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1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Barlow
      #5783159 - 04/07/13 06:12 AM


New Baader Classic Orthos 6, 10, 18mm & 32mm Plossl


BCO & BGO 6mm's

Click here for blog post review. Thanks.

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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Barlow new [Re: ibase]
      #5783585 - 04/07/13 11:22 AM

Great review Hernando

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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Barlow new [Re: ibase]
      #5783645 - 04/07/13 11:55 AM






Thank You , Leonard


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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Barlow new [Re: leonard]
      #5783672 - 04/07/13 12:11 PM

Always a pleasure to read your reviews Hernando !

I'm a wide field / long eye relief person myself, but after reading your review, I wouldn't mind trying out an Ortho sometime! I have been dead-set against them, but if the views deliver, I guess that is all that matters.

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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Barlow new [Re: hfjacinto]
      #5783758 - 04/07/13 01:01 PM

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Great review Hernando




Thanks Helder.

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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Barlow new [Re: leonard]
      #5783760 - 04/07/13 01:01 PM

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Thank You , Leonard




Thanks too.

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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Barlow new [Re: Scanning4Comets]
      #5783778 - 04/07/13 01:08 PM

Quote:

Always a pleasure to read your reviews Hernando !




Thanks Mark!

Quote:

I'm a wide field / long eye relief person myself, but after reading your review, I wouldn't mind trying out an Ortho sometime! I have been dead-set against them, but if the views deliver, I guess that is all that matters.




Mark I know you've tried a lot of eyepieces, been following your ever-changing parade of EP's and a joy to read your reviews as well. Yes you should give the BCO's a spin one of these days, there's nothing like trying out a new line of EP's as you may very well know. Thanks!

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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Barlow new [Re: ibase]
      #5783891 - 04/07/13 02:13 PM

Great review Hernando. How far does the barlow extend into the eyepiece? Will it thread on other 1.25" eyepieces as well? Or does it have special threads?

Dave


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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Barlow new [Re: russell23]
      #5783929 - 04/07/13 02:29 PM

Very interesting to read your views on these Hernando.

I was loaned a set a couple of months back and I'd agree with your assessment of them. I do find the 6mm BGO controls light scatter a little better than the BCO 6mm and the BCO 18mm seems to have slightly better light transmission than the BGO equivalent. The 32mm Classic Plossl is a decent 32mm plossl but not a great one, in my opinion. The Q-Turret barlow is really good although the optical element can't be used in eyepieces with a lower lens set in their barrels - you need around 13mm clear inside the eyepiece barrel to fit the Q-Turret optical element.

Thanks for posting the link

Edited by John Huntley (04/07/13 02:30 PM)


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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Bar new [Re: ibase]
      #5784118 - 04/07/13 03:41 PM

Hernando, Thanks for your time and effort with this review. The photos were informative. I was curious about how they would look "dewinged".

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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Bar new [Re: desertlens]
      #5784961 - 04/07/13 10:33 PM

nice review. i look forward to hearing a long tern review, like month or two post purchase. Enough time to get an above average seeing night that might show one line definitively better.

i read your blog regularly also btw


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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Barlow new [Re: russell23]
      #5785209 - 04/08/13 02:11 AM

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Great review Hernando. How far does the barlow extend into the eyepiece? Will it thread on other 1.25" eyepieces as well? Or does it have special threads?




Thanks Dave. Here are the measurements on the Q-barlow cell. 10mm for the snout & 3mm for the standard 1-1/4" thread, like what John said, 13mm clearance is needed on the 1-1/4" EP sleeve.



The threading is standard for 1-1/4" EP's and I've just tried it on TV 20mm plossl, BGO 7mm, Faworski 7mm (needs some squiggling to get inside), Celestron 7mm volcano top ortho, Celestron 20mm/32mm plossl etc. However, it will not work without the 13mm clearance such as on the Meade UWA 6.7mm (only 6mm clearance):



In which case the barlow body needs to be employed (Same case with an 82ES14mm mushroom type) .



Works great this way on the Meade 6.7mm. This is a short barlow and may vignette on longer focal length EP's.

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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Barlow new [Re: John Huntley]
      #5785211 - 04/08/13 02:13 AM

Quote:

Very interesting to read your views on these Hernando.

I was loaned a set a couple of months back and I'd agree with your assessment of them. I do find the 6mm BGO controls light scatter a little better than the BCO 6mm and the BCO 18mm seems to have slightly better light transmission than the BGO equivalent. The 32mm Classic Plossl is a decent 32mm plossl but not a great one, in my opinion. The Q-Turret barlow is really good although the optical element can't be used in eyepieces with a lower lens set in their barrels - you need around 13mm clear inside the eyepiece barrel to fit the Q-Turret optical element.

Thanks for posting the link




Thanks John, and thanks too for the additional insights on the BCO/BGO 6/18/32mm's. You're right, the barlow element cell needs 13mm clearance for threading onto the EP's 1-1/4" filter thread.

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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Bar new [Re: desertlens]
      #5785213 - 04/08/13 02:16 AM

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Hernando, Thanks for your time and effort with this review. The photos were informative. I was curious about how they would look "dewinged".




Thanks too Craig. The dewinged BCO looks pleasantly good to my eye.

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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Bar new [Re: buddyjesus]
      #5785215 - 04/08/13 02:18 AM

Quote:

nice review. i look forward to hearing a long tern review, like month or two post purchase. Enough time to get an above average seeing night that might show one line definitively better.

i read your blog regularly also btw




Thanks, and you're right, more sky time with the EP's will make for a better judgement on how they fare in comparison with other EP's; yes, will update the blog post as time passes by when more tests are made possible, weather-permitting.

Thanks too for regularly visiting the blog.

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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Bar new [Re: ibase]
      #5786482 - 04/08/13 05:35 PM

Very nice review, Hernando!

I haven't tried the BCO's but do have a Q-Turret + Q-Barlow that I use with my Brandon set and the combination is fantastic and is even light-weight enough to use on my vintage refractors. I really like that the turrent is a straight thru design rather than a mirror or prism design, and the integral barlow is awesome. With a set of 1.25" parfocal eyepieces, the combination cannot be beat for convenience.


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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Bar new [Re: Ain Soph Aur]
      #5786780 - 04/08/13 08:25 PM

Hernando,

Thanks for the photos and explanation on the barlow.

Dave


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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Bar new [Re: Ain Soph Aur]
      #5786998 - 04/08/13 10:05 PM

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Very nice review, Hernando!

I haven't tried the BCO's but do have a Q-Turret + Q-Barlow that I use with my Brandon set and the combination is fantastic and is even light-weight enough to use on my vintage refractors. I really like that the turrent is a straight thru design rather than a mirror or prism design, and the integral barlow is awesome. With a set of 1.25" parfocal eyepieces, the combination cannot be beat for convenience.




Thanks Brandon!

Your observations about the Q-Turret + Q-Barlow is true. The optical quality of the barlow is very good, and although I have yet to make more tests on it, the impression is that its performance is at least at par with my TV 2x/3x barlows. The turret as you say gets an A for convenience for me too, similar in a way to using a zoom.

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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Bar new [Re: russell23]
      #5786999 - 04/08/13 10:06 PM

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Hernando,

Thanks for the photos and explanation on the barlow.

Dave




You're welcome Dave.

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Re: 1st look at Baader Classic Orthos/Q-Turret/Bar new [Re: ibase]
      #5787301 - 04/09/13 02:45 AM

Great review Hernando!

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