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Mkofski
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LX80 problems to be addressed
      #5880717 - 05/23/13 04:47 PM

I don't know much and can't say much but I've been been told that the problems reported here on CN will be addressed. How and when are still unanswered questions but they will be addressed.

Here in part is what I was told: "Mike, it is okay to let CN users know that the mount problems are being addressed, and I would encourage those users experiencing problems to pass them on to you."

I've been asked to send the "Letter to Meade" and to include any other users that have specific problems. So if you have an LX80 and have a specific issue, PM me and I'll add you to the letter/email that I send.


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JimMo
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: Mkofski]
      #5880746 - 05/23/13 04:58 PM

Hmm. Might be good news for us unpaid "beta" testers. Hopefully a fix for the spring loaded worm gear will be tops on the list. Thanks Mike.

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brokenwave
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: JimMo]
      #5880763 - 05/23/13 05:05 PM

Mike,
I sent you a PM,
Thanks,


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WadeH237
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: JimMo]
      #5880764 - 05/23/13 05:05 PM

If your source is reliable, that sounds like great news!

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Mkofski
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: WadeH237]
      #5880814 - 05/23/13 05:34 PM

Quote:

If your source is reliable, that sounds like great news!




Very reliable.


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Mkofski
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: JimMo]
      #5880821 - 05/23/13 05:37 PM

Quote:

Hmm. Might be good news for us unpaid "beta" testers. Hopefully a fix for the spring loaded worm gear will be tops on the list. Thanks Mike.




Jim,

The impression I got was that there are going to be a lot of changes. I wouldn't expect to get a free new mount or any payment for out Beta testing. How any changes get out to current uses is still a decision to be made down the road a bit.


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herrointment
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: Mkofski]
      #5880835 - 05/23/13 05:44 PM

How about that!

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Goodchild
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: herrointment]
      #5881096 - 05/23/13 08:52 PM

Will Meade ever regain trust in this mount, even after any fixes?

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Mkofski
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: Goodchild]
      #5881149 - 05/23/13 09:23 PM

Quote:

Will Meade ever regain trust in this mount, even after any fixes?




Royce,

I don't see why not. It will take some time but its doable. The LX800 was a bigger disaster but that seems to have been resolved and the current users appear happy. Haven't heard ANY negatives about the LX850 from people actually using them now. I'm sure the LX850 is important to Meade but I was told today that the LX80 is their bread and butter.

Once the problems are resolved who wouldn't want a good mount for less than half the price of a competitive produce that has similar features. I'm sure that there are individuals out there that won't ever buy a Meade mount now no matter what - but they would have to be in the minority.

Keep in mind that Meade should be a much different company in the not too distant future!


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JimMo
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: Mkofski]
      #5881227 - 05/23/13 10:12 PM

A good business model is to take care of the customers you already have. I'm in the market for a new scope to mount on the LX80. If they come through with some fixes, especially the worm spring to stop the bouncing so it can handle more weight, that new telescope will probably be a Meade SCT.

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dmdouglass
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: JimMo]
      #5881274 - 05/23/13 10:43 PM

Hello Mike...

This is most excellant news.
And you are a very BIG part of it.
Well done.


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Mkofski
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: dmdouglass]
      #5881347 - 05/23/13 11:25 PM

Thanks David, but any changes that are coming to the LX80 are because of everyone and the fact that these threads are being monitored.

Mike


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greju
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: Mkofski]
      #5881355 - 05/23/13 11:29 PM

Quote:

Thanks David, but any changes that are coming to the LX80 are because of everyone and the fact that these threads are being monitored.

Mike




Or could it be that there are so many problems with it? As has been said it might now become the LX-85. And with a new price. That is if it is not completely eliminated. New owners just might want to go in a different direction.


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R L Harris
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: greju]
      #5881371 - 05/23/13 11:41 PM

This sounds like good information to me I will watch see!
As it may be several months before I purchase new
scope and mount!


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Mkofski
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: greju]
      #5881384 - 05/23/13 11:48 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Thanks David, but any changes that are coming to the LX80 are because of everyone and the fact that these threads are being monitored.

Mike




Or could it be that there are so many problems with it? As has been said it might now become the LX-85. And with a new price. That is if it is not completely eliminated. New owners just might want to go in a different direction.




I think that any changes to the mount that we see are because it needs it and there are people watching what goes on here. An LX85? Wouldn't surprise me. Free to all current users? I guess that would surprise me.

All I know now is that design changes have already started. It will probably be several weeks before we see anything definite.

If I were in the market today for a combo mount like the LX80 and could wait a few months, the LX80/85 would still be on my watch list. With the nearest competitor being over 2X the price of this mount it could very well be worth the wait.

Meade has mine for repairs now. I'm ancious to see if anything seems different when it returns. Maybe I broke mine a few weeks too early!

Edited by Mkofski (05/23/13 11:56 PM)


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DuiA1
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: Mkofski]
      #5881411 - 05/24/13 12:12 AM

Mike, just saw your post. My new mount is on its way back and I should have it Monday . I have no idea if it has any new improvements. Did they verify if improvements have been made or when they will be made? Anyhow, congrats to us all, I believe we may have made a difference and Meade is listening. They will continue to have my business if they make this right.

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Mkofski
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: DuiA1]
      #5881424 - 05/24/13 12:22 AM

Quote:

Mike, just saw your post. My new mount is on its way back and I should have it Monday . I have no idea if it has any new improvements. Did they verify if improvements have been made or when they will be made? Anyhow, congrats to us all, I believe we may have made a difference and Meade is listening. They will continue to have my business if they make this right.




I don't really know much for sure. I was told that "Design changes are going on now". Still, I'd be surprised if there were any significant changes yet but who knows? Short of taking it apart (I was tempted before I sent mine back) I don't know how we would tell for sure.


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dksolar3294
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: Mkofski]
      #5882067 - 05/24/13 11:34 AM

Mike, The LX80 does not autoguide in Polar mode, at least mine doesn't. So, please add that item to your list of LX80 issues to be addressed.

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DuiA1
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: dksolar3294]
      #5882220 - 05/24/13 12:37 PM

Is it fair to say the issues requiring a fix include:
1. Spring loaded worm gear
2. Plastic gears to metal
3. Tripod Head redesign for improved robustness
4. Autoguiding capability

Anyone care to embellish on this list? Mike can we continue on this vein? Feel free to add delete or expand on the items. Thoughts?


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OzAndrewJ
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Re: LX80 problems to be addressed new [Re: dksolar3294]
      #5882602 - 05/24/13 03:57 PM

"Mike, The LX80 does not autoguide in Polar mode, at least mine doesn't."

This still intrigues me, as i can get the firmware to work with the old and new APM909 lumps, as well as serial controls, and it does respect the commands.
( I am using LX90 motor cards on a test bench tho. )
That said, if you are not polar one star ( or have PEC ON ), DEC guiding in Polar can be "woofy" with A3S4 firmware
as it behaves rather oddly now.

Andrew Johansen Melbourne Australia


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