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dawziecat
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: mikey cee]
      #5960385 - 07/08/13 11:42 AM

I always found the mounts of HUGE professional telescopes astounding. Many tonnes (hundreds?) of machinery and optics moving with such precision. It's amazing! An absolute triump of engineering!

Now, as to those flashy, Italian mounts: Prissy-looking. Mounts for "girly-men!"

(It's just a joke. )

Edited by dawziecat (07/08/13 11:43 AM)


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garret
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: kbastro]
      #5960601 - 07/08/13 01:51 PM

The mount!,100%.

I have a 16 inch ASA Astrograph on a Paramount ME.
The mount: excellent mount with excellent build quality even the inside looks great , very good and complete software package.

The ASA astrograph: for Euro 18000,- pricetag very poor overall quality ; dirty mirror at delivery, loose decoration rings, loose black velvet inside (glued to tight), unstable focusser software, zero information about wiring, handling, cleaning and collimation at delivery, sandwich "carbonfiber" tube: the carbon fiber is paperthin, average mirror quality, incomplete at delivery (no excuse or explanation), the 1.8X Barlow (1150,- euro) has poor internal blackening... I'm very dissatisfied in ASA.

Garret van der Veen, The Netherlands


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dawziecat
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: garret]
      #5960658 - 07/08/13 02:30 PM

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The ASA astrograph: for Euro 18000,- pricetag very poor overall quality ; dirty mirror at delivery, loose decoration rings, loose black velvet inside (glued to tight), unstable focusser software, zero information about wiring, handling, cleaning and collimation at delivery, sandwich "carbonfiber" tube: the carbon fiber is paperthin, average mirror quality, incomplete at delivery (no excuse or explanation), the 1.8X Barlow (1150,- euro) has poor internal blackening...






Wow!!!


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GeneT
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: kbastro]
      #5960757 - 07/08/13 03:41 PM

Scopes excite me. Mounts don't.

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Doug D.
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: mikey cee]
      #5960860 - 07/08/13 04:37 PM

No doubt, I would have said scopes when I started out but after many years now of actually using scopes - I have to say that mounts have become pretty exciting. I am of the opinion that in practice, a given scope is only going to be as good as the mount it rides on.

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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: dawziecat]
      #5960891 - 07/08/13 04:49 PM

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Now, as to those flashy, Italian mounts: Prissy-looking. Mounts for "girly-men!"





the 10micron is quieter and less cables than AP, and its black... astrophotography gone prada.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nGPhbQwwUE

what no polar scope, we don't need no stinkin' polar scope, just run the software.

Edited by Pinbout (07/08/13 05:22 PM)


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David PavlichAdministrator
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: Pinbout]
      #5960977 - 07/08/13 05:48 PM

At the two AIC events I attended, I spent more time talking to the mount guys. I like mechanical stuff and looking at mounts like Planewave's GEM and talking to the designer/builder, I was in mount nirvana!

David


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neilson
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: Pinbout]
      #5961022 - 07/08/13 06:20 PM

Hi,
I like polar scopes. My CGE has ASPA but I just enjoy using them for the fun of it. Except my CGE I bought earlier this year didn't have one so if anyone has a Polar Axis finder for a CGE mount they are willing to sell please let me know. I would like to buy one. It's Celestron part #94222. Please send me a PM or email.
I do like mounts over optics. The more gadgets the better.

Neilson
neilsonshepard@yahoo.com


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StarStuff1
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: neilson]
      #5961056 - 07/08/13 06:52 PM Attachment (10 downloads)

The older I get the more I like simpler mounts that just work. Example is this one for a 4-in f/4 refractor.

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nicklane1
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: kbastro]
      #5961103 - 07/08/13 07:41 PM

Great mounts are similar to fine Swiss watches. So I have to say mounts are more exciting and nicer to look at. But as a visual observer, if I had to choose between a great mount and a great scope, I'd pick the scope.

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SteveC
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: pstarr]
      #5961462 - 07/08/13 11:40 PM

Quote:

Quote:

The scope. I can't see much looking through the mount.




You won't be able to see much trough the scope either if the mount is shaking all around or doesn't have smooth movements. The mount is at least half as important.




Tell me about it, I have enough difficulty holding binoculars steady.

What excites me is when my brain and budget work together, and I actually manage to match scope, mount, and needs.


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Richard McC
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: SteveC]
      #5961718 - 07/09/13 05:44 AM

I appreciate what a good mount can do and the engineering effort that goes into it but the scope is the bit that is more exciting for me. I imagine that my habit of plugging an eyepiece rather than a camera into my scopes biases my answer somewhat.

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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: Richard McC]
      #5961956 - 07/09/13 10:26 AM

I love them both, but if I had to choose between mediocre scope with a good mount or a good scope with a mediocre mount, I would probably go with the good mount and mediocre scope.

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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: EFT]
      #5962176 - 07/09/13 01:15 PM Attachment (9 downloads)

While I love quality machined mounts and hardware, there is something so cool about carbon fiber

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Doug D.
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: EFT]
      #5962302 - 07/09/13 02:32 PM

Quote:

I love them both, but if I had to choose between mediocre scope with a good mount or a good scope with a mediocre mount, I would probably go with the good mount and mediocre scope.




+1.

But only if I had to choose!


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FJA
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: Doug D.]
      #5971780 - 07/15/13 07:48 AM

Scope. But then I use Dobsonians. I don't get on with equatorial mounts...at all.

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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: DeanS]
      #5972004 - 07/15/13 10:54 AM

Quote:

there is something so cool about carbon fiber






it's modern day chain mail...


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RAKing
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: EFT]
      #5972753 - 07/15/13 05:22 PM

Quote:

I love them both, but if I had to choose between mediocre scope with a good mount or a good scope with a mediocre mount, I would probably go with the good mount and mediocre scope.




+1

I have always considered the mount to be the most important part of the system -- but my Dob mounts do not excite me at all. They are solid and functional -- nothing sexy or artistic about them.

My Mach 1 on the other hand, is both sexy and artistic - as well as being solid and functional.

Cheers,

Ron


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samovu
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? [Re: RAKing]
      #5993869 - 07/27/13 11:13 PM

Right now I must admit that I'm most excited about mounts. Just last night I was able to control my newly acquired, used mount for the first time after installing SkySafari on my iPad and hooking up the wireless SkiFi adapter to the RS232 connector (input). After listening to the mount follow whatever object I chose "in the sky", I called my wife over to show her how "way cool" that was. This was all in our living room and sans scope.

Her response was "isn't that like cheating?" Bless her heart. She hasn't asked me how much all of this cost.

Clear skies to all!


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tclehman1969
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Re: what excites you more? mount or scope? new [Re: kbastro]
      #5995890 - 07/29/13 01:38 AM

Wow, this is a tough question...kind of like asking a man which excites him more, his wife or his girlfriend! I have neither, so I can get away with comments like that!

As many have said, can't use a good scope on a bouncy mount, and similarly, you can't enjoy the skies without a good scope. But, I guess for me, today, the scope is what excites me most. Even though it is an older C8, I really enjoy it.


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