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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: g__day]
      #5903724 - 06/05/13 11:40 AM

G_Day,
What version of ASCOM driver do you have installed?

I interpret from what you post that you do not have a mount connected when this happens?


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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: fmhill]
      #5905779 - 06/06/13 11:15 AM


Using ASCOM 6 SP1.

I have tried multiple combinations, including:

AT -> Direct to mount (Syncs work)
AT -> Sky6 -> Vixen driver
(syncs fail when Tpoint model exist, even if allow syncs is on at both telescope driver and server settings)
(syncs fail when Tpoint model removed - with limit errors)
AT -> Sky6 -> Telescope API -> Latest Vixen driver (sync fail)
AT -> Sky6 -> Simulator (syncs fail)

Tom Bisque has written an in-depth reply of your don't want to do syncs when there is an active Tpoint model - it pollutes it. However he says syncs do work thought you should do it. I have informed him I can't even get syncs to work on the simulator and seem to have tried all combinations of options I can consider.

http://www.bisque.com/sc/forums/t/18673.aspx

Tom Bisque replied on Thu, Jun 6 2013 2:18 AM

You should not Sync the telescope when a TPoint model is present. Unless you know the procedure. There is a button on the telescope SETUP to specifically prevent the Sync from being allowed. If that is checked you cannot Sync. Again this is something you do not want to be doing and is why you are having such a problem with this. In an attempt to save you from making a huge mistake the Sync is being prohibited. Note the Allow Sync here. This is what prevents a remote app. from Syncing the telescope. When TPoint is present and working this is strongly recommended.



The reason it is not "allowed" is this makes no sense to allow the user to Sync when the model exists. That is like pulling the rug out from under it and completely negates the model. The only times a Sync can be done with a TPoint model present is when the Sync is done correctly! This Sync cannot be done during or after a model is created. This is why I assume ASCOM is prohibiting this it should! If it was not and Synced anyway it would make things worse. Note that you are using ASCOM here right? Back to they have their reasons for doing what they do and you can ask the person who wrote the ASCOM driver why they are prohibiting Syncs. If they have a way to turn this off and they do in fact allow a Sync when TPoint is present I would be very surprised. Unless they qualify this and either clear the existing TPoint model so you can start over or Sync back in to the model or start a "short mapping run".

Try using the native Software Bisque Telescope Simulator instead of ASCOM. This is what you should see. This is exactly what I am trying to get at. You should not be Syncing during a model or even after a model is created.

Now turn off TPoint and you can Sync at will (if you are using remote third party control you have to enable remote syns too). I simply fail to understand what you are trying to accomplish? If the telescope is turned on and initialized Sync the telescope once and only once then start the TPoint run. No Syncing after that is required or allowed. There is no reason I can see to be trying to Sync during the run.

Syncing the telescope when you have TPoint model present is not something you want to be doing. UNLESS you performing the Sync correctly. As per the dialog above. I would be surprised if any third party control program is programmatic-ally able to deal with the above scenarios.

You might to find out if the third party application has been written to address the above following conditions. If they are not aware of these or don't know the consequences I would be shocked. And maybe they can more clearly explain why their program is not allow this to happen. I can see why it would not frankly.


* * * *

I think there is a setting or a limit or a switch somewhere in the Sky6 that even when syncs are allowed - doesn't like the format of the sync data it is seeing.


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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: g__day]
      #5980992 - 07/20/13 08:27 AM

Link to the pdf manual seems broken. Anyone have a good link?
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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: James Cunningham]
      #5982147 - 07/20/13 10:39 PM

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Link to the pdf manual seems broken. Anyone have a good link?
Thanks





http://sourceforge.net/projects/astrotortilla/files/docs/


That link worked for me.


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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: ldesign1]
      #5992626 - 07/27/13 09:13 AM

So I had one day where most of my images solved. The last two nights, though, none of my images are solving. I didn't change anything the first night, but last night I was using an H-Alpha filter.

I was able to get anywhere between 30 and 80 sources, but after a few minutes the images wouldn't solve. I did notice that I don't have the index files above 4210. I thought I downloaded them, but I must not have. Of course it was solving just a few days ago with the same settings.

Is it possible, I could need the new index files even though it was working previously?

Any issues with using an H-Alpha filter?


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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: Footbag]
      #5992851 - 07/27/13 11:42 AM

Quote:

So I had one day where most of my images solved. The last two nights, though, none of my images are solving. I didn't change anything the first night, but last night I was using an H-Alpha filter.

I was able to get anywhere between 30 and 80 sources, but after a few minutes the images wouldn't solve. I did notice that I don't have the index files above 4210. I thought I downloaded them, but I must not have. Of course it was solving just a few days ago with the same settings.

Is it possible, I could need the new index files even though it was working previously?

Any issues with using an H-Alpha filter?




As you don't say what the setup is for imaging when the error occurred, and you list an Edge HD 8" in your signature, I will say you definitely want to add the indexes below 4210, indexes 4209 to and including 4205... You may also need 4204 however if you are using a focal resucer, 4205 should be low enough and 4204 is huge, better not to load it if you don't need it. I use a EdgeHD 11" without a focal reducer and most resolves are made using 4204. It all depends on your FOV.

Be sure AT scale parameters are to your FOV otherwise AT will bog down and take hours to do a solve...


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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: fmhill]
      #5992873 - 07/27/13 12:01 PM

Quote:

Quote:

So I had one day where most of my images solved. The last two nights, though, none of my images are solving. I didn't change anything the first night, but last night I was using an H-Alpha filter.

I was able to get anywhere between 30 and 80 sources, but after a few minutes the images wouldn't solve. I did notice that I don't have the index files above 4210. I thought I downloaded them, but I must not have. Of course it was solving just a few days ago with the same settings.

Is it possible, I could need the new index files even though it was working previously?

Any issues with using an H-Alpha filter?




As you don't say what the setup is for imaging when the error occurred, and you list an Edge HD 8" in your signature, I will say you definitely want to add the indexes below 4210, indexes 4209 to and including 4205... You may also need 4204 however if you are using a focal resucer, 4205 should be low enough and 4204 is huge, better not to load it if you don't need it. I use a EdgeHD 11" without a focal reducer and most resolves are made using 4204. It all depends on your FOV.

Be sure AT scale parameters are to your FOV otherwise AT will bog down and take hours to do a solve...




Yes. This is with the Edge HD 800. I want to say I have the 4205, but maybe not the 4204. The thing is it was solving well just a few days ago with no changes. Seems like it will take a bit more trial and error.


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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: Footbag]
      #5992888 - 07/27/13 12:11 PM

Make a screen capture of the AT settings page and post it or e-mail it to me, also a log file if you have one of a failed session and I might be able to help you...

When having a problem, always make a log file, it will show what is happening, without it one is only guessing...

Edited by fmhill (07/27/13 12:15 PM)


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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: fmhill]
      #5992929 - 07/27/13 12:30 PM

Quote:

Make a screen capture of the AT settings page and post it or e-mail it to me, also a log file if you have one of a failed session and I might be able to help you...

When having a problem, always make a log file, it will show what is happening, without it one is only guessing...




I'll have to wait for another clear night for the log file. But I'll also see if I cannot get it working at that time. Maybe the H-alpha filter is messing it up?

What should my scale max and minimum be or what do they represent?

I did go nuts changing the settings last night. Until then, I was just using exposure and sigma until I got the right amount of sources, and it would solve in a 20 or so seconds. Last night I changed the scales, and set search radius back to 180. 45 seemed to be working earlier. I'm not going to send you the settings until I get some testing done. I'm not even sure where I left the settings last night.


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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: Footbag]
      #5993257 - 07/27/13 04:24 PM

I doubt the filter has anything to do with it as you are getting what sounds like adequate sources... If the filter were a problem, you would not be detecting sources...

The scale values should represent your FOV, otherwise you are limiting or forcing AT to search large areas outside of your image... This will cause AT to bog down and stall... As we use scopes and cameras that make small FOV images, setting radius to 180 just wastes processing time, leave it set to 45, this is not your problem...

Setting scale min and max is most likely what the problem is, I would set Max Scale to 1.3 and Min scale to 0.3 (I'm guessing as I don't know what your FOV is, probably in the middle of the FOV I get whether I'm using the ES127 or the EdgeHD 11" and my 60Da camera...

You do not have to be precise, the scale settings should encompass the FOV with as little excess outside area coverage as searching large areas outside the FOV will slow AT down significantly.

If your FOV is 1.23 degrees by 0.37 degrees, then setting Max scale to 1.3 and Min to 0.3 is accurate enough...


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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: fmhill]
      #5993266 - 07/27/13 04:31 PM

Quote:

I doubt the filter has anything to do with it as you are getting what sounds like adequate sources... If the filter were a problem, you would not be detecting sources...

The scale values should represent your FOV, otherwise you are limiting or forcing AT to search large areas outside of your image... This will cause AT to bog down and stall... As we use scopes and cameras that make small FOV images, setting radius to 180 just wastes processing time, leave it set to 45, this is not your problem...

Setting scale min and max is most likely what the problem is, I would set Max Scale to 1.3 and Min scale to 0.3 (I'm guessing as I don't know what your FOV is, probably in the middle of the FOV I get whether I'm using the ES127 or the EdgeHD 11" and my 60Da camera...

You do not have to be precise, the scale settings should encompass the FOV with as little excess outside area coverage as searching large areas outside the FOV will slow AT down significantly.

If your FOV is 1.23 degrees by 0.37 degrees, then setting Max scale to 1.3 and Min to 0.3 is accurate enough...




Hmm. My Max was set to 46 and Min set to 24. Does it matter that my units were arcmins? Or is my setting just way off?


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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: Footbag]
      #5993287 - 07/27/13 04:47 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I doubt the filter has anything to do with it as you are getting what sounds like adequate sources... If the filter were a problem, you would not be detecting sources...

The scale values should represent your FOV, otherwise you are limiting or forcing AT to search large areas outside of your image... This will cause AT to bog down and stall... As we use scopes and cameras that make small FOV images, setting radius to 180 just wastes processing time, leave it set to 45, this is not your problem...

Setting scale min and max is most likely what the problem is, I would set Max Scale to 1.3 and Min scale to 0.3 (I'm guessing as I don't know what your FOV is, probably in the middle of the FOV I get whether I'm using the ES127 or the EdgeHD 11" and my 60Da camera...

You do not have to be precise, the scale settings should encompass the FOV with as little excess outside area coverage as searching large areas outside the FOV will slow AT down significantly.

If your FOV is 1.23 degrees by 0.37 degrees, then setting Max scale to 1.3 and Min to 0.3 is accurate enough...




Hmm. My Max was set to 46 and Min set to 24. Does it matter that my units were arcmins? Or is my setting just way off?




As you have not provided a screen shot of the AT settings nor have you mentioned that the Scale Units are anything but the default of "DegreeWidth" I woulf have to say you are way off...

This attempt to help you ends here until you provide the screenshot of AT settings and a log file as requested otherwise we are spinning our wheels...


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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: fmhill]
      #6000371 - 07/31/13 06:06 PM

Okay, since you folks (esp Mitch) are all being so helpful, can anyone help ME get AT working?

I have indices 4206-4212 and a FOV of just over 2 degrees horizontally. My imaging system is an 80mm f6 APO and a Canon 550D. A typical attempt logs a value of between 20 and 60 for the Simplexy, yet I never get any solutions.

My AT settings:
Scale minimum: 1.5
Scale maximum: 2.5
Scale units: degw
Scale refinement: 0
Search radius: 180
Custom options: --sigma 70 --no-plots -N none

Routine will run for about 3 minutes then declare "No solution in XXXs"

log file (most dups and boring bits) eliminated:

2013-07-31 17:59:05,072 - astrotortilla - INFO - Connecting to camera...
2013-07-31 17:59:05,098 - astrotortilla - INFO - Exposing: 10.00 seconds
2013-07-31 17:59:07,796 - astrotortilla - INFO - Reading image from camera
2013-07-31 17:59:07,798 - astrotortilla - INFO - Solving...
2013-07-31 17:59:08,401 - astrotortilla - INFO - Reading input file 1 of 1: "/cygdrive/d/BackyardEOS/LIBRARY/PREVIEW/PREVIEW_20130730-23h18m48s496ms.JPG"...

2013-07-31 17:59:08,803 - astrotortilla - INFO - jpegtopnm: WRITING PPM FILE

2013-07-31 17:59:10,305 - astrotortilla - INFO - Read file stdin: 5184 x 3456 pixels x 1 color(s); maxval 255

2013-07-31 17:59:10,408 - astrotortilla - INFO - Using 8-bit output

2013-07-31 17:59:15,634 - astrotortilla - INFO - Extracting sources...

2013-07-31 17:59:20,977 - astrotortilla - INFO - simplexy: found 57 sources.

2013-07-31 17:59:22,381 - astrotortilla - INFO - Solving...

2013-07-31 17:59:22,993 - astrotortilla - INFO - Reading file "/cygdrive/c/users/grant/appdata/local/temp/solverpxemib/3/PREVIEW_20130730-23h18m48s496ms.axy"...

2013-07-31 17:59:23,095 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4213.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:23,198 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4212.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:23,503 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4211.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:23,608 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4210.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:23,713 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4209.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:23,819 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4208.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:23,923 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4207-11.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:25,068 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4207-00.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:25,173 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4206-11.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:26,322 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4206-00.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:26,950 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4213.fits, field objects 11-20).

2013-07-31 17:59:27,055 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4212.fits, field objects 11-20).

2013-07-31 17:59:27,858 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4211.fits, field objects 11-20).

2013-07-31 17:59:27,963 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4210.fits, field objects 11-20).

2013-07-31 17:59:28,066 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4209.fits, field objects 11-20).

2013-07-31 17:59:28,171 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4208.fits, field objects 11-20).

2013-07-31 18:01:43,911 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4206-00.fits, field objects 51-60).

2013-07-31 18:01:44,542 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve.

2013-07-31 18:01:47,065 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve.

2013-07-31 18:01:47,316 - astrotortilla - INFO - Did not solve (or no WCS file was written).

2013-07-31 18:01:47,322 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field: /cygdrive/d/BackyardEOS/LIBRARY/PREVIEW/PREVIEW_20130730-23h18m48s496ms.JPG

2013-07-31 18:01:47,328 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve.

2013-07-31 18:01:47,335 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve.

2013-07-31 18:01:47,339 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve.

2013-07-31 18:01:50,200 - astrotortilla - INFO - No solution in 162.4s

Cheers!

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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: RedLionNJ]
      #6000392 - 07/31/13 06:23 PM

Unfortunately, I am headed out the door for the evening, back about 10:00 - 10:30 PM

A quick suggestion, what ISO was the camera using? I seen cases where first try with integrated operation where the ISO is being set too low by the software... also try setting scale to min = 1, Max = 3

Second suggestion, add the indexes so you have 4219-4205 indexes inclusive, the image may be wider than what the 4212 and lower will support... This is another common first time issue...

More later...

Mitch...


Quote:

Okay, since you folks (esp Mitch) are all being so helpful, can anyone help ME get AT working?

I have indices 4206-4212 and a FOV of just over 2 degrees horizontally. My imaging system is an 80mm f6 APO and a Canon 550D. A typical attempt logs a value of between 20 and 60 for the Simplexy, yet I never get any solutions.

My AT settings:
Scale minimum: 1.5
Scale maximum: 2.5
Scale units: degw
Scale refinement: 0
Search radius: 180
Custom options: --sigma 70 --no-plots -N none

Routine will run for about 3 minutes then declare "No solution in XXXs"

log file (most dups and boring bits) eliminated:

2013-07-31 17:59:05,072 - astrotortilla - INFO - Connecting to camera...
2013-07-31 17:59:05,098 - astrotortilla - INFO - Exposing: 10.00 seconds
2013-07-31 17:59:07,796 - astrotortilla - INFO - Reading image from camera
2013-07-31 17:59:07,798 - astrotortilla - INFO - Solving...
2013-07-31 17:59:08,401 - astrotortilla - INFO - Reading input file 1 of 1: "/cygdrive/d/BackyardEOS/LIBRARY/PREVIEW/PREVIEW_20130730-23h18m48s496ms.JPG"...

2013-07-31 17:59:08,803 - astrotortilla - INFO - jpegtopnm: WRITING PPM FILE

2013-07-31 17:59:10,305 - astrotortilla - INFO - Read file stdin: 5184 x 3456 pixels x 1 color(s); maxval 255

2013-07-31 17:59:10,408 - astrotortilla - INFO - Using 8-bit output

2013-07-31 17:59:15,634 - astrotortilla - INFO - Extracting sources...

2013-07-31 17:59:20,977 - astrotortilla - INFO - simplexy: found 57 sources.

2013-07-31 17:59:22,381 - astrotortilla - INFO - Solving...

2013-07-31 17:59:22,993 - astrotortilla - INFO - Reading file "/cygdrive/c/users/grant/appdata/local/temp/solverpxemib/3/PREVIEW_20130730-23h18m48s496ms.axy"...

2013-07-31 17:59:23,095 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4213.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:23,198 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4212.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:23,503 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4211.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:23,608 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4210.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:23,713 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4209.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:23,819 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4208.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:23,923 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4207-11.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:25,068 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4207-00.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:25,173 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4206-11.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:26,322 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4206-00.fits, field objects 1-10).

2013-07-31 17:59:26,950 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4213.fits, field objects 11-20).

2013-07-31 17:59:27,055 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4212.fits, field objects 11-20).

2013-07-31 17:59:27,858 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4211.fits, field objects 11-20).

2013-07-31 17:59:27,963 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4210.fits, field objects 11-20).

2013-07-31 17:59:28,066 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4209.fits, field objects 11-20).

2013-07-31 17:59:28,171 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4208.fits, field objects 11-20).

2013-07-31 18:01:43,911 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve (index index-4206-00.fits, field objects 51-60).

2013-07-31 18:01:44,542 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve.

2013-07-31 18:01:47,065 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve.

2013-07-31 18:01:47,316 - astrotortilla - INFO - Did not solve (or no WCS file was written).

2013-07-31 18:01:47,322 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field: /cygdrive/d/BackyardEOS/LIBRARY/PREVIEW/PREVIEW_20130730-23h18m48s496ms.JPG

2013-07-31 18:01:47,328 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve.

2013-07-31 18:01:47,335 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve.

2013-07-31 18:01:47,339 - astrotortilla - INFO - Field 1 did not solve.

2013-07-31 18:01:50,200 - astrotortilla - INFO - No solution in 162.4s

Cheers!

Grant




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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: fmhill]
      #6001269 - 08/01/13 10:34 AM

Mitch - you are GOOD!

I set the scale to 1.0 to 3.0 and it solved within 15 seconds.

Turns out my horizonal FOV is about 2.7 degrees.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: fmhill]
      #6017454 - 08/10/13 11:36 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

I doubt the filter has anything to do with it as you are getting what sounds like adequate sources... If the filter were a problem, you would not be detecting sources...

The scale values should represent your FOV, otherwise you are limiting or forcing AT to search large areas outside of your image... This will cause AT to bog down and stall... As we use scopes and cameras that make small FOV images, setting radius to 180 just wastes processing time, leave it set to 45, this is not your problem...

Setting scale min and max is most likely what the problem is, I would set Max Scale to 1.3 and Min scale to 0.3 (I'm guessing as I don't know what your FOV is, probably in the middle of the FOV I get whether I'm using the ES127 or the EdgeHD 11" and my 60Da camera...

You do not have to be precise, the scale settings should encompass the FOV with as little excess outside area coverage as searching large areas outside the FOV will slow AT down significantly.

If your FOV is 1.23 degrees by 0.37 degrees, then setting Max scale to 1.3 and Min to 0.3 is accurate enough...




Hmm. My Max was set to 46 and Min set to 24. Does it matter that my units were arcmins? Or is my setting just way off?




As you have not provided a screen shot of the AT settings nor have you mentioned that the Scale Units are anything but the default of "DegreeWidth" I woulf have to say you are way off...

This attempt to help you ends here until you provide the screenshot of AT settings and a log file as requested otherwise we are spinning our wheels...




First, I appreciate all of your help and don't want to spin your wheels at all. I was only hoping to get a better understanding of the settings so I didn't have to keep bothering you.

I went out and used the settings you suggested and it solved in 13 seconds. The program is awesome! I would've posted the screenshot and log, but it's working perfectly.

My only issue is that I have yet to have it solve with the H-Alpha filter on there. For that I only change exposure length and sigma, but no dice. I'm happy if I don't figure it out as I'm not using the H-Alpha filter so much, but it's still confusing.


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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: Footbag]
      #6017561 - 08/10/13 12:48 PM

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First, I appreciate all of your help and don't want to spin your wheels at all. I was only hoping to get a better understanding of the settings so I didn't have to keep bothering you.

I went out and used the settings you suggested and it solved in 13 seconds. The program is awesome! I would've posted the screenshot and log, but it's working perfectly.

My only issue is that I have yet to have it solve with the H-Alpha filter on there. For that I only change exposure length and sigma, but no dice. I'm happy if I don't figure it out as I'm not using the H-Alpha filter so much, but it's still confusing.




Adam,
I don't mind spinning my wheels if I have adequate information to work with and two key elements of that with Astrotortilla, is having a log file while AT is attempting to solve and doesn't. The other is having a screen shot of the AT parameter settings at that time.

I am puzzled as I've never heard anyone comment about not being able to resolve images made while using a HA filter before. I can only assume it is exposure time related as using filters affects exposure time... I do not believe AT has any care about color shifts...

So, for the time being, I will save your message and wait and see if someone else reports a similar issue...


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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: fmhill]
      #6017670 - 08/10/13 02:06 PM

Nope. You're probably not taking long enough exposures. Either bin or make sure you're greater than 30 seconds.

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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: Raginar]
      #6017976 - 08/10/13 05:06 PM

Try my settings:
My AT settings:
Downscaling 1
Scale minimum: 1
Scale maximum: 2.6
Scale units: degw
Scale refinement: 0
Search radius: 90
Custom options: --sigma 40 --no-plots -N none

Give it a shot and report back!
Andy


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Re: AstroTortilla - how does it work? new [Re: budman1961]
      #6041832 - 08/23/13 12:48 PM

Ive been using astrometry on a beaglebone black. It can solve a 4x4 binned image from my qhy8 in 15 seconds, not a bad deal considering that the BBB processor is a 1 GHz ARM Cortex A8.

But since my BBB is headless and I don't have it hooked up to my mount and camera, i'm giving AT a shot. Now if only the indexes downloaded faster... I already have the indexes for my BBB but there's no option in the installer to skip the indexes but only download cygwin...


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