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Brett Carlson
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Reged: 12/12/11

Loc: Rochester, NY
Re: Black Forest Star Party 2013 new [Re: tag1260]
      #6078503 - 09/13/13 10:42 AM

Sky Quality Meter. It measures just how dark the sky really is. As far as what the levels of bad skies to pristine skies I am not sure.

I'd like to get on my self as I was at Black Forest on Friday night an the seeing was pretty good. It was only marginally better than when I observed from my parents house only about an hour south of Rochester, NY. Though at Black Forest I could see more definition of the milky way than I recall at my parents.


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Stars4jon
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Reged: 07/18/13

Loc: Montgomery, NY
Re: Black Forest Star Party 2013 new [Re: Brett Carlson]
      #6078622 - 09/13/13 12:04 PM

I also got a reading of 21.95 initially. So if I average them I get 21.50. Of course this was while pointing straight up at the Milky Way.

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djpontone
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Reged: 04/27/08

Re: Black Forest Star Party 2013 new [Re: Stars4jon]
      #6078724 - 09/13/13 01:02 PM

What about this? http://www.darkskymeter.com

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Alvan Clark
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Reged: 03/13/10

Re: Black Forest Star Party 2013 new [Re: Brett Carlson]
      #6078984 - 09/13/13 03:47 PM

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I'd like to get on my self as I was at Black Forest on Friday night an the seeing was pretty good. It was only marginally better than when I observed from my parents house only about an hour south of Rochester, NY. Though at Black Forest I could see more definition of the milky way than I recall at my parents.




Friday night was not good. It was largely clear but there were a lot of high clouds and haze obscuring the sky. You could see all the high thin clouds before it got dark. Thursday was dramatically better. Bright star clouds all the way to the horizon. Friday, the milky way was all washed out. Wednesday was OK too for awhile.

Edited by Alvan Clark (09/13/13 03:49 PM)


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Brett Carlson
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Reged: 12/12/11

Loc: Rochester, NY
Re: Black Forest Star Party 2013 new [Re: Alvan Clark]
      #6079076 - 09/13/13 04:50 PM

thanks. good to know because I was slightly disappointed driving 3 hours when I could have driven far less. I plan on making a trip down in the fall or spring on a good clear weekend to see how good it can be!

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Larry Mc
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Reged: 09/29/08

Loc: Pittsburgh, PA.
Re: Black Forest Star Party 2013 new [Re: Brett Carlson]
      #6079299 - 09/13/13 07:47 PM

hi all,

Here's my report of the 2013 Black Forest Star Party convention.
http://home.comcast.net/~lsmch/sp-reports/spr2013-BF.pdf

Included within the PDF are links to observing field pictures and video-capture images.
You can also find the pictures here:
http://home.comcast.net/~lsmch/starpartypictures.htm
Just scroll down to the 'Black Forest 2013' section.
Enjoy!

Larry
Astronomical webportal:
http://home.comcast.net/~lsmch/


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Bill Weir
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Reged: 06/01/04

Loc: Metchosin (Victoria), Canada
Re: Black Forest Star Party 2013 new [Re: tag1260]
      #6079328 - 09/13/13 08:01 PM

Quote:

OK. What is an SQM?

Thanks




http://www.unihedron.com/projects/darksky/

Those other readings are more of what I was expecting. With the very low 21 reading I imagine there was a great deal of cloud in the sky.

Bill


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Alvan Clark
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Reged: 03/13/10

Re: Black Forest Star Party 2013 new [Re: Brett Carlson]
      #6080407 - 09/14/13 01:28 PM Attachment (15 downloads)

Quote:

thanks. good to know because I was slightly disappointed driving 3 hours when I could have driven far less. I plan on making a trip down in the fall or spring on a good clear weekend to see how good it can be!




Yes, give it another chance. Here's a photo I took Thursday showing the milky way nicely to the trees.


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George N
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Reged: 05/19/06

Loc: Binghamton & Indian Lake NY
Re: Black Forest Star Party 2013 new [Re: Stars4jon]
      #6081278 - 09/14/13 11:26 PM

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Friday night into Saturday morning I measured 21.08 with my SQM.




I was not at this year's BFSP, but that SQM reading seems rather bright, but might be influenced by the Milky Way. I've had SQM readings at Cherry Springs over the past several years of 21.4 to 21.7.


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George N
Carpal Tunnel
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Reged: 05/19/06

Loc: Binghamton & Indian Lake NY
Re: Black Forest Star Party 2013 new [Re: ischua]
      #6081305 - 09/14/13 11:45 PM

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Next year "tentatively be held August 22-24, 2014"




Similar to 2 years ago? ....with new moon in the last week of the month. This also means Stellafane will be in July in 2014.

Anyway, this works out great for me, since I can only come to BFSP when it is at the end of August. I spend Sept in the Adirondacks (where I had 5 clear nights in the last 2 weeks and SQM readings of 21.6 or so, and it never got below freezing).

I was at CSSP this year for 5 nights, with the first and last being clear. In 2011 CSSP had 2 clear nights and I was at Cherry Springs in May for another 3 clear nights, plus a 4th 'half clear'.... so you never know about what weather will bring at Cherry Springs.

I'm probably going to be back to Cherry Springs early in October for a mid-week run. I've done that twice in the past 4 years and had 3 and 4 clear nights in a row, below freezing one year, but in the upper 40's the other one. A great time of the year to hunt down fall galaxies early and 'winter' stuff in Orion, etc, pre-dawn, plus all of the leaves are changed. I love October at CS.


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Brett Carlson
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Reged: 12/12/11

Loc: Rochester, NY
Re: Black Forest Star Party 2013 new [Re: George N]
      #6081352 - 09/15/13 12:30 AM

I was thinking about a trip to cherry springs in early October myself. Do you have to make a reservation and pay in advance?

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Dave Mitsky
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Reged: 04/08/02

Loc: PA, USA, Planet Earth
Re: Black Forest Star Party 2013 new [Re: Brett Carlson]
      #6081397 - 09/15/13 01:23 AM

Brett,

Reservations are not required.

Registration: Astronomers wishing to use the Astronomy Observation Field are required to register and pay a user fee. Please see the park bulletin board for fee schedule and to acquire a fee payment envelope. Please follow written instructions, posted fee schedule, and list your location on the field so that you can be located in an emergency, then deposit it in the fee tube.

http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/stateparks/findapark/cherrysprings/serious-starga...

Dave Mitsky


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lamplight
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Reged: 09/18/12

Loc: western MA, U.S.
Re: Black Forest Star Party 2013 new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #6099634 - 09/25/13 12:37 AM

I think it was $13 a night, I didn't see that on the link Dave posted.

Does the wifi usually work ok if there isn't a large star party like BFSP? It was completely clogged when I went, so was cut off, since ATT doesn't work up there (verizon seemed to for some)


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George N
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Reged: 05/19/06

Loc: Binghamton & Indian Lake NY
Re: Black Forest Star Party 2013 new [Re: ischua]
      #6202657 - 11/18/13 10:04 PM

Quote:

Next year "tentatively be held August 22-24, 2014"




Although there's nothing yet on the "official" BFSP website, the Pennsylvania State Parks website's park events page lists the dates for BFSP 2014 as Aug 22-24 2014.


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