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kenrenard
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Reged: 12/13/12

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M41
      #5776398 - 04/03/13 08:41 PM Attachment (80 downloads)

Although it does feel like spring it's clear. I tried to capture M41. The center two stars look very gold. I started observing early at twilight. I need to get some spray to prevent the smearing but overall I saw some interesting shapes like a small dipper in the cluster. Even with light pollution the open clusters show very well.

Sketched with 8 inch dob with 18mm explore scientific eyepiece.


Ken


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Andrev
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Re: M41 new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5776456 - 04/03/13 08:56 PM

Nice sketch Ken.

Andre.


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frank5817
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Re: M41 new [Re: Andrev]
      #5776809 - 04/03/13 11:51 PM

Ken,

It is a fine capture of this open cluster.

Frank


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kenrenard
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Re: M41 new [Re: frank5817]
      #5777062 - 04/04/13 06:50 AM

Thank You Frank and Andre.

I still have quite a bit to learn. I need to look for a white pen to make my original circle and get some larger black paper.

I still am amazed how much more I see in the object when I try to capture it with a pencil.


Ken


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niteskystargazer
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Re: M41 new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5777477 - 04/04/13 11:37 AM

Ken,

Very good sketch of M-41 .

CS,KLU,

,

Tom


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JeanB
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Re: M41 new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5777487 - 04/04/13 11:43 AM

Quote:


I still am amazed how much more I see in the object when I try to capture it with a pencil.

Ken




Exactly my feeling, Ken! Very nice work.

Jean


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Andrev
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Re: M41 new [Re: JeanB]
      #5777557 - 04/04/13 12:23 PM

Tell me Ken, how did you digitalized your sketch ? If you used a digital camera, try taking you picture outside the house in the shade of a wall or balcony roof. You will get a more uniform illumination and will give you a better result once processed.

Andre.


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kenrenard
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Re: M41 new [Re: Andrev]
      #5777593 - 04/04/13 12:36 PM

Andre,
I actually just use an iphone and e-mail the picture at the smallest resolution to post here at cloudy nights. I welcome any advice being new at this.

I have a small black paper sketchpad and a Conte white pastel and use a CD to make the circle that is pretty much it. I have to work on getting a clipboard to hold it better and maybe get some more colors since I know I saw some gold starts last night.

Any other ideas you folks have I welcome. I am thinking about picking up a book on Astronomy sketching since I am enjoying it very much.


Thanks Again

Ken


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Andrev
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Re: M41 new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5777604 - 04/04/13 12:42 PM

Ken.

Ok for the Iphone. So next time try to take the picture outside the house. Actually I'm sure you have taken your picture close to a window as the light direction shows. You have one side much brighter than the other side causing your drawing overexposed and no contrast.

Andre.

Edited by Andrev (04/04/13 12:43 PM)


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kenrenard
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Re: M41 new [Re: Andrev]
      #5777663 - 04/04/13 01:05 PM

Thanks Andre,
I will do some testing. I can use a regular digital camera and probably get a much better result. Thanks for the advice I really appreciate it.


Ken


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Andrev
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Re: M41 new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5777751 - 04/04/13 01:35 PM

Ken.

No problem. Its what I do with my sun stencil and believe me, its change a lot depending the ambiant light and how you set the camera.

Andre


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Aperturefever
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Re: M41 new [Re: Andrev]
      #5779003 - 04/05/13 05:27 AM

Ken,
I think you've got an excellent technique to build on and your images are already fine examples of astro sketching. Here's a good link for some good advice to help you on your way: http://www.iceinspace.com.au/63-614-0-0-1-0.html
Cheers mate
Sean


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kenrenard
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Re: M41 new [Re: Aperturefever]
      #5779049 - 04/05/13 07:28 AM

Thank You Sean,

Great information.


Ken


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Andrev
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Re: M41 new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5779218 - 04/05/13 09:29 AM

Sean.

Very interesting information. Nice to see the result of each tool.

Andre.


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kenrenard
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Re: M41 new [Re: Andrev]
      #5779316 - 04/05/13 10:27 AM

I just ordered some of the tools in the article. Plus the Mat Spray and a clipboard for $30.00 I should have quite a bit of fun learning. Thank You all again for your encouragement and sharing your skills and opinions.


Ken


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Aperturefever
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Re: M41 new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5782885 - 04/06/13 11:25 PM

Glad the info helped, Ken. We're all here to help. Andre, Alex did a great job in making this resource available

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azure1961p
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Re: M41 new [Re: Aperturefever]
      #5783177 - 04/07/13 06:26 AM Attachment (14 downloads)

I took the liberty of reworking and cropping your drawing. Hope you don't mind. It better preserves your efforts.

Pete

Edited by azure1961p (04/07/13 06:26 AM)


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PeterDob
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Re: M41 new [Re: azure1961p]
      #5783968 - 04/07/13 02:48 PM

Very nice sketch, Ken! It's always a big challenge to draw open clusters because you end up spending hours behind the eyepiece.

My compliments!

Peter


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kenrenard
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Re: M41 new [Re: azure1961p]
      #5784669 - 04/07/13 08:05 PM

Quote:

I took the liberty of reworking and cropping your drawing. Hope you don't mind. It better preserves your efforts.

Pete




Pete,
I Looks much better. Thanks for the help.


Ken


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kenrenard
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Re: M41 new [Re: PeterDob]
      #5784694 - 04/07/13 08:17 PM

Thank You Peter,
I am getting some new supplies to keep learning. I have learned so much from your sketches.


Ken


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Ed D
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Re: M41 new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5841294 - 05/05/13 08:53 AM

Ken,

Very nice sketch of M41.

Ed D


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kenrenard
Carpal Tunnel


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Re: M41 new [Re: Ed D]
      #5842143 - 05/05/13 05:53 PM

Thanks Ed,
I appreciate the kind words.


Ken


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ericj
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Re: M41 new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5862029 - 05/15/13 12:12 PM

Nice sketch Ken, one of my first sketches I made back in the 1970's was M41 using a pair of binoculars.

Best,

Eric


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kenrenard
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Re: M41 new [Re: ericj]
      #5863815 - 05/16/13 06:54 AM

Thank You Eric,
I always love seeing open clusters. Especially in Binoculars.


Ken


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ericj
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Re: M41 new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5913944 - 06/10/13 08:32 PM

Hi Ken,

I recently scanned in my sketch of M41 that I made on January 2, 1975 using a pair of 8x40mm binoculars. It was the third deep-sky sketch that I ever made up to that time.

http://ejamison.net/m41.html

Clear Skies,

Eric


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kenrenard
Carpal Tunnel


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Re: M41 new [Re: ericj]
      #5913986 - 06/10/13 08:44 PM

Eric,
That is really neat. Always interesting to look back.

Ken


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ericj
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Re: M41 new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5918621 - 06/13/13 12:08 PM

Hi Ken,

Thanks, and yes it is fun to look back.

I had forgotten that I made the sketch until you posted yours.

Best,

Eric


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Mentor
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Re: M41 new [Re: ericj]
      #5922783 - 06/15/13 08:11 PM

Here's my sketch of M41 using my 4" refractor. It would be interesting to start some threads where multiple members post their own sketches of the same object, it is fun to compare impressions.

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kenrenard
Carpal Tunnel


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Re: M41 new [Re: Mentor]
      #5922787 - 06/15/13 08:12 PM

Nice sketch Ian. I like it very much

Ken


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Mentor
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Re: M41 new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5922796 - 06/15/13 08:17 PM

M41 is a nice cluster to sketch, there are some attractive pairings and I agree with you, the two central bright stars are quite a nice gold hue. It does not show up well in my sketch following compression for posting here.

I enjoy open clusters. The geometries appeal to me.


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Laurent Ferrero
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Re: M41 new [Re: Mentor]
      #5924136 - 06/16/13 05:20 PM

This is my sketch of M41 made with a 80 mm Skywatcher Equinox refractor at 23x. It's an attractive object for little diameter.

http://ekladata.com/splendeursducielprofond.eklablog.fr/perso/dessins%20ciel%...

Edited by Laurent Ferrero (06/16/13 05:20 PM)


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ericj
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Re: M41 new [Re: Mentor]
      #5971862 - 07/15/13 09:10 AM

Very nice sketch Ian thanks for posting it.

Best,

Eric


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ericj
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Re: M41 new [Re: Laurent Ferrero]
      #5971868 - 07/15/13 09:14 AM

Very nice sketch also Laurent. I agree that M41 is an attractive object for little diameter.

Best,

Eric


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