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FishInPercolator
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2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ...
      #5849106 - 05/08/13 11:46 PM

hard earned cash? $700 budget. 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos?

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Mike B
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: FishInPercolator]
      #5849110 - 05/08/13 11:52 PM

A used Ethos & good Barlow could net ya, effectively, TWO Ethoi!

I have such an arrangement... a 13E, and actually TWO excellent Barlows- an AP 1.6x Barcon, plus an older UniversityOptics 2" 2x long-fellow... so essentially have three excellent 100* FLs to work with!

13mm..... ~9mm..... ~6mm
All acquired "used" for probably near your budget number.


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SeattleScott
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: Mike B]
      #5849132 - 05/09/13 12:12 AM


two naglers. My eyes cannot take in more than about an 80* fov anyway.


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ThreeD
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: SeattleScott]
      #5849150 - 05/09/13 12:30 AM

How about 3 used Naglers? Not sure what FLs you are looking you should be able to pick up a combo such a 16T5, 11T6, and a 7T6 with that budget.

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kfiscus
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: ThreeD]
      #5849178 - 05/09/13 01:32 AM

Used T6s run $220 shipped. I prefer them to the 13 Ethos I've tried.

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DaveJ
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: SeattleScott]
      #5849518 - 05/09/13 09:03 AM

Quote:


two naglers. My eyes cannot take in more than about an 80* fov anyway.




But there's far more advantage to the Ethos than mere field width. The higher contrast, extra detail and general quality of view are what the advantages of the Ethos are for me. I've directly compared the view through my Ethos and Naglers, matching focal lengths as closely as possible, and definitely see a difference in the favor of the Ethos compared to the Naglers. These comparisons were done using my TEC 140. In my SCTs, not the same level of advantage, but still there.


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csrlice12
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: DaveJ]
      #5849535 - 05/09/13 09:09 AM

e. None of the above.

Used 30mm Pentax XW and the 10XW and a barlow


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BDS316
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: FishInPercolator]
      #5849594 - 05/09/13 09:30 AM

Quote:

hard earned cash? $700 budget. 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos?




With what telescope are you going to be using these ? It may make a difference in the choice.


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FishInPercolator
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: BDS316]
      #5849610 - 05/09/13 09:33 AM

Now I'm leaning toward the EdgeHD 800 again...

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Jeff Morgan
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: DaveJ]
      #5849671 - 05/09/13 10:00 AM

Quote:

Quote:


two naglers. My eyes cannot take in more than about an 80* fov anyway.




But there's far more advantage to the Ethos than mere field width. The higher contrast, extra detail and general quality of view are what the advantages of the Ethos are for me. I've directly compared the view through my Ethos and Naglers, matching focal lengths as closely as possible, and definitely see a difference in the favor of the Ethos compared to the Naglers. These comparisons were done using my TEC 140. In my SCTs, not the same level of advantage, but still there.




I have noted this too.

But if that is the criterion, you can do even better with Delos.


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FishInPercolator
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: Jeff Morgan]
      #5849680 - 05/09/13 10:03 AM

While we are on the topic, I have a Neil Armstrong autograph I might be willing to trade for some pieces...

Edited by FishInPercolator (05/09/13 11:20 AM)


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planet earth
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: FishInPercolator]
      #5849723 - 05/09/13 10:36 AM

Quote:

While we are on the topic, I have a Neil Armstrong autograph I might be willing to trade for some pieces... please refer to my post on the swap board:

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=sseyepiec...




Oh and I thought the topic was 1-Ethos or 2-Naglers.
My mistake, sorry.
Sam


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John Huntley
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: planet earth]
      #5849743 - 05/09/13 10:43 AM

1 Ethos and save for either a 2x Powermate or a 1.6x Antares Barlow.

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FishInPercolator
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: John Huntley]
      #5849751 - 05/09/13 10:48 AM

Why a barlow if one has the powermate?

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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: FishInPercolator]
      #5849829 - 05/09/13 11:19 AM

An Ethos because you'll never stop wondering how the 100 would be if you settled on the 2 Naglers. Have several Naglers myself (5, 9, 12mm) but kept thinking about 100-deg. although not willing to pony up the $$$'s for the Ethos, so when the 100ES14mm came into the picture at a reasonable price, snapped one up. 100-deg is awesome!

Best,


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FishInPercolator
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: planet earth]
      #5849832 - 05/09/13 11:21 AM

You're right...

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ensign
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Loc: Southwestern Ontario
Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: ibase]
      #5849834 - 05/09/13 11:23 AM

The E's are fantastic eyepieces. But I need eye relief. I really like my Nagler Type 4's and my Pentaxes. My vote would be for the Naglers.

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John Huntley
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: FishInPercolator]
      #5849852 - 05/09/13 11:32 AM

Quote:

Why a barlow if one has the powermate?




The Antares 1.6x barlow works very well with the Ethos eyepieces and costs a lot less than a 2x Powermate. So I included it as an option in case the bulk of your $700 went on the Ethos


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FishInPercolator
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: John Huntley]
      #5849855 - 05/09/13 11:35 AM

Gotcha...

I think I want a 21mm Ethos...


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Mike B
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Re: 2 Naglers or 1 Ethos? How would you spend your ... new [Re: FishInPercolator]
      #5850139 - 05/09/13 02:25 PM

Well, there goes yer budget...


You'll be a widefield-only junkie!
Until ya dredge up more payola... more glass awaits.


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