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corpusse
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 04/11/10

Loc: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order
      #5783467 - 04/07/13 10:15 AM

A local scope shop is taking pre orders for June delivery with a cost of 3,913$

At this price it should put the cge pro out of business assuming it works.. I would post a link but I'm not sure it's allowed.

While I want an ap mount or paramount. This is much more in my price range as a final observatory mount to use for decades...


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Mike X.
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 06/28/10

Loc: Greece-Athens and Rome-Italy
Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: corpusse]
      #5783745 - 04/07/13 12:53 PM

Not bad as a price, it could be a nice alternative to the cge-pro.

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steelhead
journeyman


Reged: 01/27/11

Loc: Smithers, BC
Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: corpusse]
      #5785534 - 04/08/13 09:48 AM

Just seen it on another Canadian dealer site for $3289. I see they state the capacity at 50kg too.

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corpusse
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 04/11/10

Loc: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: steelhead]
      #5785549 - 04/08/13 09:58 AM

Quote:

Just seen it on another Canadian dealer site for $3289. I see they state the capacity at 50kg too.




Wow!


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steelhead
journeyman


Reged: 01/27/11

Loc: Smithers, BC
Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: corpusse]
      #5785936 - 04/08/13 12:54 PM

Another Canadian site has it listed at $3799.

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rmollise
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Reged: 07/06/07

Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: corpusse]
      #5786226 - 04/08/13 03:32 PM

Quote:

A local scope shop is taking pre orders for June delivery with a cost of 3,913$

At this price it should put the cge pro out of business assuming it works.. I would post a link but I'm not sure it's allowed.

While I want an ap mount or paramount. This is much more in my price range as a final observatory mount to use for decades...




I ain't afeared: http://khanscope.com/accessDetails.cfm?productID=4761

This is no way constitutes my endorsement of this particular dealer, however...


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corpusse
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 04/11/10

Loc: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: rmollise]
      #5786336 - 04/08/13 04:23 PM

I wonder why there is such a price difference. You would think there would be a minimum price. I'm really thinking ill pre order from te 3289 dealer. Even if shipping is 200$ it's way cheaper then the local places..

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wz2
Most Boring Astronomer...


Reged: 07/30/10

Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: corpusse]
      #5786809 - 04/08/13 08:43 PM

What's the PE like on the EQ mounts? They don't seem to provide a spec.

Thanks, Chris


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rmollise
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Reged: 07/06/07

Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: wz2]
      #5786817 - 04/08/13 08:46 PM

Quote:

What's the PE like on the EQ mounts? They don't seem to provide a spec.

Thanks, Chris




How could any of us possibly answer that?


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wz2
Most Boring Astronomer...


Reged: 07/30/10

Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: rmollise]
      #5786861 - 04/08/13 09:07 PM

Quote:

Quote:

What's the PE like on the EQ mounts? They don't seem to provide a spec.

Thanks, Chris




How could any of us possibly answer that?




Reviews
Word of mouth
Personal use
Other forums
User groups

I'm totally unfamiliar with the EQ line and haven't been able to find much on them. Just thought someone might know a little more than me and would be willing to share.

Chris


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ASTERON
Carpal Tunnel
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Reged: 11/24/07

Loc: ISRAEL
Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: wz2]
      #5787362 - 04/09/13 04:37 AM

Even if it costs $2500, would you pre-order a mount for which there are no guaranteed performance specifications ?
You might end with a PE of +-5 arcminutes
A Decent and respectable manufacturer should not offer pre-order sales of a product, when there are no minimally guaranteed performance specs.

Edited by ASTERON (04/09/13 04:40 AM)


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Hilmi
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Reged: 03/07/10

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Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: ASTERON]
      #5787395 - 04/09/13 05:22 AM

I understand where you are coming from, I do remember though that on one of the YouTube videos about the mounts, they where indirectly hinting that the mount would perform along the same lines as an astrophysics mount.

They have a very big worm wheel on the mount, which to my understanding reduces the effect of the PE from the worm gear.

All this is speculation, I am not prepared to stand by my statement, so make your pre-order purchase decisions at your own risk.


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sage


Reged: 08/31/11

Loc: Houston, Texas, USA
Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: corpusse]
      #5787515 - 04/09/13 07:38 AM

Quote:

A local scope shop is taking pre orders for June delivery with a cost of 3,913$

At this price it should put the cge pro out of business assuming it works.. I would post a link but I'm not sure it's allowed.

While I want an ap mount or paramount. This is much more in my price range as a final observatory mount to use for decades...




I agree that if this mount works out (and based on Meade's recent experience I think that it would be prudent to wait and see) it will be very disruptive to the middle to high end market and very likely deadly to the CGE PRO, Losmandy G11 and the like. It would be nice if market competition moved all mounts of this caliber to have encoders on both axis... But as I said above, I will wait until a good number of these are in users hands before making any judgement.

It also makes me wonder if there is a CGE PRO2 in the works.


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rmollise
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Reged: 07/06/07

Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: wz2]
      #5787576 - 04/09/13 08:36 AM

Quote:



Reviews
Word of mouth
Personal use
Other forums
User groups

I'm totally unfamiliar with the EQ line and haven't been able to find much on them. Just thought someone might know a little more than me and would be willing to share.

Chris




The mount has not been released yet. Soooo...that kinda cuts back on those things as sources of information...


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sage


Reged: 08/31/11

Loc: Houston, Texas, USA
Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: rmollise]
      #5787644 - 04/09/13 09:15 AM

Quote:

Quote:



Reviews
Word of mouth
Personal use
Other forums
User groups

I'm totally unfamiliar with the EQ line and haven't been able to find much on them. Just thought someone might know a little more than me and would be willing to share.

Chris




The mount has not been released yet. Soooo...that kinda cuts back on those things as sources of information...




I think the question was about the EQ line in general...


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Starhawk
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Reged: 09/16/08

Loc: Tucson, Arizona
Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: wz2]
      #5787661 - 04/09/13 09:24 AM

Ummm, do you know what the phrase "Pre order" means in the context of this thread's title?

Hint: it involves no one owning one or having had a chance to use one, yet.

-Rich

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

What's the PE like on the EQ mounts? They don't seem to provide a spec.

Thanks, Chris




How could any of us possibly answer that?




Reviews
Word of mouth
Personal use
Other forums
User groups

I'm totally unfamiliar with the EQ line and haven't been able to find much on them. Just thought someone might know a little more than me and would be willing to share.

Chris




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corpusse
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 04/11/10

Loc: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: ASTERON]
      #5787677 - 04/09/13 09:32 AM

Quote:

Even if it costs $2500, would you pre-order a mount for which there are no guaranteed performance specifications ?
You might end with a PE of +-5 arcminutes
A Decent and respectable manufacturer should not offer pre-order sales of a product, when there are no minimally guaranteed performance specs.




If it costs $2500 to not know and almost 4k to know, yes I'd be willing to take the chance, if it doesn't work at that price I could still pawn it off to a visual user with a big refractor or even C14.

It would be nice if the mount is tested before it's sold. I'm not 100% buying one and gambling but I am seriously considering it.


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KD58
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Reged: 11/23/12

Loc: West Texas
Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: corpusse]
      #5787704 - 04/09/13 09:48 AM

This may be a totally idiotic question, but is it easy to order equipment from Canada and have it serviced locally or would that require shipping back to Canada. Is Orion likely to market the equivalent in the USA soon? I know there is no official word but if anyone has heard of any rumours?

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jonbosley
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 10/19/05

Loc: Texas
Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: KD58]
      #5787826 - 04/09/13 11:04 AM

Here is some details on the EQ8 from a vendor.

Details

SkyWatcher EQ8 Telescope Mount EQ7 NEQ8

50 Kg load bearing
R.A Worm Gear D=219.5mm with 435 teeth
DEC Worm Gear D=219.5mm with 435 teeth
Counterweigh shaft 31.5mm
Latitude adjustable from 15 to 65 degrees
Polar Scope - **optional **YES
Polar alignment - Polar scope or software adjustment
SynScan Hand Control with over 42000 object
Dual or Singl Axis tracking modes
Tracking Options: Sidereal, Lunar, Solar and PEC+sidereal
PEC Included
Dual Encode Control Included
Motors 12V stepper
Tracking Accuracy = 0.1164 arc seconds
Power Requirement 12VDC

Dual Encoder Design

With the patented dual encoder design, you may move the telescope to any position manually or electronically without deactivating the tracking mode first. After moving to a new object the telescope will automatically begin to track the new object accurately. No re-setup is required in one observing session.

Motors

The EQ8 utilises 0.9 degree per step bipolar stepper motors to get high resolution. It uses stepper motors without without reduction gear to drive worm shaft directly so to remove the periodic error caused by reduction gear.

Computer Operation

Couple this solidly-built mount with the included SynScan computer controller to utilise many of the same functions and feature as SkyWatcher's most advanced SynScan Mounts. It can also be controlled by SynScan Tour.

PPEC

Permanent Periodic Error Correction (PEC) - corrects for periodic tracking errors inherent to all worm drives.


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corpusse
scholastic sledgehammer


Reged: 04/11/10

Loc: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Re: Eq8 is under 4k in Canada pre order new [Re: jonbosley]
      #5789804 - 04/10/13 09:00 AM

If anyone wants to take advantage of the $3289 price it will apparently be in effect until the end of april. I'm currently mulling it over.

I have a CGE this might or might not be a huge step up from that mount. However I do have 2 completely different locations and I don't move mounts back and forth. That one only has a CGEM. This assuming it works out of the box certainly is a step up.

I could continue to use the CGEM for say 3 years, then look into a higher end mount, or get this and not look back. Tough choice.


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