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kenrenard
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Reged: 12/13/12

Loc: Dunmore, PA
Jupiter
      #5819344 - 04/24/13 09:22 AM Attachment (35 downloads)

Last night I set my scope out early to cool. It looked to be a splendid clear night. About 8 PM I went out to check conditions. The near full moon was shining brightly and some clouds were beginning to roll in. After a few failed attempts Jupiter came into view with all it splendor. I popped in a 6.3 old plossl eyepiece which I was told was junk by a person whom gave it to me. I was amazed at the detail even with some thin clouds in the area. I thought while sketching about eyepieces and equipment. I realize this is not a high end eyepiece but, I still had very pleasant views. I sat and contemplated this massive planet and used my tools which any beginner could afford. I realized it was more about effort and time than equipment and expense. I hope some beginners will realize they don't need high end equipment or $500.00 eyepieces to view objects well.
I hope to get some nice views of Saturn and a few more looks at Jupiter before its setting.

Ken


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frank5817
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Re: Jupiter new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5819480 - 04/24/13 10:45 AM

Ken,

That is a very fine sketch of Jupiter. Its all the better for being in color.
Your scope matched with that eyepiece work well together.

Frank


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niteskystargazer
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Re: Jupiter new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5819491 - 04/24/13 10:49 AM

Ken,

Very good sketch of Jupiter .

CS,KLU,

,

Tom


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kenrenard
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 12/13/12

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Re: Jupiter new [Re: niteskystargazer]
      #5819516 - 04/24/13 11:03 AM

Thank You Tom and Frank,
I sketched on some computer paper with some colored pencils from my daughters art supplies. I was surprised how well Jupiter looked. I decided to cut the drawing and put it into a black background. I think it adds to the contrast. Even my little 72mm showed some nice color on the bands the night before.


Ken


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David Gray
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Re: Jupiter new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5821327 - 04/25/13 06:14 AM

Hi Ken,

Like it! There is something rather compelling here with this drawing; atmospheric even.

Your daughters pencils? My first Jupiter colour drawings (1964) were done using my five year-old niece’s coloured pencils which were kept at our house for when my mother looked after her. In my case I was getting the colours too bright/garish (yours look fine) and developed a technique of muting them with graphite.

I still have that box of (Harlequin) crayon pencils: keep meaning to ask her if she wants them back! Oops I’ve given her age away!

I agree about eyepieces: actually when I bought the binoviewer I was too broke (or at least not wanting to risk my wife’s wrath!) to straight away buy a matched pair. So went around car boot sales etc. buying cheap binos to cannibalize and got a few pairs of perfectly useable and adaptable ones including some excellent wide-fields!

Cheers,
David.


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kenrenard
Carpal Tunnel


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Re: Jupiter new [Re: David Gray]
      #5821348 - 04/25/13 06:49 AM

David,
Thanks for the kind words. I tried to keep the drawing as close to what I could see as possible. I used very light sketching strokes and kept going in and out of my garage to make sure it wasn't getting to dark.

My daughters pencils do seem quite hard so that may help. Little does she know I have now swiped a few colors for myself! We had to put a cabinet in the kitchen for all the girls art supplies. They really love drawing and coloring.

I am thinking about getting a binoviewer some day. For now I will stay a one eyed bandit!

I know one think for certain, sketching has improved my observing skills quite a bit. Although some of my friends find me odd to sit in the dark trying to draw what I see. They just ask why not take pictures? I guess some folks miss the point. To me there is something pure, almost romantic about sitting at the telescope sketching the lines of dark and light, looking for small details wondering what you are seeing.

Ken


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PeterDob
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Re: Jupiter new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5821378 - 04/25/13 07:16 AM

Well, Ken, I totally agree with you on the subject of sketching. My old astronomy tutor specifically instructed us to make drawings all the time because it is the best way to learn to observe properly.

Your drawing is very nice indeed and you're also right about cheap equipment that doesn't necessarily means cheap observation. Plossls are cheap but very decent eyepieces with high light transfer and contrast. Pity they have such a restrictive FOV. And I could also imagine that your 6,3mm isn't the most comfortable one to use with its 5mm of eye relief... But I'm glad it works well for you!

Peter


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kenrenard
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Re: Jupiter new [Re: PeterDob]
      #5821401 - 04/25/13 07:31 AM

Peter,
I would still consider myself a beginner. But, I've come a long way. I always enjoy looking at others sketches to get their point of view on what they see and how they interpret an object.

The eye relief is a bit tough. Like looking into a straw at points but I learned to just relax and enjoy it.

Ken


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Re: Jupiter new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5821644 - 04/25/13 09:44 AM

Ken

Nice sketch. A very good effort to show us what you saw. You are on the way to produce very beautiful sketches în the future.

Andre


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kenrenard
Carpal Tunnel


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Re: Jupiter new [Re: Andrev]
      #5821706 - 04/25/13 10:04 AM

Thanks Andre,
I get my inspiration from the folks in this forum including yourself. I hope I can hone my skills over the years.

Ken


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ericj
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Re: Jupiter new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5834316 - 05/01/13 12:46 PM

Nice sketch Ken I look forward to your future observations and sketches.

Best,

Eric Jamison


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kenrenard
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 12/13/12

Loc: Dunmore, PA
Re: Jupiter new [Re: ericj]
      #5834346 - 05/01/13 12:58 PM

Thank You Eric,
I just started sketching about 6 months ago. I finally got up the nerve to try the Moon and Jupiter. I have been able to get some great advice here and look forward to learning more.

Ken


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Aquarellia
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Re: Jupiter new [Re: kenrenard]
      #5835494 - 05/02/13 12:28 AM

Lovely sketch Ken, I like the result, very very close to the real observation and, in realistic color, whaw ! Cutting the drawing and put it into a black background is a nice idea, maybe more difficult for Saturn, no ?
Share more !
Michel


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kenrenard
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 12/13/12

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Re: Jupiter new [Re: Aquarellia]
      #5835687 - 05/02/13 06:35 AM

Thanks Michel,
I think the black adds some contrast. I am adding some more observations today.


Ken


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