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starman876
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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: amicus sidera]
      #5773551 - 04/02/13 05:48 PM

That does it. Time to sell before you guys do not remember what Unitron means.

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BarrySimon615
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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: amicus sidera]
      #5773722 - 04/02/13 07:09 PM

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When the current crop of 50-year-old-plus Unitron and Questar collectors reach old age and attempt to sell their valued instruments, they may be in for a rude awakening to discover that the market for relatively small-aperture refractors and catadioptrics has itself become quite small, regardless of any supposed mechanical and optical perfection which the instruments might possess. It will not be our world any longer, in which Sputnik and Moon landings were childhood wayposts, but that of our grandchildren and great-grandchildren, who will live in a world that we likely cannot imagine at this present time, and who may well have but little attachment to, or use for, their ancestor's archaic instruments, no matter how finely crafted.

As Horace wrote, "Eheu fugaces labuntur anni"...

Fred




Boy does this paragraph ring true. I believe, as you apparently do, that the price of certain classic instruments such as Unitron telescopes is largely nostalgia driven. In our youth back in the 50's and 60's, these were highly coveted but unobtainable. Some of us in our 30's bought our first Unitrons and some waited until later. (I am now 60, but was 33 when I got my Unitron #152 4" equatorial). The young adults of today entering the hobby did not grow up in an age where Unitrons were advertised and much sought after.
I feel that interest will wane and prices will stabilize and likely even fall (factoring in inflation effect) as many of us assume the horizontal position.

Barry Simon


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starman876
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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: BarrySimon615]
      #5773766 - 04/02/13 07:21 PM

I was too busy buying corvettes and jaguars in my youth and never even considered buying a telescope. I was also too busy partying and catching my hand

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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: starman876]
      #5773916 - 04/02/13 08:15 PM

These telescopes are anachronisms now but they had their day...the 530 the past 2 years has been a real source of gratification for me as i was a really motivated amateur astronomer back in the day!

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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: terraclarke]
      #5773959 - 04/02/13 08:39 PM

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"For that matter, perhaps changing the name of the entire forum to "Classic Refractor Telescopes" might also be a generally more descriptive, and of late more accurate term."

Hmmmmmmm, ..... I like that idea. Do I hear a motion?





The Cave and Criterion owners may disagree with you on that one..


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starman876
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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: orion61]
      #5774030 - 04/02/13 09:00 PM

I think they can have a forum called the??? What was that term used not long ago???? Oh yes. Scopes that looked like garbage cans

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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: starman876]
      #5774278 - 04/02/13 10:05 PM

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I think they can have a forum called the??? What was that term used not long ago???? Oh yes. Scopes that looked like garbage cans


I thought it was "water heaters" quoting of course the late George Carlin. Mike

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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: mikey cee]
      #5774330 - 04/02/13 10:36 PM

I remember when we used to be reasonably civil to each other, and didn't denigrate each other's choice of equipment, even in jest.

Seems like a long time ago...


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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: amicus sidera]
      #5774339 - 04/02/13 10:41 PM Attachment (7 downloads)

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I remember when we used to be reasonably civil to each other, and didn't denigrate each other's choice of equipment, even in jest.

Seems like a long time ago...




Well, I agree and love all my classics! Even though I have 4 Unitrons, my 1959 Cave is on my do not sell list for that observatory when I retire! Go ahead and call it a garbage can or a water heater...

Edited by sgorton99 (04/02/13 10:42 PM)


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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: sgorton99]
      #5774363 - 04/02/13 10:52 PM Attachment (7 downloads)

Garbage Cans! *#$(&*@!!!???

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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: BarrySimon615]
      #5774365 - 04/02/13 10:53 PM

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Quote:

When the current crop of 50-year-old-plus Unitron and Questar collectors reach old age and attempt to sell their valued instruments, they may be in for a rude awakening to discover that the market for relatively small-aperture refractors and catadioptrics has itself become quite small, regardless of any supposed mechanical and optical perfection which the instruments might possess. It will not be our world any longer, in which Sputnik and Moon landings were childhood wayposts, but that of our grandchildren and great-grandchildren, who will live in a world that we likely cannot imagine at this present time, and who may well have but little attachment to, or use for, their ancestor's archaic instruments, no matter how finely crafted.

As Horace wrote, "Eheu fugaces labuntur anni"...

Fred




Boy does this paragraph ring true. I believe, as you apparently do, that the price of certain classic instruments such as Unitron telescopes is largely nostalgia driven. In our youth back in the 50's and 60's, these were highly coveted but unobtainable. Some of us in our 30's bought our first Unitrons and some waited until later. (I am now 60, but was 33 when I got my Unitron #152 4" equatorial). The young adults of today entering the hobby did not grow up in an age where Unitrons were advertised and much sought after.
I feel that interest will wane and prices will stabilize and likely even fall (factoring in inflation effect) as many of us assume the horizontal position.

Barry Simon




Once everyone who wants a Unitron (or whatever) at a good price, gets a Unitron at a good price, the bubble is going to pop. Think of it as the Telescope Bubble.


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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: sgorton99]
      #5774368 - 04/02/13 10:55 PM

Classic Caves, Criterions, and other well built classic Newtonian water heaters are cool, I only denigrate the ones that look like clothes hampers and garb.... or, excuse me, dobsonians

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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: terraclarke]
      #5774387 - 04/02/13 11:05 PM

What would life be if we could not poke fun at it. It would be a very dull world. This is a great forum and most people appear to enjoy life and have a great sense of humor. So let us all take a deep breath and relax. I do see that some take things a lot more seriously than I do. As the old saying goes. I will be laying flowers on your grave and buying your Unitrons at your estate sale

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JWW
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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes *DELETED* new [Re: starman876]
      #5774474 - 04/02/13 11:52 PM

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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: JWW]
      #5774549 - 04/03/13 12:41 AM

Are those pics of 35 and 50 gallons units?

Edited by mikey cee (04/03/13 12:43 AM)


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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: BarrySimon615]
      #5774554 - 04/03/13 12:45 AM

The fairest price is found in the largest market of knowledgeable buyers and sellers.

Where it really gets complicated is trading. How many Clark eyepieces can you get for a 4" Unitron? We should make a huge spreadsheet.


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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: JustinO]
      #5774563 - 04/03/13 12:52 AM

Frankly, I really don't care about prices.

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clintwhitman
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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: Datapanic]
      #5774668 - 04/03/13 03:13 AM Attachment (9 downloads)

How much is the 1970 155c in its Original wood, cardboard boxes and wrapping paper. I have never seen another like it for sale. And I will hopefully be able to keep it till I am done here.
Well if I died tomorrow and all my scopes got dumped off at the salvation army, I can say I have gotten every penny's worth from my collection!!
Beside I am going to be compacted and buried in my nine inch refractor and have them use the rest of my collection to backfill the hole....
(aveman
I like to think of the 65 Cave as a Lawn Cannon
The 66 El Camino is a Cowboy Cadillac


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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: clintwhitman]
      #5774770 - 04/03/13 07:02 AM

A sense of humor is a valuable asset. If we cannot laugh at/with ourselves, how can we justify laughing at/with others.

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Re: Establishing Fair Prices for Classic Scopes new [Re: clintwhitman]
      #5774863 - 04/03/13 08:32 AM

To be honest when I see pictures of those Cave's I drool. I would love to have one. Maybe someday I will. They are a beautiful scope

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