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Louietheflyisme
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What can I expect from Lovejoy?
      #6185910 - 11/10/13 03:43 AM

Another one of these posts from me. If I were to get up tomorrow morning and get out my 7x50s and observe from my red zone, what would be the chances of me seeing Lovejoy, and how bright would it look? I know it's about mag 6 but it's fairly diffuse from what I can tell. I just want to know because, whilst the hunt is all part of the hobby, I have no particular desire to get up at 3 in the morning just to find that I can't in fact see anything .

Thanks,

Louis


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rnc39560
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: Louietheflyisme]
      #6186070 - 11/10/13 08:15 AM

Lol! I LOVE the bluntness of the last sentence! I can soo relate your feelings!

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rnc39560
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: rnc39560]
      #6186075 - 11/10/13 08:20 AM

Also, your sketches look great! Congrats on the contest!

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BrooksObs
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: rnc39560]
      #6186096 - 11/10/13 08:45 AM

To be very honest, looking at comets from a "Red Zone" using only very modest instrumentation is little short of a waste of the observer's time.

From the location implied by your avatar it should be relatively easy (compared with most Americans) to escape much of the light pollution by a short drive. Beyond doing that, I wouldn't bother getting out of bed at 3a.m. for Comet Lovejoy.

BrooksObs


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waso29
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: BrooksObs]
      #6186472 - 11/10/13 12:18 PM

This morning from Chicago lakefront, I was able to clearly see comet lovejoy as fuzzy patch thru buddies 15x70. Barely visible thru my 8x30. We were able to see bright core thru C11.

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Seldom
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: waso29]
      #6187250 - 11/10/13 06:10 PM

At 3:30 this morning from a dark green zone (21.4 mpsas) it was easy to find using quality 15x50s. Also found it using some department store 7x50s. From a dark green sky it's about as big as M42, but maybe half as bright. I imagine it's smaller from a red zone, but I have no desire to find out for myself.

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Louietheflyisme
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: rnc39560]
      #6187948 - 11/11/13 02:54 AM

Quote:

Also, your sketches look great! Congrats on the contest!




Thanks... and yeah-no real desire to wake up at 3 in the morning...


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Louietheflyisme
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: Louietheflyisme]
      #6187952 - 11/11/13 02:59 AM

So basically I shouldn't bother getting up to find it? I can usually see mag 7 stars fairly easy through my binos without being fully dark adapted. Tell me if otherwise.

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T1R2
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: Louietheflyisme]
      #6187986 - 11/11/13 04:08 AM

I just had a look at Lovejoy off the nose of Leo, and it resembled the glog. cluster M15 through the AR127 at 41x, not bad though, it will get better

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rnc39560
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: T1R2]
      #6188008 - 11/11/13 04:51 AM

I just came in and couldn't find it. However, its close to the light dome from town.

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Louietheflyisme
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: rnc39560]
      #6188032 - 11/11/13 06:26 AM

I might get up earlier one of the mornings I have to get up early anyway and have a look.

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RonUwood
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: Louietheflyisme]
      #6188056 - 11/11/13 06:59 AM

My wife and I saw it very easily from our yellow zone backyard in NC this morning at 3:30am. We first located it with 10x40 binocs, then with our ST-120 refractor with 25 mm ep. Like posted earlier it looked much like globular cluster with a very diffuse tail. Sky was very clear and transparent. Nearby M-44 was easily discernible naked eye with direct vision.

Ron


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Tony Flanders
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: Louietheflyisme]
      #6188062 - 11/11/13 07:03 AM

Quote:

So basically I shouldn't bother getting up to find it? I can usually see mag 7 stars fairly easy through my binos without being fully dark adapted.




I should hope so!

The logistics for observing Comet Lovejoy from Australia are pretty poor; it's well north of the celestial equator and moving north fairly rapidly.

I'd say it's worth a look if and only if you can see M44 easily without optical aid.


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WesC
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: Tony Flanders]
      #6188616 - 11/11/13 01:21 PM

I had my C11 Edge set up the other night and was so enthralled with M42 and Jupiter that I totally forgot to look for it! Doh!

I'll try to see if I can catch it this week, although the LA Light Dome of Doom is pretty strong in that direction.


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Louietheflyisme
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: WesC]
      #6188885 - 11/11/13 03:45 PM

I think I might get up and have a look. If I can't see it, I might be able to get my telescope in a place where I can see it. Unfortunately, there's a lot f trees to the north, but I'll try.

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Dave Mitsky
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: Louietheflyisme]
      #6189148 - 11/11/13 06:00 PM

I observed Comet Lovejoy on Sunday (Celestron 10x50s) and Monday (Celestron 10x50s and Burgess Optical 15x70s) mornings from my red zone backyard. The comet was quite prominent through the 15x70s this morning.

Dave Mitsky


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Jon Isaacs
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #6190028 - 11/12/13 06:04 AM

From my red zone backyard, I saw Lovejoy Sunday Night in a number of scopes and binoculars. I consider it easily seen in 10x50s. By comparison, a week ago, I could not see Ison in my 10x50s from a Blue Zone.

Jon


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RussL
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #6190645 - 11/12/13 12:55 PM

Saw it in 10x50s this past Saturday, the 9th, around 4am from a yellow zone. Then, caught it in my red zone back home, also in 10x50s Sunday morn around 4am. It looked real good from the yellow zone and a bit dimmer from the red zone. Couldn't find it this morn around 6am from the red zone, though. Might've looked in the wrong place. Also couldn't find ISON either. Anyway, it's worth getting up for, IMO.

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kfiscus
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: RussL]
      #6191494 - 11/12/13 08:04 PM

Finally got a good forecast and observing chance this AM. Lovejoy was VERY easy to see in my 50mm finder. Nice oval coma and widening tail were visible in the main scope. The oval, very pale green? coma were visible in the finder.

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Louietheflyisme
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Re: What can I expect from Lovejoy? new [Re: kfiscus]
      #6195964 - 11/15/13 05:29 AM

Right. I'm going to get up at 3:45 tomorrow morning (ughh... so early) and get up on my roof where it should be in prime position. However, can anyone tell me whether your eyes are fully adjusted to the darkness after 8 hours of full darkness sleep? That's what I'd assume, and that'd be good, but I'm not really sure. Can anyone tell me? So yeah... I'm going to get up at 3:45 tomorrow! YAY! And then tomorrow is completely chock full with stuff and a bedtime of at least 11:00... although, on the bright side I'll probably go back to sleep for another 5 hours after I get up and have a look.

So overall, can anyone tell me how dark adapted my eyes should be when I wake up?

Thanks,

Louis


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