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Phil Frederick
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Loc: Seattle, WA & La Paz MX
Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: Phil Frederick]
      #5754622 - 03/24/13 06:02 PM Attachment (34 downloads)

..and for the record

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jrbarnett
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Loc: Petaluma, CA
Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: bilgebay]
      #5754747 - 03/24/13 07:02 PM

Very nice Sedat.

I've looked at these:

http://tab-rv.com/

And these:

http://www.casitatraveltrailers.com/showroom/patriot/patriot-exterior.html

By sticking with 4 cylinder motors my towing capacity (though higher with Subarus than with conventional I4 FWD and AWD vehicles) is somewhat limiting. Besdies, I have a nice collection of tents (Big Agnes Big House 6, Sierra Design Yahi 4, North Face Flying Frog 3, Mountian Hardwear Drifter 3, REI Passage 2, Marmot Hypno 2, REI quarter dome 1, etc.) and actually enjoy setting them up.

Regards,

Jim


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panhard
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Loc: Markham Ontario Canada
Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: jrbarnett]
      #5756039 - 03/25/13 12:04 PM

Here is what I will be using this summer. uplander
A small tent, cooler. thermocell scope and eyepieces. = happy happy


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bilgebay
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Loc: Turkiye - Istanbul and Marmari...
Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: panhard]
      #5756106 - 03/25/13 12:36 PM

Looks like it's upto the job Herb!

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bilgebay
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Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: jrbarnett]
      #5756240 - 03/25/13 02:01 PM

Hi Jim,

I wish I had the variety you have over there. This PI 2010 is the one and only model available to suit my purposes. I've checked the links you gave and I fell in love with the T@B.

I will contact them and get their prices. Maybe I can start importing T@B campers to Turkey, who knows

Tents are also good but this Pi 2010 will offer me better conditions...at least so I expect

Best wishes


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avarakin
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Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: bilgebay]
      #5757370 - 03/26/13 01:33 AM

After suffering with Solara for few years (try to push 10" dob tube into back seat of a coupe), last Saturday I replaced it with 2013 RAV4. I like how it looks and drives, it has better mileage than old RAV4. Best feature: flat surface once you fold down the back seats which can be used as a couch/bed. I am almost 6" and dont have any problems fitting there.

Alex


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jrbarnett
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Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment [Re: bilgebay]
      #5759364 - 03/26/13 11:01 PM

They tried to make larger T@Bs in Germany, but the timing wasn't right and the manufacturer went out of business. But they were lovely trailers.

http://squob.com/travel_trailers/tb-xl-the-burgher-king/

I think you could very easily convert a used Ford Transit Connect work van (made in Turkey!) into a camping and astronomy vehicle. Here are some conversions of that vehicle here:

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/60107-Ford-Transit-Connect-Camp...

http://kevinhornbydesigns.com/specialty_vehicles/transit-connect-conversion/#...

Ooh and this one from the Netherlands...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KjbTgJ3V-M&feature=related

Regards,

Jim

Edited by jrbarnett (03/26/13 11:14 PM)


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bilgebay
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Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: jrbarnett]
      #5759534 - 03/27/13 03:08 AM

Hi Jim,

Thank you for your input.

We have some weird tax laws here. According to the authorities a motorhome is a luxury item. Unless the van is a 5 year old one, you need to pay an additional 130% tax. Let's say the van is 20K dollars. You will pay USD 3600 VAT, which makes it $ 23600. Then you need to pay OTV ( Special Consumption Tax - whatever that means) and suddenly your cost becomes USD 54280.- And this, with only upto 1600cc engines. If your engine is 2000cc or more than it gets even crazier!

When it is a trailer, there is no tax other than 18% VAT.

What is the difference ? Go figure.

On the other hand, you can buy diamonds, the size of your fist or brilliants with zero luxury tax and almost zero VAT.

Even the tax on a 50m, 25 million Euro megayacht is much less than a motorhome.

My problem is, I don't want to pay this stupid tax and I don't want to buy a second hand 5 year old van for converting it to a motorhome.

We are working on this stupid tax issue but I am not very hopeful. Last time we spoke to the head of the tax office in Istanbul, she was very understanding and promising but then we discovered the tax increased from 80% to 130% I am afraid the next step will be 200% and trailers will be included as well

For the time being, I will be happy with my Pi 2010. The cost is approx USD 7500. It will have minimum effect on my fuel consumption and will be very easy to tow to the places I have in mind. Anything bigger could be a problem. It's like the scopes - more aperture will show more but if it is cumbersome to setup and take some hours to cool down you don't want to do it very often. A 4-5" refractor gets more use because it is easy to deploy and can be ready immediately or in less than 30 minutes.

Clear skies


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JayinUT
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Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: bilgebay]
      #6106238 - 09/28/13 04:07 PM

Older thread but thought I'd do a follow up. I ended up getting an Outback and am VERY happy with my decision. I'll be picking it up this week after it comes in. I ordered mine as I wanted certain items not on the ones in stock. Again, I am VERY happy with this decision and everything will fit form the 14 up to the 21 I am going to get and my equipment.

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kevint1
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Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: JayinUT]
      #6106274 - 09/28/13 04:35 PM

Great choice! One thing I like about this car, besides the huge amount of cargo space and the AWD, is that you can turn off all the interior lights so that when you open a door or have the tailgate open there is no light shining. I keep the tailgate open and use it as a dew canopy for my open eyepiece cases and other paraphernalia which I set on the edge of the back deck.

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SpaceConqueror3
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Loc: Phinney Ridge, Seattle, WA
Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: kevint1]
      #6106293 - 09/28/13 04:44 PM

We have a Jeep Wrangler and a VW Golf. If the roads aren't terribly bad the VW with it's hatchback and split folding seat is great, I can easily get all my telescopes and camping gear in there and still have room for my wife up front and 5 1/2 yrs in the back. I went to the Mt Kobau Star Party in Southern British Columbia a few yeas ago and elected to use my Jeep Wrangler to get my XT10 up there. It was a good decision as I spotted a couple mufflers along the way and the people who ended up camping by me lost their on the way up too.

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Megabusa
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Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: GeneT]
      #6106579 - 09/28/13 08:56 PM Attachment (10 downloads)

I like to rough it ,

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Doc Willie
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Loc: Mid-Hudson Valley, NY, USA
Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: Megabusa]
      #6106597 - 09/28/13 09:12 PM

Quote:

Life is too short to have a vehicle that is not fun. {/quote]
Hadn't noticed this thread before.


More at my car's website.

Edited by Doc Willie (09/28/13 09:36 PM)

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Megabusa
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Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: Doc Willie]
      #6106610 - 09/28/13 09:28 PM

Cool Car !Ya gotta lov it, Star Trek , USS Enterprise Space Shuttle , Let me guess , It will do Warp 3 and still get 51 MPG. Live long and Prosper

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esd726
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Loc: Rochester, IN
Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: Doc Willie]
      #6106624 - 09/28/13 09:36 PM

My size 13s

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Jeff Morgan
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Reged: 09/28/03

Loc: Prescott, AZ
Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: Megabusa]
      #6106670 - 09/28/13 10:22 PM

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I like to rough it ,





Better get elected quickly, AF1 is getting used about three weeks out of every four now. Airlines don't even push their airframes this hard. (Not to mention the nine or so C-17 transports that follow it wherever it goes.)

But at least the First Dog is limited to travel via Marine Corps (silent "p") Osprey for his travel for his occasional summons.


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Jeff Morgan
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Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: Doc Willie]
      #6106674 - 09/28/13 10:24 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Life is too short to have a vehicle that is not fun. {/quote]
Hadn't noticed this thread before.


More at my car's website.





I love it! Saw a Harley a few months ago with the Klingon Trefoil airbrushed onto the fuel tank - wish I would not have deleted the pic ...


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Megabusa
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Loc: Page ,AZ
Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: Jeff Morgan]
      #6106706 - 09/28/13 10:53 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I like to rough it ,





Better get elected quickly, AF1 is getting used about three weeks out of every four now. Airlines don't even push their airframes this hard. (Not to mention the nine or so C-17 transports that follow it wherever it goes.)

But at least the First Dog is limited to travel via Marine Corps (silent "p") Osprey for his travel for his occasional summons.


That's a good idea , I'll start taking out the V-22 that way I can put that Puppy down right there at the Star Party.

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Jeff Morgan
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Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: Megabusa]
      #6106735 - 09/28/13 11:14 PM

Quote:

That's a good idea , I'll start taking out the V-22 that way I can put that Puppy down right there at the Star Party.




VTOL has it's advantages (not to mention style points), just remember to seal the optics against dust.


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starrancher
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Loc: Northern Arizona
Re: Vehicles Use for Transporting Telescope Equipment new [Re: Jeff Morgan]
      #6106767 - 09/28/13 11:35 PM

Quote:

Better get elected quickly, AF1 is getting used about three weeks out of every four now. Airlines don't even push their airframes this hard. (Not to mention the nine or so C-17 transports that follow it wherever it goes.)

But at least the First Dog is limited to travel via Marine Corps (silent "p") Osprey for his travel for his occasional summons.




Amen ! Ain't that the truth .


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