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Jon_Doh
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Reged: 09/16/11

Loc: On a receiver's back
Re: Still Can't See the Veil new [Re: Kraus]
      #6103800 - 09/27/13 10:01 AM

I don't think I'd move to North Korea just to get black skies

I use an OIII filter and it really makes a difference. Some nights I can see nebulae just fine without it and others it really makes them pop. It's handy to have one in the bag for those times when it's needed.


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curiosidad
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Reged: 06/09/11

Re: Still Can't See the Veil new [Re: Jon_Doh]
      #6104284 - 09/27/13 01:48 PM

Hello,
I can see the Veil Nebula with UHC filters pretty well, like North America nebula, but .. I look better with the OIII filters?
A greeting


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Kraus
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 03/10/12

Loc: Georgia.
Re: Still Can't See the Veil new [Re: curiosidad]
      #6105464 - 09/28/13 08:25 AM


Oh my folks. My Georgia skies even let in the Milky Way. Not real bright but it was there.

And the Veil once again, took all my attention. An OIII in my 31mm NAgler, I started at the north end of the the finger, slew south, east then back up north to the top edge of the east loop.

And Pickering's Triangle showed itself.

I shall assign myself as Keeper of the Veil. You may direct your questions to me.


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TechPan6415
sage
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Reged: 07/29/12

Loc: Aspen, Co
Re: Still Can't See the Veil new [Re: Kraus]
      #6113462 - 10/02/13 04:12 PM

Saw it last night easily with my little 5" F5 with a ES 24mm 68 degree and a Lumicon O-III filter, but I have insanely dark and often very transparent, high elevation skies.

So needless to say when I plugged my ES 25mm 100 degree EP in my 16" 4.5 scope with my 2" O-III filter....it looked like a freaking photograph, my wife and I both about flipped, the detail and nuance of it was breathtaking.

It's all about dark skies for me, it makes all the difference in the world.


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Kraus
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 03/10/12

Loc: Georgia.
Re: Still Can't See the Veil new [Re: TechPan6415]
      #6113727 - 10/02/13 06:31 PM


Picture perfect is everyone's desire. You're making many folks envious, except me. I'm seething. Good job!

I aim to be up at 3:00a.m. to spy the Horse Head nebula. Are you going to out do me...again?


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Philler
sage


Reged: 07/15/13

Loc: Kansas, USA
Re: Still Can't See the Veil new [Re: Kraus]
      #6176316 - 11/04/13 09:24 PM

Saw the Veil Neb. the other night at my club's blue site in 8 x 42 binos., just two faint streaks. But in my 10" scope at 47X plus neb. filter, Veil is impressive. But when I go over to the the NA and Pelican all I have ever been able to get is faint puffs. Never been able to make out the Gulf of Mexico in NA in either scope or binoculars.

Edited by Philler (11/04/13 09:32 PM)


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Kraus
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 03/10/12

Loc: Georgia.
Re: Still Can't See the Veil new [Re: Philler]
      #6176814 - 11/05/13 05:50 AM


Have you caught your breath yet Philler? The Veil does that to folks.

The North America nebula is quite the task. I zero in on NGC-6997, an open cluster as my starting point. I steer southwards to a little knot with three stars in a short line. According to pictures, it's the gulf.

Like many, I wish I had much, much, much better skies.


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Philler
sage


Reged: 07/15/13

Loc: Kansas, USA
Re: Still Can't See the Veil new [Re: Kraus]
      #6178403 - 11/05/13 11:31 PM

Quote:


Have you caught your breath yet Philler? The Veil does that to folks.

The North America nebula is quite the task. I zero in on NGC-6997, an open cluster as my starting point. I steer southwards to a little knot with three stars in a short line. According to pictures, it's the gulf.

Like many, I wish I had much, much, much better skies. [/quote




The first time I saw the Veil Neb. almost 20 years ago was when my jaw almost dropped. I used my 10 in. at low power with a neb filter. I spent enough time enjoying it that it will always be fixed in my mind, but I probably should have at least drawn a picture of it.
I'll keep on working on the NA neb.

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jrbarnett
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Reged: 02/28/06

Loc: Petaluma, CA
Re: Still Can't See the Veil new [Re: REC]
      #6180240 - 11/07/13 12:19 AM

One word.

"OIII"

LPRs and UHCs don't even come close on this target, IMO.

- Jim


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nicknacknock
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Reged: 02/20/12

Loc: In a galaxy far far away...
Re: Still Can't See the Veil new [Re: jrbarnett]
      #6180447 - 11/07/13 07:32 AM

I guess I shouldn't complain. 4 spots all within a 50 minute drive with SQM readings between 21.2 - 21.5.

Made short work of the Veil, North American and Pelican, California and Heart and Soul Nebulae 10 nights ago.

OK, California and Heart and Soul were there but they were faint targets. But still, it was with a 80mm refractor...

I used O III and Hb filters, Nagler 31mm and my Stellarvue SV80ST.

Veil was easily visible without a filter. But detail just pops out once you add that O III in the mix.


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Sarkikos
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Reged: 12/18/07

Loc: Scotophobe Maryland, USA
Re: Still Can't See the Veil new [Re: REC]
      #6184193 - 11/09/13 08:23 AM

Quote:

Hi, I live in a red zone. Last night I could just barely make out the constellation Corona which I use as a guide as to how faint I can see. The last star in the "C" is mag.5 and I could just barley see it. It is straight overhead and all of the Hercules keystone. I was looking ay M13 as well last night.

Perhaps I need for it to get a little higher in the sky to try again. I think I will try it again in my 9x63 Bino's and put the filter on the front of one of the lenses? Otherwise I'm going to use my 10" Dob tonight if it stays clear




Your best bet is to find a darker site. I live in a red zone. I travel 50 miles to a yellow zone to observe. It's the nearest site where I can see many, many more objects than I could ever see if I stayed home. I'd rather travel an hour to a yellow zone, than six hours to a gray zone!

The Veil is very easy with an OIII filter in a yellow zone, whether I'm using a 3", 6" or 10" telescope.

Mike


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Sarkikos
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Reged: 12/18/07

Loc: Scotophobe Maryland, USA
Re: Still Can't See the Veil new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #6184204 - 11/09/13 08:34 AM

I think my dark site might be between a yellow zone and green zone, because another observer with an SQM meter got readings of a little over 21.

Mike


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