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Andy Taylor
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Re: Schrodenger's cat new [Re: TL2101]
      #5855798 - 05/12/13 03:45 PM

The cat is dead because they forgot to punch air holes in the box...

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Re: Schrodenger's cat new [Re: Andy Taylor]
      #5855914 - 05/12/13 05:10 PM

Originally I was rooting for the cat...

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Re: Schrodenger's cat new [Re: jchaller]
      #5856078 - 05/12/13 06:41 PM

I have decided to build A do-it-yourself quantum eraser and don't worry no cats will be harmed.

I found the instructions at Scientific American.

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deSitter
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Re: Schrodenger's cat new [Re: TL2101]
      #5856422 - 05/12/13 09:56 PM

Sartre's cat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q34z5dCmC4M

-drl


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Re: Schrodenger's cat new [Re: deSitter]
      #5856456 - 05/12/13 10:23 PM

Well, that's kinda sad, and yet...

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Re: Schrodenger's cat new [Re: deSitter]
      #5856613 - 05/12/13 11:48 PM

Hilarious, thank you!

Todd


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Re: Schrodenger's cat new [Re: cavefrog]
      #5906919 - 06/06/13 09:39 PM

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I still am not getting the point to it however... from what I see, what we are trying to determine is if the atom has decayed or not. so why the poison and cat? If the geiger counter can relay a switch, why can the switch not be just a mark or something to be seen as yea or nay? why all the complication with the cat and poison?




Because if it was Schrödinger's geiger counter experiment would we still be talking about it over 75 years later?


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Re: Schrodenger's cat new [Re: Kevdog]
      #5907800 - 06/07/13 11:47 AM

Quote:

Quote:


I still am not getting the point to it however... from what I see, what we are trying to determine is if the atom has decayed or not. so why the poison and cat? If the geiger counter can relay a switch, why can the switch not be just a mark or something to be seen as yea or nay? why all the complication with the cat and poison?




Because if it was Schrödinger's geiger counter experiment would we still be talking about it over 75 years later?




Pesse (exactly) Mist


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Pess
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Re: Schrodenger's cat new [Re: Pess]
      #5907809 - 06/07/13 11:52 AM

The "Cat in the Box' was never meant to be taken literally. It was a thought experiment that postulated a link between a quantum event (Radioactive decay) and a macro event (dead Cat).

As Denny correctly pointed out, there are so many variables between the quantum trigger and the killing of the Cat that one can argue they are not truely linked. But that's not the point. The point is that some macro-event *Could* be linked to a quantum event...and that, if factual, opens up a huge Pandora's box of possibilities in thinking about how the Universe works at a quantum and macro level.

The *Cat* was just a way of popularizing this idea in a way that's easy to conceptualize.

Pesse (By the way, I own one irritating Cat I am more than willing to volunteer for this experiment) Mist


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Re: Schrodenger's cat new [Re: Pess]
      #5907825 - 06/07/13 12:01 PM

BTW, Schrodenger's cat has been getting some publicity in Dilbert recently.

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Re: Schrodenger's cat new [Re: Skip]
      #5907833 - 06/07/13 12:06 PM

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BTW, Schrodenger's cat has been getting some publicity in Dilbert recently.




http://www.dilbert.com/2013-06-06/

http://www.dilbert.com/2013-06-07/


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deSitter
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Re: Schrodenger's cat new [Re: Pess]
      #5907957 - 06/07/13 01:32 PM

Quote:

The "Cat in the Box' was never meant to be taken literally. It was a thought experiment that postulated a link between a quantum event (Radioactive decay) and a macro event (dead Cat).

As Denny correctly pointed out, there are so many variables between the quantum trigger and the killing of the Cat that one can argue they are not truely linked. But that's not the point. The point is that some macro-event *Could* be linked to a quantum event...and that, if factual, opens up a huge Pandora's box of possibilities in thinking about how the Universe works at a quantum and macro level.

The *Cat* was just a way of popularizing this idea in a way that's easy to conceptualize.

Pesse (By the way, I own one irritating Cat I am more than willing to volunteer for this experiment) Mist




Strict "Copenhagenists", those who regard the Copenhagen interpretation of QM as fundamental reality, believe that nothing exists until an observation is made. The cat scenario is an illustration of their point of view. Observation "creates" reality.

-drl


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