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RocketScientist
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Has Zhumell discontinued the Z6?
      #5763465 - 03/29/13 12:33 AM

I don't see it listed on their sites any longer. On the other hand, the Z12 is on sale.

Are we seeing a trend where even very new beginners start with 10 - 12" scopes?

Edited by RocketScientist (03/29/13 11:43 PM)


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ausastronomerModerator
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Re: Has Zhumell discontinued the Z6? new [Re: RocketScientist]
      #5763589 - 03/29/13 03:16 AM

I guess that would be correct. Guan Sheng Optical who manufacture the telescopes no longer list a 6" dob on their website.

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Starman1
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Re: Has Zhumell discontinued the Z6? new [Re: ausastronomer]
      #5764148 - 03/29/13 10:33 AM

Orion still lists a 4.5" and 6" dob.

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KWB
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Re: Has Zhumell discontinued the Z6? new [Re: Starman1]
      #5765399 - 03/29/13 05:44 PM

To my knowledge,Zhumell has never marketed a Z6 in the U.S.

AFAIK only the Z8,Z10 and Z12 have ever been available from that vendor. I always thought to have a ready to go factory 6 inch F/8 dob with a 2 inch focuser and electric fan would have made an ideal first scope for the new observer to this hobby, at a very reasonable price.


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RocketScientist
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Re: Has Zhumell discontinued the Z6? new [Re: KWB]
      #5765945 - 03/29/13 11:45 PM

Quote:

To my knowledge,Zhumell has never marketed a Z6 in the U.S.




Maybe I'm misremembering. I thought they sold the full line from Z6 up to Z12, but I could be confusing them with the Orion scopes from Synta.

My sense is that the 8" f6 and 10" f4.7 - f5 have largely displaced the 6" f8 as starter scopes.


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Re: Has Zhumell discontinued the Z6? new [Re: RocketScientist]
      #5765968 - 03/30/13 12:06 AM

I'm kinda bummed the lightbridge meades don't seem to have the 8 inch version anymore. I thought that would be a good scope for someone starting out with limited space.

Not so long ago the 6 inch F8 was the starter scope. Doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I still like them myself.


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Re: Has Zhumell discontinued the Z6? new [Re: RocketScientist]
      #5766014 - 03/30/13 12:56 AM

Quote:

Quote:

To my knowledge,Zhumell has never marketed a Z6 in the U.S.




Maybe I'm misremembering. I thought they sold the full line from Z6 up to Z12, but I could be confusing them with the Orion scopes from Synta.

My sense is that the 8" f6 and 10" f4.7 - f5 have largely displaced the 6" f8 as starter scopes.



I believe you are, and are also correct as to the 8 inch F/6 basically replacing it. With it's 2 inch focuser,no increase in overall tube length and the increase in resolving power,it would be my choice of the two in a dobsonian if I could only own one telescope.


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Re: Has Zhumell discontinued the Z6? new [Re: RocketScientist]
      #5769356 - 03/31/13 05:50 PM

Yes, beginners do jump in @ the 12" level. They either fall in the love with them or sell them for a song to guys like me when they find them too big to transport.

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Sean Puett
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Re: Has Zhumell discontinued the Z6? new [Re: kfiscus]
      #5770909 - 04/01/13 02:16 PM

I started with a z8 3 years ago and there was no 6" available then. Orion had them though. 8"f6 is a great place to start. It is nearly perfect. 45 lbs or so and most people can carry the scope fully assembled. My Z12 weighs nearly twice that but, I love it anyway.

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RocketScientist
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Z12 weight and portability new [Re: Sean Puett]
      #5774458 - 04/02/13 11:42 PM

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My Z12 weighs nearly twice that but, I love it anyway. --Sean Puett




I'm curious -- can you pick up the OTA of your Z12 without assistance?


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Sean Puett
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Re: Z12 weight and portability new [Re: RocketScientist]
      #5775358 - 04/03/13 11:36 AM

Yes I can. The OTA is not heavy just unwieldy. It is 60" long and roughly 14" diameter. I put one hand back by the mirror and hook one arm under the tube about half way up. I am going to guess and say it weighs 35lbs. The base is a little heavier but, still manageable. It has a handle for one hand. I can move the whole assembled scope when I am outside. Indoors, you will run into door frames or even the ceiling if you tried. I don't try. Carrying the whole assembly is not smart and I rarely do it unless I just need to adjust my position a bit.

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Re: Z12 weight and portability new [Re: Sean Puett]
      #5775643 - 04/03/13 01:53 PM

The addition of Velstrap handles makes it a lot easier to handle the OTA.

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Sean Puett
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Re: Z12 weight and portability new [Re: tag1260]
      #5775707 - 04/03/13 02:27 PM

The OTA isn't a problem by itself. I really like the solid tube because, when I unload my truck, I pull the base out, set it down, set the OTA in and ready to collimate. Buy some bob's knobs for the secondary and even that is easy. My scope is ready to go in about the same amount of time as a truss scope is unpacked. You also don't get body heat in the light path.
This thread has taken a turn. I would suggest starting a new one if you want to discuss the Z12.


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