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hokkaido53
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Corona Borealis Galaxy CLuster new
      #6089122 - 09/18/13 11:11 PM

I first learned of this cluster - over a billion light years away - from Peter Birren's "Objects in the Heavens" field guide. It is composed of up to 400 galaxies, the brightest being 16th magnitude.

The co-ordinates are: 15h 20.5m, +27 deg. 50m.

A photo of this cluster appears in Burnham's Celestial Handbook, vol.2.

I would be interested in hearing from anyone else who has observed this amazing formation of galaxies.

Thanks,

Roy in Taos.


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hbanich
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Re: Corona Borealis Galaxy CLuster new [Re: hokkaido53]
      #6089299 - 09/19/13 01:20 AM

AGC 2065 is the very definition of "lumpy darkness". There are so many galaxies here just faint enough that with direct vision the sky looks lumpy with my 28 inch f4.

The brighter galaxies are in the ~16.5 magnitude range and are clustered around a couple of field stars just bright enough to be annoying but not so bright as to prevent seeing some of the brighter galaxies in this distant cluster.

I observed this group just a week and half ago under 21.35 SQM skies and had a pretty good view. It fell short of the view I had in August under 21.85 skies, but I expected that. What surprised me was that I could still see about half the galaxies I saw under the darker sky so I'm glad I gave it a shot.

I found using an eyepiece producing a 2mm exit pupil worked best, which in my case was an 8mm Ethos. Try a bunch of magnifications to see what works best for you though, you never really know until you try. For what it's worth, I had a tough time seeing even a couple of these galaxies with my old 20 inch years ago but looking back I didn't use enough magnification.

This is a great galaxy cluster and I hope you get a great view. It's sinking pretty low in the west now so you're best bet is to wait until spring, but with a great night you could get a good view during the next new moon cycle. Good luck!


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hokkaido53
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Re: Corona Borealis Galaxy CLuster new [Re: hbanich]
      #6089639 - 09/19/13 10:04 AM

Thanks, Howard. I used the 12mm Nagler EP and saw the "lumpy" area within the the stars. The skies can be quite clear where I am in northern New Mexico, but then the heavy rains came, along with a full moon, all of which curtailed my observing for a while. I will probably need to wait until next spring for another view.

- Roy in Taos


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george golitzin
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Re: Corona Borealis Galaxy CLuster new [Re: hokkaido53]
      #6090317 - 09/19/13 05:02 PM

Hi Roy--

I was barely able to discern several members of AGC 2065 in my old 16-inch under mag 6 skies. With mag 7 skies and an 18-inch it was a bit easier to navigate the cluster. Howard has a lot more experience than I do at this, but I think in your case a 2mm exit pupil might yield insufficient power (although everyone has different responses to power and exit pupil...). Assuming your 18-inch is f/4.5, a 2 mm exit pupil corresponds to about 230X, while in Howard's 28-inch f/4, it's 355X. Of the two, I think power is the more important variable here: I would recommend using powers near 300X and above. Make sure you have a good photo to work from, such as Alvin Huey's or Steve Gottlieb's.
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbarchive/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2374749/Main...
http://www.astronomy-mall.com/Adventures.In.Deep.Space/agc2065.htm

-george


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azure1961p
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Re: Corona Borealis Galaxy CLuster [Re: george golitzin]
      #6090646 - 09/19/13 09:12 PM

Steve is an institution!

Pete


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Bill Weir
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Re: Corona Borealis Galaxy CLuster new [Re: azure1961p]
      #6090947 - 09/20/13 12:57 AM

"Lumpy Darkness" is a very good definition Howard. Similar wording is what I use when trying to guide people into seeing it. Last year a friend was working on this observation for a deep sky challenge list he was working on. He was sure he had the correct field with his 15" and asked me to confirm the FOV. Knowing what I was looking for it only took me a few seconds at the eyepiece to say, "yup and they are all over the FOV". He couldn't see it at all so I sent him over to my 20" and advised him to look for a general unevenness to the area and then start looking for the tiny brighter nuggets. Once he had success with my scope and returned to his scope he was able to get the cluster with the 15". This was from a site with SQM 21.75

The best I've had with my scope using an image to guide me where to look was 18 direct galaxy sightings.

Bill


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Steven Aggas
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Re: Corona Borealis Galaxy CLuster new [Re: Bill Weir]
      #6093634 - 09/21/13 03:20 PM

That was the First Light object of my 36"f4.5, phenominal view in northern Arizona, 6800' elevation with SQM 21.85. To count them properly I'd of needed a photograph to check them off.

Steven


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uwe_glahn
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Re: Corona Borealis Galaxy CLuster new [Re: hokkaido53]
      #6094511 - 09/22/13 04:00 AM

Roy,

it was always tough for my 16" to pick up some galaxies within the cluster, a friend of mine uses the cluster with his 16" to test the sky quality. When I remember right he speaks about 5-6 galaxies in the center.

With my 27" under good conditions I could pick up 28 galaxies in the center 8'x8' field. It was a still tough an needs at least 3h of observing time to observe and sketch all for me possible galaxies.


inverted version

Johannes Brachtendorf could pick up also around 20 galaxies with his 25". You have to scroll down a look in his map with the marked galaxies.


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davidpitre
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Re: Corona Borealis Galaxy CLuster new [Re: uwe_glahn]
      #6095068 - 09/22/13 01:28 PM

Fantastic sketch Uwe

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hokkaido53
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Re: Corona Borealis Galaxy CLuster new [Re: uwe_glahn]
      #6099877 - 09/25/13 08:00 AM

Nice sketch, Uwe, The skies are clear again here, and I was able to observe the cluster a few more times... before the moon rose.

Roy in Taos


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Ptarmigan
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Re: Corona Borealis Galaxy CLuster new [Re: uwe_glahn]
      #6112140 - 10/01/13 10:34 PM

Nice sketch of Abell 2065. It is one of the most distant galaxy clusters visible through a telescope visually. Abell 2065 has 400 galaxies and makes me wonder if these galaxies have life on those planets and perhaps they are like Star Wars galaxy.

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