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urassner
sage
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Reged: 07/08/12

New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website
      #5778807 - 04/04/13 11:36 PM

Just noticed this on the AP website:
AP 1100
Total weight: 52.9 lbs
Capacity: 110 lbs


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Starhawk
Space Ranger
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Reged: 09/16/08

Loc: Tucson, Arizona
Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: urassner]
      #5779335 - 04/05/13 10:38 AM

Wow- and with encoder drive available!

-Rich


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frolinmod
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 08/06/10

Loc: Southern California
Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: Starhawk]
      #5779389 - 04/05/13 10:59 AM

The new AP mount is the 1100GTO. There was a highly popular GOTO mount called the GT-1100 some 14 years ago now. I do wish they had chosen a different name for the new AP mount. Oh well, too late now.

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M13 Observer
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 12/09/06

Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: frolinmod]
      #5780164 - 04/05/13 05:01 PM

Quote:

The new AP mount is the 1100GTO. There was a highly popular GOTO mount called the GT-1100 some 14 years ago now. I do wish they had chosen a different name for the new AP mount. Oh well, too late now.




I agree. I figured it should have been the AP1000GTO. AP said that there was another mount called that but I get absolutely no hits in google when searching for it or anything similar.


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Starhawk
Space Ranger
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Reged: 09/16/08

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Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: M13 Observer]
      #5780335 - 04/05/13 06:53 PM

And Celestron uses 1100 today for anything involving a C11, including CGEM, CGEM DX, CPC forks, CGEpro, or plain optical tubes. It's going to be a golden age for silly confusion.

-Rich


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mmalik
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Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: Starhawk]
      #5781070 - 04/06/13 02:46 AM

Does anyone know or have an idea of the price of 1100GTO? Not yet listed on AP site. Thx

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andysea
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Reged: 09/03/10

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Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: mmalik]
      #5781577 - 04/06/13 11:16 AM

My friend and I were just debating about that. My guess is 9~10K

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Starhawk
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Reged: 09/16/08

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Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: andysea]
      #5781745 - 04/06/13 12:27 PM

Not with the encoders. I'm guessing $11k without and $14k with the encoders.

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olivdeso
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Reged: 02/20/11

Loc: Paris FR
Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: Starhawk]
      #5782311 - 04/06/13 06:03 PM

The best photo load/weight ratio of the market.
The components weight quite the same as the 900, even marginaly lighter, which is excellent. Unique on the market in fact
Its capacity is very close to the 10micron GM2000HPS ultraportable version, but much lighter 22Kg against 28Kg for the GM2000. The AD block weight only 11.3Kg against 15Kg for the GM2000. (12Kg for the AP900)


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WadeH237
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Reged: 02/24/07

Loc: Snohomish, WA
Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: olivdeso]
      #5782326 - 04/06/13 06:11 PM

I find it amazing that about 20% of the AP1100 weight is the counterweight shaft.

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olivdeso
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Reged: 02/20/11

Loc: Paris FR
Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: WadeH237]
      #5782335 - 04/06/13 06:15 PM

Yep, the weight is where it is the most efficient. Clever!

The AD worm shaft and wheel are exactly the same as the 900. The DEC worm shaft and worm wheel are now the same as the AD. (a little bit smaller on the 900)

The main improvement is the axis diameter. It is now 80mm for both AD and DEC against 56 and 44 (resp) for the 900.


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M13 Observer
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 12/09/06

Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: Starhawk]
      #5782537 - 04/06/13 08:04 PM

Quote:

Not with the encoders. I'm guessing $11k without and $14k with the encoders.




I think you are very mistaken on the encoders, after all, there are already two pricings describing the cost in detail, one for the AP3600 and one for the AP1600. Encoders on both axis are going to set you back $7-8K in addition to the base cost of the mount.

My guess at the cost of the base AP1100 mount is going to be around $9250 +/- $500.


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andysea
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Reged: 09/03/10

Loc: Seattle, WA
Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: M13 Observer]
      #5782705 - 04/06/13 09:53 PM

If that is the actual price point I have to say it looks very attractive with the stated capacity.

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Alph
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 11/23/06

Loc: Melmac
Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: andysea]
      #5782859 - 04/06/13 10:58 PM

Quote:

If that is the actual price point I have to say it looks very attractive with the stated capacity.



That puts it close to $18,000. Indeed very attractive.


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orlyandico
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Reged: 08/10/09

Loc: Singapore
Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: Alph]
      #5782981 - 04/07/13 12:57 AM

The 10Microns (even the base level HPS 1000 which is $7250 after tax rebate, but without shipping) have encoders on both axes.. and mount modeling in the mount (no need for ProTrack, or APCC, or...)

I would probably look at a 1000 or a 2000 when it's time to get a beefier mount than the Mach1, simply due to price..


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andysea
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Reged: 09/03/10

Loc: Seattle, WA
Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: Alph]
      #5784654 - 04/07/13 07:57 PM

LOL Alph I was thinking about the 11K estimate without encoders.

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olivdeso
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Reged: 02/20/11

Loc: Paris FR
Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: orlyandico]
      #5786993 - 04/08/13 10:03 PM

Quote:


I would probably look at a 1000 or a 2000 when it's time to get a beefier mount than the Mach1, simply due to price..




Might be you could still consider an AP900. There are even some overstock prices in some shops.

The AP 900 is doing an outstanding photo job. I have been able to guide at 0.2" RMS with 70lbs load. Would the encoder make better, not sure...
Also the heaviest part of the AP900 (the AD bloc) is only 12Kg, much less than the GM1000 and even less than the Mach1. The AP900 is not so big as well.

El Oliv


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andysea
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Reged: 09/03/10

Loc: Seattle, WA
Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: olivdeso]
      #5787105 - 04/08/13 10:55 PM

The 900 is still an awesome imaging platform. I wonder what the encoders would do for people like me who have to travel to dark sites and setup every time.

Andy


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frobi6852
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Reged: 07/11/11

Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: mmalik]
      #5787462 - 04/09/13 06:44 AM

Quote:

Does anyone know or have an idea of the price of 1100GTO? Not yet listed on AP site. Thx




I sent an email to Astro-physics a couple of days ago about the price and about some of the accessories and received a reply from Christine. She told me that the 1100GTO is in production now and the price will not be determined until sometime in may and that they will start selling them sometime in July. She also told me that the mount will fit on an 8" pier, 5#, 10#,18# counterweights, mounting plates, right angle polar scope will work on the 1100GTO and will not require polar scope adapter like the 900GTO.


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coz
sage


Reged: 08/25/10

Re: New AP 1100GTO Listed on AP website new [Re: frobi6852]
      #5787567 - 04/09/13 08:30 AM

Roland said online yesterday that the price will be finalized in the next few days. He also said that the price will be very competitive with similar mounts available now.

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