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starman876
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Worst telescope ever
      #5794202 - 04/12/13 11:19 AM

Let's see how many we can come up with

My vote the Dynamax SCT's and the B&L 4" Mak.


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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: starman876]
      #5794235 - 04/12/13 11:37 AM

We might as well lock up this thread sooner than later. Mike

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bob midiri
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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: starman876]
      #5794238 - 04/12/13 11:38 AM

That is hard to top!!! I remember 25 to 30 years ago how the "Department store" IMPORTED 60mm refractor were some of the worst scopes ever, never recommend them to a kid, poor eyepieces, wobbly mounts, etc....now we collect them and rave about them...funny world

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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: bob midiri]
      #5794248 - 04/12/13 11:41 AM

skywatcher 114mm - despite good views, when the chrome plating on the teeth of the focuser rack wore off - the teeth on the plastic rack all broke.
Grendel

Edited by grendel (04/12/13 11:41 AM)


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starman876
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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: grendel]
      #5794258 - 04/12/13 11:44 AM

I also had some Coulter Dobs that were great for low power views and not much more.

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orion61

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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: starman876]
      #5794270 - 04/12/13 11:48 AM

Quote:

Let's see how many we can come up with

My vote the Dynamax SCT's and the B&L 4" Mak.




Have You personally owned both of those? or are you just being a Lemming and following the Criterion bashing crowd?
I have both and they are both very good optically.


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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: starman876]
      #5794281 - 04/12/13 11:53 AM

Black Vernonscope 80mm wide field "Apo"refractor, first advertised for astronomy, later for birding. (Have never understood that thing coming from the same company as the 16 and 24mm Brandons supplied with the Q3.5...)

Chris


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starman876
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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: orion61]
      #5794285 - 04/12/13 11:53 AM

I have owned both. Maybe I had the cream of the crop of bad ones. I almost hugged and kissed the people that bought them from me. I had a 6" and 8" Dynamax and both were just down right awful. Had the B&L 4000 and tried every trick in the book to make it perform better. Please take note that I do not give up easily. I love a challenge. However, I do know when enough is enough.

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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: Fomalhaut]
      #5794291 - 04/12/13 11:56 AM

I had one of the Brandons. Thanks for reminding me of another time I want to forget

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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: orion61]
      #5794302 - 04/12/13 12:00 PM

I've seen a few C8's that were real dogs. A friend had an SP C8 in 87 That I had her get exchanged. I collimated the secondary, but no use it was really a bad scope. The second one was OK but still not great.
Coulter 13.1.. not good at anything over 75x if that.. Funny the 10.1 that had a decent mirror. MUCH better than the 13.1. This was in 86, a friend had the 10.1 for about 6 months and decided to get the 13.1. We set the scope up, I collimated it as best I could and it just sucked. Coulter gave him a song and dance about seeing and he ended up using it as is.


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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: starman876]
      #5794308 - 04/12/13 12:04 PM

Of course I had a few SCT's I want to forget also. However, they were mostly the Meade's. Most of the Celestrons I had I liked. Of course they were all the orange celestrons. Have the C14, C11 and C8 and do enjoy them from time to time. Have had the Meade 8" 10" and 12" and they all made me work to obtain the best image and then it still was not the equal of what the Celestrons were able to provide

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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: starman876]
      #5794332 - 04/12/13 12:18 PM

I highly recommend that Classic Scope owners learn to test optics. It is not difficult and you'll quickly understand if your optics are truely good or bad and if there is an easy fix to the problem.
I have seen a number of vintage telescope that have an element or the complete objective installed backwards. I have seen excellent primary mirrors teamed up with a diagonal that when tested has an optical figure that looks like a Prinkles potate chip. I have seen pinched optics and strained optics that when properly mounted have excellent figures. What is even worse is that I been told by the owners of some of these scopes that the images are wonderful and the optical quality is superior because it is a Cave, Criterion, Celestron, Clark, Brashear, Unitron, OTI, Tinsley etc etc. Don't get taken in by brand names. When I fixed the problem their jaws dropped at the quality of images they have been missing, sometimes for many many years !

- Dave


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Dave M
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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: orion61]
      #5794337 - 04/12/13 12:23 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Let's see how many we can come up with

My vote the Dynamax SCT's and the B&L 4" Mak.





Have You personally owned both of those? or are you just being a Lemming and following the Criterion bashing crowd?
I have both and they are both very good optically.




Never had one and I`m Not bashing it, but I cant say i`ve ever seen one positive review on it. Just sayin..


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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: Fomalhaut]
      #5794340 - 04/12/13 12:26 PM

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Black Vernonscope 80mm wide field "Apo"...



The one from the Halley's Comet time. I called mine a Multichromatic or the chromogasmic


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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: Dave M]
      #5794354 - 04/12/13 12:35 PM

My vote is for the Coulter 13.1. It does ok on DSO's but struggles with planets. I really dislike the draw tube focuser
I've never looked thru the Dynamax's but the optical description by the seller of this Dynamax 6 lends some credence to the notion of poor optics. Yet it still sold for over $300??
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Criterion-Dynamax-6-SCT-Golden-Pyramid-Parts-Needs-So...


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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: moynihan]
      #5794358 - 04/12/13 12:38 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Black Vernonscope 80mm wide field "Apo"...



The one from the Halley's Comet time. I called mine a Multichromatic or the chromogasmic




Sadly, the words to describe mine are not fit to print here...


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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: starman876]
      #5794359 - 04/12/13 12:38 PM

I'm surprised more people don't mention the early Meade SCT's from 1980 - 1986. I never looked through a very good one. That was about 12 of them. owned 3 till I gave up on Meade until the LX-6..that was superb.
mostly SA. but even the worst 8" SCT or DOB is better than
the shaky 60mm refractors. I bought one of the Meade Jupiter
60mm refractors and it has a Plastic lens. utterly useless..
The Moon looked milky, took it back.. the store said they were running 60% returns on them.. And for someone who doesn't know what a scope image should look like.. thats BAD! I traded it for a DS 4.5" it was a bit better not much


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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: orion61]
      #5794402 - 04/12/13 01:04 PM

The only thing I was ever totally disgusted over was a few of Meade's plastic focusers.
My DS90 and a Starfinder dob I once owned. I consider myself pretty mechanical but those focusers were unusable and there was nothing that could be done to them to make them usable.
Otherwise they were good scopes. Meade know's how to make a mirror that is for certain.
The f11 DS90 has a good lens, multi-coated and a nicely constructed tube with plenty of baffles. The plastic cell is a let down but doesn't seem to affect the operation, nothing like the focuser my word.

Robert


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Re: Worst telescope ever new [Re: snork]
      #5794442 - 04/12/13 01:19 PM

Coulters were meant to be very "affordable transportable" Light buckets only, and for that I think they did a lot of good for amateur astronomy!! In my mind they accomplished that goal.

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Re: Worst telescope ever [Re: Bob Myler]
      #5794448 - 04/12/13 01:22 PM

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Sadly, the words to describe mine are not fit to print here...




Since acronyms seem to be very popular in theses forums, I would think "POS" would be an acceptable substitute. We shall see.......


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