget, "Mommy, Togg just threw up!"


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Re: Why "They" are not here yet [Re: hm insulators]
      #5742931 - 03/19/13 01:14 PM

They're probably wondering why we're not there yet. Maybe we don't exist?

That would explain a lot...


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Re: Why "They" are not here yet [Re: Otto Piechowski]
      #5743309 - 03/19/13 03:57 PM

Quote:

The most reasonable explanation is that we have not crossed paths within historical memory due to the geometries of scale of the universe.
Otto



Time being the big one, even if there are "dudes sportin' round the verse", it's only a few hunderd measly million years separating us from T-rex...don't see those running around either.


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Ira
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Re: Why "They" are not here yet [Re: shawnhar]
      #5743765 - 03/19/13 07:05 PM

Quote:

Quote:

The most reasonable explanation is that we have not crossed paths within historical memory due to the geometries of scale of the universe.
Otto



Time being the big one, even if there are "dudes sportin' round the verse", it's only a few hunderd measly million years separating us from T-rex...don't see those running around either.




They left to go see "Them".

/Ira


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Re: Why "They" are not here yet new [Re: Ira]
      #5745779 - 03/20/13 05:48 PM

maybe we are the first life forms to achieve this state of being and tech.
Maybe they have observed the way we handled finding new lands/people in our past or our tendency towards violence and decided it's not worth the risk.


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Re: Why "They" are not here yet [Re: wirenut]
      #5746966 - 03/21/13 06:59 AM

"Why" isn't Occam's Razor applied to the answers to this Q?

The geometries of scale answer is the simplest and most elegant.

all the others require a huge amount of speculation on science we don't understand yet (and won't for some time) and anthropomorphize(ing) of aliens and some stolen plots from sci-fi.

BIG universe, puny humans..


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Re: Why "They" are not here yet [Re: Mister T]
      #5747051 - 03/21/13 08:19 AM

It has been. The scale issue has come up in every thread on this topic. Occam has shaved it bald.

The problem is bald Occam is boring. It's more fun to hang out with mullet Occam, and think up hairy scenarios.



Jarad


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Re: Why "They" are not here yet [Re: Jarad]
      #5748353 - 03/21/13 07:24 PM




Zex in Space... Next question..


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