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JimP
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Reged: 04/22/03

Loc: South Carolina
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: Zoomit]
      #5869700 - 05/18/13 04:37 PM

I too have been notified. It should arrive in August. :^)

Jim


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Starhawk
Space Ranger
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Reged: 09/16/08

Loc: Tucson, Arizona
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: JimP]
      #5869720 - 05/18/13 04:50 PM

When did you go on the list? I think the time lapse has caused a lot of people to drop off.

-Rich


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Schaden
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Reged: 06/30/08

Loc: Sonoran Desert
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: Starhawk]
      #5872115 - 05/19/13 06:19 PM

I'm a broke college student but maybe I should get on the list and by the time it's my turn, I will be graduated and probably a few years into my New career. How much of a deposit does AP or Company Seven charge ?

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M13 Observer
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Reged: 12/09/06

Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: Schaden]
      #5872246 - 05/19/13 07:13 PM

Quote:

I'm a broke college student but maybe I should get on the list and by the time it's my turn, I will be graduated and probably a few years into my New career. How much of a deposit does AP or Company Seven charge ?




No deposit until you are notified. Notification has taken about 10 years from the time you put yourself on to the list. In other words, the people getting notified right now put their names on to the list in 2003! Notification means that you are one of the lucky ones to be able to purchase the scope. That takes place about 3-6 months before delivery and will require 1/2 of the total current at the time price to "hold" the scope. The other half will be required just prior to the scope shipping.

Edited by M13 Observer (05/19/13 07:14 PM)


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Schaden
sage


Reged: 06/30/08

Loc: Sonoran Desert
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: M13 Observer]
      #5872518 - 05/19/13 09:22 PM

Wow. What if the scope you wait for goes out of production ? Or
Next closest thing offered ? If it takes that long I want to be on the list, this is a lifelong hobby and I know I will want an AP APO for my ultimate wide field and grab n go. Probably keep this 8" sct for a long time and in the next couple years upgrade my dob light bucket scope to a 14-16 import and refigure the mirror down the line. I could put a little away every year so when the bill comes due for the AP, it won't require much sacrifice if I save for it over that much time, so I know I will be able to take the opportunity. Would love a 175, but the 130 is far more realistic and portable ! So I guess you don't know the actual price you will pay until they notify you ? I imagine inflation alone will add at least 30% in 10 years.


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Paul G
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Reged: 05/08/03

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Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: Schaden]
      #5872614 - 05/19/13 09:51 PM

Quote:

Wow. What if the scope you wait for goes out of production ? Or
Next closest thing offered ? If it takes that long I want to be on the list, this is a lifelong hobby and I know I will want an AP APO for my ultimate wide field and grab n go. Probably keep this 8" sct for a long time and in the next couple years upgrade my dob light bucket scope to a 14-16 import and refigure the mirror down the line. I could put a little away every year so when the bill comes due for the AP, it won't require much sacrifice if I save for it over that much time, so I know I will be able to take the opportunity. Would love a 175, but the 130 is far more realistic and portable ! So I guess you don't know the actual price you will pay until they notify you ? I imagine inflation alone will add at least 30% in 10 years.




It very well may increase in price, the production of high quality optical glass is very energy intensive so glass prices tend to trend upward with energy prices. But the flip side of it is that used AP scopes typically appreciate in value over the new price so if you ever decide to sell it you'll at least get your money back.


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Mike Clemens
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Reged: 11/26/05

Loc: Alaska, USA
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: Paul G]
      #5872697 - 05/19/13 10:24 PM

I imagine inflation alone will add at least 30% in 10 years.

1995 130mm f/6 EDFS w/2.7" focuser = $2995
1999 130mm f/6 EDFS w/2.7" focuser = $3250
2003 130mm f/6 EDFS w/2.7" focuser = $4740
2010 130mm f/6.3 EDFS 2.7" focuser = $5675
2013 130mm f/6.3 EDFS 2.7" focuser = $6275

Looks like 32% for the last 10.


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gnowellsct
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Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: Mike Clemens]
      #5872726 - 05/19/13 10:38 PM

Well of course the thing to do is sign up on the list and get another scope. Mine other scope was the FS128 but I kinda wish I'd gone for a TEC 140. With my luck my name will come up when my kid starts college. I can't remember when I signed up but it was a while ago, that's for sure.

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chaoscosmos
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Reged: 01/26/13

Loc: Mission Viejo CA
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: zawijava]
      #5872873 - 05/19/13 11:58 PM

There's a used AP 130 EDT on the mart, sitting there since yesterday. $5K.

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JimP
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Reged: 04/22/03

Loc: South Carolina
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: Starhawk]
      #5873418 - 05/20/13 10:29 AM

Hi Rich,
I cannot remember when I got on the list it has been so long ago. Is there somewhere we can go to find that info on theb AP website?

Jim


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Mike Clemens
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Reged: 11/26/05

Loc: Alaska, USA
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: JimP]
      #5873472 - 05/20/13 10:57 AM

No.. you need to ask them.

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Sgt
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Reged: 12/17/05

Loc: Under the southern horn of the...
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: Mike Clemens]
      #5873529 - 05/20/13 11:30 AM

When i first signed up they sent me an email confirming joining the wait list. So when I see these threads from time to time I search my inbox in hope to remind myself when I joined. I'm always dissappointed I joined later than I thought I did...

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Zoomit
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Reged: 12/04/06

Loc: Tehachapi, CA
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: Sgt]
      #5874674 - 05/20/13 08:54 PM

For fellow Gmail users, I should mention I found my notification in my Spam folder. I almost deleted it along with all the spam. You don't want to do that...

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johnnyha
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Reged: 11/12/06

Loc: Sherman Oaks, CA
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! [Re: Zoomit]
      #5874697 - 05/20/13 09:06 PM

It's just like the cicadas but slightly more often!

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Hermie
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Reged: 04/20/05

Loc: Cloudy HKG
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: johnnyha]
      #5876311 - 05/21/13 04:48 PM

Schaden,

Dreams are free. Put your name on the list. You don't need to decide until you are notified. But now, your chances are slim because when Roland retires there won't be any more.

Next best/similar? TOA 130,TEC 140, FS128, TV127, APM 130. No particular order, all different, all very good.

Hermie


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JimP
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Reged: 04/22/03

Loc: South Carolina
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: Hermie]
      #5876447 - 05/21/13 05:39 PM

What do you think about 5" aperture?

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Mike Clemens
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Reged: 11/26/05

Loc: Alaska, USA
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: JimP]
      #5876562 - 05/21/13 06:11 PM

> What do you think about 5" aperture?

With a small focal length, FUN for panning the milky way in a pair of bino's with low power widefields.

With a high focal length.... typically enough planetary resolution to leave me wanting.


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JimP
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 04/22/03

Loc: South Carolina
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: Mike Clemens]
      #5876779 - 05/21/13 07:30 PM

I'll add that 5" is very good for perusing double stars. In fact that is where I intend to put my 130 GT to good use (my copies of Pleasures of the Telescope, the 3rd Ed. of Celestial Objects for Common Telescopes and on and on close at hand). Of course I know nothing of wide field deep sky imaging, an area in which it should excel.

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DeanS
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Reged: 07/12/05

Loc: Central Kentucky
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! new [Re: JimP]
      #5876818 - 05/21/13 07:50 PM

I have only been on the list since 12/08 so have many years to save up

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davebuechler
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Reged: 08/21/11

Loc: Red River Gorge Kentucky
Re: AP 130EDF Gran tourismo Notifications have begun! [Re: DeanS]
      #5876862 - 05/21/13 08:20 PM

Having only recently been added to their list, I doubt I will get mine before Roland retires, but I sure hope so!

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